Not sure how you include private sales absent national firearm registration. Even setting aside political difficulties, the logistics of registering 300M+ legally owned firearms is impossible, not to mention some unknown millions of illegally owned.
I don’t understand why registration is necessary. It just requires that sellers check with a national database to see if they are allowed to sell to a potential buyer (i.e., make sure that they are not on the terrorist watch list). That’s what the NRA wants. Are you against their plan?
The majority of the NRA membership want gun manufacturers to pay for background checks and that is the reason gun manufacturers should pay for it?
Not quite. The NRA plan requires a thorough background check by the FBI for any sale purchase to an individual on the terrorist watch list. It is not an out right ban for anyone on the list. And yes I support this proposal.
Right, you cannot sell to someone on the terrorist watch list until that person has an opportunity to address the issue in court. I think that’s fair. Some people are probably on the terrorist watch list that shouldn’t be and they shouldn’t be banned from holding firearms without having the right to redress this in court.
Doubtful. Our Congress is running out the clock on Mr. Obama.
The NRA proposal is reasonable, so why wouldn’t it pass the Republican Congress? After all, most of the Republicans are fans of the NRA.
I cannot get Sandy Hook and the inaction that followed out of my mind.
What is the level of scrutiny required to be placed on the Terrorist watch list? This is a federal law enforcement thing so I am not sure but up until now it has not been a big deal because those on the terrorist watch list don't lose anything. They are just being watched (loosely in the case of most)
Now if we place a universal ban on those on the terrorist watch list we are now talking about having to place a high standard on being placed on it since we are stripping a citizen of a constitutional right by being on it. This would mean it would be much harder to place someone on the terrorist watch list, which could make it less useful.
Also keep in mind most people on the terrorist watch list are not aware they are on it, it is not public knowledge or easily available to open records. Now if we placed a universal ban then anyone who thought they may be on the watch list could go try to buy a gun and would then know if they are or are not on the watch list because if they are they couldn't get it.
I really doubt any universal ban would hold up in any court. Just being on the watch list doesn't mean you have done anything, just that they think you might do something or be associated with the wrong person. How can you tell a U.S. Citizen who hasn't committed any crime that they cannot have a constitutionally guaranteed right because we think they may do someone at some time.....I don't see that holding up. Its not like a convicted felon who we know and convicted for a crime and can articulate why they should not own own a firearm.
How is watching a hour-long Trump rally considered “keeping up with what’s going on”? If you have a point to make, at least tell us exactly where in this video to find your key point so we can skip right to it. The man disgusts me and I cannot take watching more than a minute or two. But I will put up with it to see what your point is.
It would be impossible to regulate private gun sales, these are so common, and generally they are a cash transaction with buyer meeting seller, just like if you were to buy a weedeater off craigslist, how in the world could they enact or even enforce such a thing? They would have to monitor ALL the online and print classifieds 24/7, and in every city in the country.
Right, the path both these parties are on is somewhat similar today but as far as closing all loop holes it can’t be done. They are working on the front end with loop holes and safety checks nationwide with terrorist watch list. But on the backside, after a private owner buys a gun, there is no control over where that gun goes. If for example the person turns out to a behavior issue like Mateen, and obviously not a assimilated america, whats to stop him from selling the guns to anyone else who is a radical. The law which they disregard? There is no stopping the issue.
Your argument is all about practicalities. And it is a huge practical problem. There is no easy solution, but there are some costly solutions. So the question becomes, what cost is acceptable?
So, you are against the plan proposed by the NRA?
And you know how they get around it, they report the gun stolen. In other words if I’m caught with a gun you sold me and I don’t have a permit and you do, then you committed a crime. That said if the gun is reported stolen then there really is no case.
So, are you against the NRA plan?
But how am I going to do a background check as a private seller? I don’t have access to NICS, and allowing access to it would mean that anyone could do a full criminal history check on someone just because they claim to be selling a gun. It would open up a lot of avenues for abuse of the system.
Is everyone here against the NRA plan? I mean, it’s from the NRA, so you think that the people the organization represents would be for it.