Donald Trump Jr emails show Russia communication

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YADA said:
You have not herd about the golden showers dossier … McCain sent a person to get it … only after getting it and reading it did he contact Comey - not before like people are saying Trump Jr should have done …

And supposedly Jeb offered money for it - or initiated obtaining it …

I am not sure we really know …

We are learning that this Russian Attorney is tied to Fusion GPS - who created this Golden Showers Dossier …

She - this same Russian Attorney - also was forced from USA and not allowed to re-enter the Country - but somehow was allowed in just before this meeting with Trump Jr and then met with Obama Ambassador - Why? …

I am not a conspiracy fan … but there are more connections here than we really know …

It seems like the meeting was a fizzle for Trump camp . … unsolicited - unremarkable … no after meeting use or follow-up …

While there is much participation, action, documents, intel and leaks to media on the other side …

Really - that does not cause any ‘questions’ for those who want to make so much of this email chain instigated from an outside Trump camp …

And now we are learning this Russian Attorney had ties to McCain … and that she supposedly attended anti Trump rallies … this Russian Attorney was a guest of the Obama Ambassador to congressional hearings?

This person who was not supposed to be in the Country but was let in by the Obama Administration -
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They won’t like any of these facts.
 
josie_L said:
Disregarding what was said about Vouthon (he’s a good guy), these are my sentiments exactly!! 👍
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Oh no. I like Vouthon too. But let’s get some perspective here. There isn’t a person here on CAF who wouldn’t have accepted information proving that Clinton (or Tillerson for that matter, for the left) had sold out to a foreign government, and regardless of the source.

Indeed, I like Tillerson, but if somebody told me he had definitive proof that Tillerson was suborned, I would want the information and, like Trump Jr, said, if it looked real, I would go to the authorities with it. I would also make it public unless I was instructed not to do so.

And my reference to Vouthon was only to demonstrate how easy it can be to project a damaging image on someone by adding suggestions to the picture when suspicions are running wild, no matter how preposterous the image might be.
 
Jig_Saw said:
You don’t know me, so I would appreciate that you wouldn’t make assumptions about me and I don’t appreciate that you would suggest that I would commit a felony for political gain.
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It wouldn’t be a felony. It would be your duty as a loyal American citizen. I apologize if I made any incorrect assumptions about you.
 
YADA said:
You have not herd about the golden showers dossier … McCain sent a person to get it … only after getting it and reading it did he contact Comey - not before like people are saying Trump Jr should have done …
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Ah, yes, the pee story. That’s very different. McCain was acting in his capacity as a Senator, not a candidate. Don’t try to conflate the two. As to Jeb Bush, I hadn’t heard that, and you don’t appear to have much to back it up, but if he did that, then…he was wrong. No argument there.
 
Possible Facebook page of Russian lawyer.
Disclaimer : of course I cannot be sure this is the actual facebook page of the Russian lawyer but her timeline does go back many years which I assume is not so easy to forge on facebook.
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Her photo pages do show pictures from the anti-Trump Women’s march demonstration. There are anti Trump and anti Putin posts also.

Please don’t leave a message if you are on Facebook as it looks like there is stating to be very many abusive posts directed to her and if it is genuine, then of course we don’t want to add to that. - Thanks.
Again as a disclaimer I of course cannot verify the validity of this account although it does look at face value to possibly be genuine
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Also not sure how valid this is but it would make an interesting movie.
 
jtauke said:
What pray tell, were you implying?
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There are other things to be doing instead of swallowing the news from CNN and MSNBC 24 hours a day. Maybe the public library is hiring too. Does that make it better? Or Wal-Mart or the local movie theatre?
 
7_Sorrows said:
There are other things to be doing instead of swallowing the news from CNN and MSNBC 24 hours a day. Maybe the public library is hiring too. Does that make it better? Or Wal-Mart or the local movie theatre?
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A) I don’t think that’s what you were implying, but nevermind.
B) Wasn’t it you that was saying that you’re retired now so you can consume right-wing media and talk radio 24/7? Physician, heal thyself.
 
jtauke said:
It’s very clear that Junior though he was meeting with an agent of the Russian government. It’s not relevant that fact was misrepresented. What’s relevant is Junior’s intent to meet with a foreign agent to get info on Clinton.

From: Rob Goldstone

From: Rob Goldstone
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So is this illegal? If it is shouldn’t the trial get started on Ted Kennedy when he did the exact same thing?

Oh wait Ted is Dead!
 
ProdigalSun said:
So is this illegal? If it is shouldn’t the trial get started on Ted Kennedy when he did the exact same thing?

Oh wait Ted is Dead!
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I really don’t get why so many of you Trump guys think I, or others, would defend anyone doing this…

If Jeb did it…prosecute him
If Mccain did it…prosecute him
If Clinton did it…prosecute her

The law applies to all.
 
BoomBoomMancini said:
A) I don’t think that’s what you were implying, but nevermind.
B) Wasn’t it you that was saying that you’re retired now so you can consume right-wing media and talk radio 24/7? Physician, heal thyself.
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Yes, but my life is moving forward. I am not stuck in trying to destroy a sitting president. All the liberals since Hillary lost are stuck because they can’t accept Trump won so all their energy is being consumed by getting rid of the guy who beat
their woman in the election. Every breaking news story on CNN or MSNBC throws them into a frenzy -“We got him! We finally have the smoking gun! This is it!”
The news anchors on CNN and MSNBC are smirking and salivating. This is all very
unhealthy.
Once again I say, we have more to fear from the democrat party in this country than
Putin.
 
7_Sorrows said:
Yes, but my life is moving forward. I am not stuck in trying to destroy a sitting president. All the liberals since Hillary lost are stuck because they can’t accept Trump won so all their energy is being consumed by getting rid of the guy who beat
their woman in the election. Every breaking news story on CNN or MSNBC throws them into a frenzy -“We got him! We finally have the smoking gun! This is it!”
The news anchors on CNN and MSNBC are smirking and salivating. This is all very
unhealthy.
Once again I say, we have more to fear from the democrat party in this country than
Putin.
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Yeah, the tea party was known for accepting that Obama was president…LOL

At least admit that this ridiculous partisanship through each side.

While those in the middle are just alienated.
 
7_Sorrows said:
Yes, but my life is moving forward. I am not stuck in trying to destroy a sitting president. All the liberals since Hillary lost are stuck because they can’t accept Trump won so all their energy is being consumed by getting rid of the guy who beat
their woman in the election. Every breaking news story on CNN or MSNBC throws them into a frenzy -“We got him! We finally have the smoking gun! This is it!”
The news anchors on CNN and MSNBC are smirking and salivating. This is all very
unhealthy.
Once again I say, we have more to fear from the democrat party in this country than
Putin.
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Personally, my greatest fear is that Americans will never know the difference between an adjective and a noun.
 
jtauke said:
I really don’t get why so many of you Trump guys think I, or others, would defend anyone doing this…

If Jeb did it…prosecute him
If Mccain did it…prosecute him
If Clinton did it…prosecute her

The law applies to all.
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THat is not the answer to my question. What Law was broken?
 
BoomBoomMancini said:
Ah, yes, the pee story. That’s very different. McCain was acting in his capacity as a Senator, not a candidate. Don’t try to conflate the two. As to Jeb Bush, I hadn’t heard that, and you don’t appear to have much to back it up, but if he did that, then…he was wrong. No argument there.
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Fusion GPS was paid by Clinton supporters to get the anti- Trump information that was collected and then written into the dossier by a Brit who has stated that his sources were Russian Government agents - The last I knew - Russians and Brits are no Americans but foreigners … thus The CLINTON campaign actually set out to contact a foreign government to obtain data which was used to influence the 2016 Election …

The CIA and the FBI both stated this paid for by Democratic operatives Dossier formed the basis of their investigation of Trump Campaign collusion … which the Media has promoted and insinuated Trump was a target of … I would classify that as an attempt to derail the campaign and the presidency of Trump …

And all of the illegal leaks to the press are jeopardizing our national security … let alone being illegal … does that not cause you concern?

This attorney is said to have ties to Fusion GPS - who was paid by Democrats and even the FBI offered the Brit guy $50k to keep digging …

Really … with those real actions - this meeting set up and attended by Trump Jr - where he did not initiate the meeting nor accept any information [or even discuss any information] regarding Hillary - good, bad or indifferent … is shear craziness … and while you may not have said Treasonous - there are posters here and media personalities that have made that exact charge …

And why was someone close to the Obama Ambassador - his guest … wanting a meeting with Trump camp? Especially one who was not supposed to be in the Country but somehow got in …

Those are questions I believe need to be answered
 
YADA said:
Fusion GPS was paid by Clinton supporters to get the anti- Trump information that was collected and then written into the dossier by a Brit who has stated that his sources were Russian Government agents - The last I knew - Russians and Brits are no Americans but foreigners … thus The CLINTON campaign actually set out to contact a foreign government to obtain data which was used to influence the 2016 Election …

The CIA and the FBI both stated this paid for by Democratic operatives Dossier formed the basis of their investigation of Trump Campaign collusion … which the Media has promoted and insinuated Trump was a target of … I would classify that as an attempt to derail the campaign and the presidency of Trump …

And all of the illegal leaks to the press are jeopardizing our national security … let alone being illegal … does that not cause you concern?

This attorney is said to have ties to Fusion GPS - who was paid by Democrats and even the FBI offered the Brit guy $50k to keep digging …

Really … with those real actions - this meeting set up and attended by Trump Jr - where he did not initiate the meeting nor accept any information [or even discuss any information] regarding Hillary - good, bad or indifferent … is shear craziness … and while you may not have said Treasonous - there are posters here and media personalities that have made that exact charge …

And why was someone close to the Obama Ambassador - his guest … wanting a meeting with Trump camp? Especially one who was not supposed to be in the Country but somehow got in …

Those are questions I believe need to be answered
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And these are facts and questions they won’t be hearing about on CNN or MSNBC!
 
YADA said:
Fusion GPS was paid by Clinton supporters to get the anti- Trump information that was collected and then written into the dossier by a Brit who has stated that his sources were Russian Government agents - The last I knew - Russians and Brits are no Americans but foreigners … thus The CLINTON campaign actually set out to contact a foreign government to obtain data which was used to influence the 2016 Election …

The CIA and the FBI both stated this paid for by Democratic operatives Dossier formed the basis of their investigation of Trump Campaign collusion … which the Media has promoted and insinuated Trump was a target of … I would classify that as an attempt to derail the campaign and the presidency of Trump …

And all of the illegal leaks to the press are jeopardizing our national security … let alone being illegal … does that not cause you concern?

This attorney is said to have ties to Fusion GPS - who was paid by Democrats and even the FBI offered the Brit guy $50k to keep digging …

Really … with those real actions - this meeting set up and attended by Trump Jr - where he did not initiate the meeting nor accept any information [or even discuss any information] regarding Hillary - good, bad or indifferent … is shear craziness … and while you may not have said Treasonous - there are posters here and media personalities that have made that exact charge …

And why was someone close to the Obama Ambassador - his guest … wanting a meeting with Trump camp? Especially one who was not supposed to be in the Country but somehow got in …

Those are questions I believe need to be answered
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Junior has been lying for days. He only released his emails minutes before the NYTdid. Why would we believe that the meeting was a nothingburger. He lied.
 
ProdigalSun said:
THat is not the answer to my question. What Law was broken?
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The Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) prohibits any foreign national from contributing, donating or spending funds in connection with any federal, state, or local election in the United States, either directly or indirectly. It is also unlawful to help foreign nationals violate that ban or to solicit, receive or accept contributions or donations from them. Persons who knowingly and willfully engage in these activities may be subject to fines and/or imprisonment.

transition.fec.gov/pages/brochures/foreign.shtml#Prohibition
 
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