Donald Trump Presidential Campaign Thread

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estesbob said:
So At the end of World War II we should have prosecuted those who ran the death camps but not those who hired them to do so?
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Or the entire population for empowering Hitler in the first place?
 
estesbob said:
Appointed by the Democrat House of Lords
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So do you think that the superdelegates should vote for Sanders instead? And if there were no superdelegates in the Democratic party, Clinton would still be the nominee because she will still come out with more pledged delegates than Sanders. BTW, the superdelegates are only about 15% of the total number of delegates.
 
Thorolfr said:
So do you think that the superdelegates should vote for Sanders instead? And if there were no superdelegates in the Democratic party, Clinton would still be the nominee because she will still come out with more pledged delegates than Sanders.
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We don’t know that The fact that she had 15% of the delegates wrapped up before the first vote was cast gave her a huge boost that gave her unearned momentum going into the early primaries But one thing the Democrat elite does not want is the unwashed masses picking someone they don’t approve of.
 
estesbob said:
But one thing the Democrat elite does not want is the unwashed masses picking someone they don’t approve of.
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I’m sure that a lot of Republicans wish the same thing. Trump will probably be a disaster for the Republican party.
 
Thorolfr said:
I’m sure that a lot of Republicans wish the same thing. Trump will probably be a disaster for the Republican party.
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Republicans have been denouncing him left and right today and this past weekend. Of course they are going to vote for him anyway. Go figure.
 
Good_Tidings said:
Would the delegates be going against the will of the people?
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Not at all, of course. Hillary has millions of more votes than Sanders (and Trump).

I understand that the Republicans are scrambling every which way they can, but the Democrats will proudly unite behind our country’s first female Presidential candidate. And then, our amazing country will do the same in November.
 
Ridgerunner said:
I don’t think Trump said it at all well, but I think he has reason to question the impartiality of this judge.

I’ll admit I’m probably spoiled by the fact that in my state judges are not supposed to engage in politics at all, other than their own re-election campaigns. They have to be very careful in avoiding even the appearance of it. That’s the rule so they wouldn’t be questioned as to politically-based biases. Also, in my state, you can disqualify one judge just because you want to, without giving any reason for it. You can’t do that with federal judges. If you want to disqualify one of them, you have to ask them to disqualify and state your reasons. If the federal judge doesn’t do it, you have criticized him without having any remedy at all.

It’s very common for judges who don’t want a biased jury to keep evidence sealed until trial. In this case, there was no good reason for the judge to release it to the public, but he did, despite Trump’s lawyers asking him not to do it. And he did it even though he, himself declared the testimony of the initiating plaintiff unworthy of belief.

Once Judge Curiel released all of the unproven allegations against Trump, that posed two problems for Trump. One is that it will provide campaign material for Hillary Clinton which will undoubtedly be used as if it was undeniably true. The bigger problem ultimately is that the political use of it will make it hard to find an unbiased jury that hasn’t seen any of the spin the Clinton campaign will put on the unproven allegations, including the ones the judge determined unworthy of belief.

There’s not much Trump can do about either problem other than discount it in some way and in advance. So, Trump, as he is wont to do, decided to get out in front of it. I’m not saying he did it well, but that’s what he does when he sees what’s ahead of him in the campaign.
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I’m sorry, but the attack on the judge is racist. If Trump said the judge was incompetent, that would have been fine (not smart though). But he said that he was motivated by his race because Trump is ‘going to build a wall’ and that the judge ‘happens to be, we believe, Mexican’. That’s straight out racist. No Hispanic can judge him because Trump is going to build a wall. And no Muslim can judge him because he’s going to ban Muslims from coming into the country. He hasn’t gotten to women yet, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s next.

So, you can claim whatever you want to make excuses for Trump’s racist behavior, as people seem like to make excuses for his willingness to torture and his desire to target noncombatants.
 
Thorolfr said:
I’m sure that a lot of Republicans wish the same thing. Trump will probably be a disaster for the Republican party.
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Well, we’ve had Paul Ryan, John Kasich and Newt Gingrich say that Trump is being foolish in criticizing the judge overseeing the case against him. They know darn well that they are about to lose Hispanics for the foreseeable future based on Trump going straight out racist.

I bet they wish they had the superdelegates and proportional allocation of delegates based on voting because the Republican nomination would still be in play and you know darn well that Trump’s little temper tantrum would be killing any chance of him winning that nomination.

But let’s keep up the fiction that Hillary Clinton wouldn’t have won the nomination and let’s keep an idea of who is propagating that fiction when they proclaim their personal interpretation of Church teaching on voting.
 
_Abyssinia said:
On The O’Reilly Factor, Donald Trump said regarding Judge Curial, “I don’t care if the Judge is Mexican or not” “so I don’t care about Mexican.” He then said again that he didn’t care about the Mexican stuff in relation to the Judge.
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I guess that explains why he brought it up multiple times. Of course, this explanation will be acceptable to his supporters since they have to keep up the fiction that Trump didn’t make racist comments.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Once Judge Curiel released all of the unproven allegations against Trump, that posed two problems for Trump. One is that it will provide campaign material for Hillary Clinton which will undoubtedly be used as if it was undeniably true. The bigger problem ultimately is that the political use of it will make it hard to find an unbiased jury that hasn’t seen any of the spin the Clinton campaign will put on the unproven allegations, including the ones the judge determined unworthy of belief.
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Some of the most important material that was released did not involve “unproven allegations”. It included internal Trump University materials like the “playbook” which gave instructions for how instructors should try to get people to take expensive Gold Elite courses even if they couldn’t afford it by convincing them to put the charges on their credit cards. So that kind of material is not just an “allegation” by some dissatisfied former student.
 
Here’s a great new Clinton campaign video released today with clips of fellow Republicans criticizing Trump for his racist comments about Judge Curiel:

businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-trump-judge-curiel-video-2016-6

Probably no campaign has had so much self inflicted and inflammatory material against their opponent as what the Clinton campaign is going to have and the ones doing the bashing are Republicans.
 
BuzzFeed pulls out of $1.3M advertising deal with RNC over Donald Trump
BuzzFeed has pulled out ofanadvertising agreement with the Republican National Committee over objections to Donald Trump’s rhetoric.
The buy was for $1.3 million, a source close to BuzzFeed told POLITICO. The source said that the main consideration was the site’s employees – that BuzzFeed could not countenance “having employees make ads, or working at the company and having our site promoting things, that limit our freedom and make it harder for them to live their lives.”
Asked if the site would rule out any Trump advertising, the source said the specifics would matter: “In general, we have taken the position that we won’t take ads for his presidential campaign.”
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Crossbones said:
I’m sorry, but the attack on the judge is racist. If Trump said the judge was incompetent, that would have been fine (not smart though). But he said that he was motivated by his race because Trump is ‘going to build a wall’ and that the judge ‘happens to be, we believe, Mexican’. That’s straight out racist. No Hispanic can judge him because Trump is going to build a wall. And no Muslim can judge him because he’s going to ban Muslims from coming into the country. He hasn’t gotten to women yet, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s next.

So, you can claim whatever you want to make excuses for Trump’s racist behavior, as people seem like to make excuses for his willingness to torture and his desire to target noncombatants.
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I hope I’m not wrong on this, but despite the ugliness in Trump’s comment, and btw I’m not Caucasian myself, I’m not convinced he is a racist. I think Boreli is probably right, that there are all kinds of people who would attest that Trump is not a racist. I think there are ethnic minority individuals who would attest that Trump has treated them fairly, that he has treated them like anybody else. To be a racist you have to believe that a race is superior to another. I doubt Trump believes that. But I can’t see in his heart. But I’m not convinced he a racist, despite the Judge Curial comments being offensive, and discriminatory.
 
Good_Tidings said:
Republicans have been denouncing him left and right today and this past weekend. Of course they are going to vote for him anyway. Go figure.
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Just as the Dems dismiss all the controversy that follows Clinton. Go figure.🙂
 
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