Donald Trump leads Walker, Bush in Fox national poll

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Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million 30 years or so ago. Big difference with at least 11 million.

Rubio admits, giving amnesty 30 years ago was an error.

dailycaller.com/2013/06/28/flashback-2009-rubio-says-reagan-made-a-mistake-with-1986-amnesty/

Let’s see, Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million, now we are talking about at least 11 million here. Doesn’t sound like that worked out to great and

Reagan’s Red California is now a Blue California. How’s that working? Bills for home abortion in the legislature anyone?
You are the one trying to say that Trump is like Reagan. Not me. Also I don’t think Rubio is on board with the mass deportations either.
 
“Direct speech” is not the same thing as espousing responsible good policy; it is not a good thing when these two things are just assumed to be the same thing. All Mexican immigrants are violent criminals. Women labelled as animals and disgusting. Megyn Kelly is a bimbo who should be replaced. How is this celebration of “direct speech” good for anyone? Authentic?
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In my opinion this is not the speech of someone who should be president.
there are other good, anti-immigration, or tough on immigration candidates out there I who are much better ,such as Ted Cruz, or Scott Walker.
I like Marco Rubio.
 
In my opinion this is not the speech of someone who should be president.
there are other good, anti-immigration, or tough on immigration candidates out there I who are much better ,such as Ted Cruz, or Scott Walker.
Yes. And the fact that we are even considering a person who talks and acts like this for the White House is shocking.
 
Your point? Obama met with Rick Warren. 😃 And will meet the Pope soon.
The point is - will Mr. Trump also meet with the US Catholic Bishops???
Since this thread is about the upcoming election, President Obama is not running for a third term.

God Bless and Peace to all.
 
You are the one trying to say that Trump is like Reagan. Not me. Also I don’t think Rubio is on board with the mass deportations either.
They both love America, that much is so and wished to make America great.
Also I don’t think Rubio is on board with the mass deportations either.
There should not be a reason to dismiss the rule of law, what should be done per Christie is secure the border and then, talk about how the 11 or 30 million here are handled.

Jean Valjean stole a loaf of bread, he deserved to be held accountable for that but compassion should have been shown to him.

Overloading the justice system helps no one.

These court hearings too, people should remember, often see those scheduled to appear not even show up; perhaps up to 90% of those, hence, that is due process.
 
They both love America, that much is so and wished to make America great.

There should not be a reason to dismiss the rule of law, what should be done per Christie is secure the border and then, talk about how the 11 or 30 million here are handled.

Jean Valjean stole a loaf of bread, he deserved to be held accountable for that but compassion should have been shown to him.

Overloading the justice system helps no one.

These court hearings too, people should remember, often see those scheduled to appear not even show up; perhaps up to 90% of those, hence, that is due process.
I think there is one thing in this world that I agree with you on PathFinder, and that is that Chris Christie is a good candidate. He is not on board with mass deportations either. I support Christie.
 
“Direct speech” is not the same thing as espousing responsible good policy; it is not a good thing when these two things are just assumed to be the same thing. All Mexican immigrants are violent criminals. Women labelled as animals and disgusting. Megyn Kelly is a bimbo who should be replaced. How is this celebration of “direct speech” good for anyone? Authentic?

Agreed he is the only candidate on either side not in the hands of rich donors. However, he is I think a little more unprincipled that many others in the GOP and even some on the left. :o (excepting Hillary)

Sorry for the slur of insinuating that you were a Democrat.
Trump did not say all Mexican immigrants are violent criminals. A false statement.

These other comments too may well be of more comments taken out of context.

Immigration is hurting the US and Trump sees this and no one would be talking about it at least in the volume it is being spoken about if not for Trump.
 
Yes. And the fact that we are even considering a person who talks and acts like this for the White House is shocking.
I wish I was shocked as well. However, nothing shocks me anymore given that Obama was elected twice.

It should amaze me that people are considering Trump a serious presidential candidate.

The mainstream media runs this country. They are the ones who will elect the next president.
 
In my opinion this is not the speech of someone who should be president.
there are other good, anti-immigration, or tough on immigration candidates out there I who are much better ,such as Ted Cruz, or Scott Walker.
I like Marco Rubio.
And we would largely not be speaking about immigration if not for Trump and the way things go, perhaps Jeb Bush would be heading for the nomination fairly unabated.
 
Trump did not say all Mexican immigrants are violent criminals. A false statement…
I believe Trump was deliberately vague regarding his comments on the immigration issue to draw attention to himself. He wanted people to get a false impression on what his immigration stance was.
 
“Direct speech” is not the same thing as espousing responsible good policy; it is not a good thing when these two things are just assumed to be the same thing. All Mexican immigrants are violent criminals. Women labelled as animals and disgusting. Megyn Kelly is a bimbo who should be replaced. How is this celebration of “direct speech” good for anyone? Authentic?
It’s only hurting the feelings of Megyn’s fanboys. I’m sorry that they are so sensitive, but Megyn’s already married.
 
It’s only hurting the feelings of Megyn’s fanboys. I’m sorry that they are so sensitive, but Megyn’s already married.
Oh, it’s a little more than that. He suggested (I think half joking half serious) she should lose her job and be replaced. He is taking out opposition through intimidation - he just failed because Fox and other journalists defended her (as she did nothing wrong and was being shamefully attacked). He sent our good buddy Jorge Ramos out the room during a press conference too - the remaining press in that room had to pressure him to let him back in - which he did no doubt realizing what a fiasco that story would be. Direct speech, eh? Is that what you think Trump is about?
 
I believe Trump was deliberately vague regarding his comments on the immigration issue to draw attention to himself. He wanted people to get a false impression on what his immigration stance was.
If we compare Trump to Scott Walker, Trump is very clear. Walker who I like a lot has really made a mess of this topic, especially last week.

jsonline.com/news/opinion/gov-scott-walker-wrong-again-on-immigration-b99559746z1-322553171.html

thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/25/scott-walker-anti-immigrant-phony.html

So, basically, we are back to the Trust factor of Trump and I agree, that is troubling. Trump is not among my first choices but he has brought up a lot of issues and is a juggernaut.

So, I don’t know Christie’s record well but that is whom I’m for, he said he vetoed every tax increase in NJ, 4000 of them. I know Christie is “maligned” by a lot of “Conservatives”, as big government but he is very candid, he knows his stuff, he has prosecuted terrorists, under the Bush Administration, he was a prosecutor. Smart man.

Cruz is okay, in my opinion, he dodged the question with M. Kelly last night but overall, his pluses are good though, his record does not have the accomplishments of say, Governors, Perry, Walker, Christie and likely Kasich and Jindal too.

As I said in another post, Christie appointed some gay to a position that I think conservatives have problems with, we will see, he seems rather rational.

But for all intents and purposes, Christie is not gaining much traction. I hope he does.
 
I just can’t believe folks who say Carson is pro-abortion. He has said definitively that he is pro-life. I think some are falling for the propaganda and situation twisting to come this conclusion. But, alas, this is how we ended up getting Obama twice.
He referred patients to doctors who did do abortions in “extreme cases” , was a participant in some type of medical dissection of aborted babies brain cells, although he himself didn’t abort them, and was also said to say that a law forbidding abortion was wrong.

The dissection bothers me worse, because many liberals are defending the fetal cells from aborted babies as advancing medical science! This sounds like something a Nazi would say, and no I’m not particularly blaming Dr.Carson. But now medical science shows that adult stem cells work, not fetal ones. Furthermore fetal ones can be obtained from the placenta, so there’s no excuse for this,
 
Oh, it’s a little more than that. He suggested (I think half joking half serious) she should lose her job and be replaced. He is taking out opposition through intimidation - he just failed because Fox and other journalists defended her (as she did nothing wrong and was being shamefully attacked). He sent our good buddy Jorge Ramos out the room during a press conference too - the remaining press in that room had to pressure him to let him back in - which he did no doubt realizing what a fiasco that story would be. Direct speech, eh? Is that what you think Trump is about?
Given his experience in broadcasting, he’s probably just stating his professional opinion that Megyn Kelly isn’t that good. I’m personally not very impressed myself, so I agree with him. If journalists cross the line and ask questions that are stupid, Mr. Trump has the right to not answer their questions. It seems like many want to make their star out of being the fellow that harasses him. That’s not good journalism.
 
If we compare Trump to Scott Walker, Trump is very clear. Walker who I like a lot has really made a mess of this topic, especially last week.

jsonline.com/news/opinion/gov-scott-walker-wrong-again-on-immigration-b99559746z1-322553171.html

thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/25/scott-walker-anti-immigrant-phony.html

So, basically, we are back to the Trust factor of Trump and I agree, that is troubling. Trump is not among my first choices but he has brought up a lot of issues and is a juggernaut.

So, I don’t know Christie’s record well but that is whom I’m for, he said he vetoed every tax increase in NJ, 4000 of them. I know Christie is “maligned” by a lot of “Conservatives”, as big government but he is very candid, he knows his stuff, he has prosecuted terrorists, under the Bush Administration, he was a prosecutor. Smart man.

Cruz is okay, in my opinion, he dodged the question with M. Kelly last night but overall, his pluses are good though, his record does not have the accomplishments of say, Governors, Perry, Walker, Christie and likely Kasich and Jindal too.

As I said in another post, Christie appointed some gay to a position that I think conservatives have problems with, we will see, he seems rather rational.

But for all intents and purposes, Christie is not gaining much traction. I hope he does.
No, Christie is not gaining much traction and I can’t understand it either. He is a good social conservative yet also appeals to moderates, independents, women. He could easily beat Clinton, Biden or Sanders. I hope he comes back on the radar. I have not given up yet. If anyone out there knows why conservatives don’t like Christie (and I don’t want rants) please let me know. I don’t understand.
 
Oh, it’s a little more than that. He suggested (I think half joking half serious) she should lose her job and be replaced. He is taking out opposition through intimidation - he just failed because Fox and other journalists defended her (as she did nothing wrong and was being shamefully attacked). He sent our good buddy Jorge Ramos out the room during a press conference too - the remaining press in that room had to pressure him to let him back in - which he did no doubt realizing what a fiasco that story would be. Direct speech, eh? Is that what you think Trump is about?
So? The press does not treat Republicans right always and Fox is largely the Republican Establishment, this is what experts say, in how they air their shows.

This is what people like about Trump, he fights back and that is one of his intangibles.

Millionaire Atheist Jorge Ramos? I think that was a good job by Trump, Ramos did not have the floor, he was creating a disturbance and shouting above everyone else. Ramos engaged in uncivil behavior.
 
Given his experience in broadcasting, he’s probably just stating his professional opinion that Megyn Kelly isn’t that good. I’m personally not very impressed myself, so I agree with him. If journalists cross the line and ask questions that are stupid, Mr. Trump has the right to not answer their questions. It seems like many want to make their star out of being the fellow that harasses him. That’s not good journalism.
??? He was tweeting personal slurs about her three weeks after she asked him why he had referred to women as disgusting and animals. After the incident had blown over for everyone else. How is that professional? Is Trump the standard by which we judge Kelly? I hope not. Compared to her he comes off like a nut. And I don’t really like her that much either.
 
No, Christie is not gaining much traction and I can’t understand it either. He is a good social conservative yet also appeals to moderates, independents, women. He could easily beat Clinton, Biden or Sanders. I hope he comes back on the radar. I have not given up yet. If anyone out there knows why conservatives don’t like Christie (and I don’t want rants) please let me know. I don’t understand.
Christie is a good candidate I don’t understand it either.
I think Trump is taking all the spotlight now, so to speak that other good candidates aren’t getting a look. I would have no problem voting for Christie if he is the nominee.
I don’t have a problem with a candidate "telling it like it is, I just don’t like the way he (Trump)attacks people, as you pointed out.
I want some one who is a DOER not a talker, and we have good candidates out there who have been governers of states that have good records.
As I pointed out earlier, and as Pathfinder has pointed out, yes we need to talk about immigration.
We’ve had an administration WAY too soft on immigration to say the least, and with the horror of the killings in these sanctuary cities by people who should have either been deported or behind bars, with the key thrown away, of course Trump is resonating.
People are tired of all the namby-pamby political correctness, too, another reason why a “tell it like it is” person is resonating. But we need to ]take a serious look at records, folks, and Trump doesn’t have one. We need someone, calm , smart, smart strong.
But we need someone who can negotiate with our enemies and be strong, Like Reagan, but diplomatic, like Reagan.
And Trump is no Reagan.
 
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