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New Quinnipiac University poll:

"FLORIDA: Trump 42 - Clinton 39
OHIO: Clinton 41 - Trump 41
PENNSYLVANIA: Trump 43 - Clinton 41
With a drop in grades on honesty and moral standards, Democrat Hillary Clinton loses an 8-point lead over Republican Donald Trump in Florida, and finds herself in too-close-to-call races in the three critical swing states of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, according to a Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll released today. "

qu.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/2016-presidential-swing-state-polls/release-detail?ReleaseID=2365
 
TMC said:
Gingrich married one of his high school teachers. Cheated on her, divorced her while she was on her death bed, and married his younger mistress. When she got older he cheated on her, divorced her, and married his younger mistress. Like most rich and powerful people, he had no trouble getting his first two marriages annulled. But his behavior speaks for itself.
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Gingrich was 19. He was a teenager; she was MUCH older.

She was not on her death bed. In fact, she lived to be 77. Died only a couple of years ago.

He did not get his first two marriages annulled.

It’s difficult defending Hillary Clinton when she is a person who would rather lie than tell the truth.

Isn’t it.

blacknewsweekly.com/news461.html
 
Trump says Ginsburg should resign: Trump’s feud with Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, meanwhile, is getting nastier. Early Wednesday morning, he called for her to resign. In a tweet, he said her “mind is shot” and that she should quit the high court. ABC News has more on the war of words between the two. Ginsburg has called Trump a “faker” who lacks consistency for not releasing his tax returns. Here’s Trump’s tweet:
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marketwatch.com/story/trump-leads-clinton-in-florida-pennsylvania-polls-trump-says-ginsburg-should-resign-2016-07-13

Unethical, inappropriate and political bias as a liberal justice who while may indeed think as she pleases but to verbalize in public is widening of boundary for political gain.
 
Mark Shea had this on his blog yesterday.

medium.com/@mattleeanderson/we-are-now-in-the-12th-hour-of-the-conservatisms-life-in-this-election-cycle-which-means-it-is-as-ceca1f7106f5#.v7x3cqvu0

Here is an excerpt:
What do I mean? Let us think for a moment about the effects of a Trump/pro-life alliance beyond the Courts. For one, supporting Trump means that every Republican candidate going forward need only offer the thinnest of overtures to pro-lifers to win their support, and that there will be nothing conservatives can do if such candidates do not deliver. If Trump were to be nominated and fail to appoint conservative justices, the logic of the “Dumb and Dumber” argument would mean that there could be no reprisals. The idea that there is a chance the Republican nominee elects better justices because he says he will do so is impervious to any kind of falsification, and as such, eliminates any kind of meaningful political reprisal against the party that fails in its pro-life duties.
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n normal conditions, I could easily see pro-lifers voting for non-optimal candidates on the basis of the likelihood of political pressures making them more pro-life than their instincts might otherwise lead them to be. This was, for what it’s worth, a huge part of my argument for supporting Mitt Romney in the general election last time around. There were many questions about the depths of his pro-life commitments: I defended him on the basis that, even if he himself had intuitions that I disagreed with, he clearly wanted to be a two-term President and needed pro-lifers desperately.
But Romney also was (and is) clearly an incredible family man. His early pro-choice policies were worse than his own personal life. And the importance of that cannot be understated: Romney gave pro-lifers the chance of justices and the rest of it in a package that fundamentally endorsed the cultural conditions which we think are essential for minimizing abortions, namely, stable families.
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This case is clearly different. Trump is a walking-anecdote for the various cultural ideologies and trajectories that the pro-life movement opposes. Specifically, by voting for Trump, they endorse someone who in his personal life has not merely lived in, but reveled in the moral atmosphere and commitments that stand beneath our abortion culture.
If abortions happen because of the breakdown of marriage, then there is nothing ‘pro-life’ about electing someone who is at best a serial monogamist. If the abortion culture has anything to do with the wider degradation of our society’s sex and morals — as pro-lifers have argued it does for as long as I have been alive — then there is nothing pro-life in endorsing a candidate who has bragged about the number of his sexual partners. It matters that Trump is unwilling to answer whether he personally has funded abortions. It matters a great deal
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And believe it or not, Trump knows what it’s like to be black and have the system biased against you:
But even as he expressed concerns over the police killings of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile, describing videos of the encounters as “tough to watch”, Trump blamed Barack Obama and Black Lives Matter as primarily responsible for divisions over race.
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“I think it’s certainly, it’s very divisive and I think they’re hurting themselves,” Trump told Fox News host Bill O’Reilly in reference to the phrase “black lives matter” and the eponymous movement leading national demonstrations for criminal justice reform.
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“The first time I heard it I said ‘You have to be kidding,’” said Trump. “I think it’s a very, very, very divisive term. There’s no question about it.”
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Asked what he would say to African Americans who feel as though the system was biased against them, Trump drew an analogy with his own campaign.
“Well, I’ve been saying, even against me the system is rigged,” Trump told O’Reilly. “When I ran for president I could see what is going on with the system, and the system is rigged.
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“I can really relate it very much to myself.”
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theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/13/donald-trump-strikes-muddled-note-on-divisive-black-lives-matter

Who would have thought that a white billionaire would have so much in common with African Americans. :rolleyes:
 
Thorolfr said:
And believe it or not, Trump knows what it’s like to be black and have the system biased against you:

theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/13/donald-trump-strikes-muddled-note-on-divisive-black-lives-matter

Who would have thought that a white billionaire would have so much in common with African Americans. :rolleyes:
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I don’t know if Trump can identify with them, but I’m sure someone like JZ can identify with Trump, and many many black people look up to and identify with him. So I think black people can identify with Trump much more than with an establishment politician like Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush. You might even say that if elected Trump would be our first ‘hip hop’ president.
 
_Abyssinia said:
New Quinnipiac University poll:

"FLORIDA: Trump 42 - Clinton 39
OHIO: Clinton 41 - Trump 41
PENNSYLVANIA: Trump 43 - Clinton 41
With a drop in grades on honesty and moral standards, Democrat Hillary Clinton loses an 8-point lead over Republican Donald Trump in Florida, and finds herself in too-close-to-call races in the three critical swing states of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, according to a Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll released today. "

qu.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/2016-presidential-swing-state-polls/release-detail?ReleaseID=2365
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This is kind of interesting from the NBC News|SurveyMonkey Weekly Election Tracking Poll conducted online from July 4 through July 10, 2016
While it is unclear what lasting impacts the investigation could have on her bid for presidency, the email investigation’s findings do not appear to have moved Clinton’s favorability ratings significantly. When respondents were asked their impression of the Democratic candidate in May, 59 percent of voters said they had either a “somewhat” or “very” unfavorable impression of Clinton. This week, amid intense scrutiny, her disapproval rating is now 60 percent — virtually unchanged since two months ago. Trump does not appear to have benefited from Clinton’s controversy as he also has a 62 percent unfavorable rating this week; identical to his rating among registered voters in May.
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nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-s-lead-over-trump-shrinks-after-controversial-week-n607351

Trump is still viewed more unfavorably than Clinton.
 
tomarin said:
I wonder what it would be among younger black people (given that young people in general aren’t big on Hillary).
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NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump is wildly unpopular among young adults, in particular young people of color, and nearly two-thirds of Americans between the ages of 18 and 30 believe the presumptive Republican nominee is racist.
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That’s the finding of a new GenForward poll that also found just 19 percent of young people have a favorable opinion of Trump compared to the three-quarters of young adults who hold a dim view of the New York billionaire.
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Trump’s likely general election opponent, Hillary Clinton, is also unpopular with young people, but not nearly to the same extent as the real estate mogul and realty TV star. A mere 6 percent of young African Americans, 10 percent of young Hispanics, 12 percent of young Asian Americans and 27 percent of young whites see Trump in a favorable light, ratings that suggest the celebrity businessman faces a staggering task this summer to win their backing in his bid for the White House.
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The poll found that only 39 percent of young people have a favorable opinion of Clinton to 54 percent who have an unfavorable view of the presumptive Democratic nominee.
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bigstory.ap.org/article/f075ace3ed4c4387bd53ca6c8d7bc8b7/poll-most-young-people-dislike-gops-trump-say-hes-racist

So Clinton is viewed favorably by about twice as many young people as Trump (39% to 19%).
 
GaryTaylor said:
Unethical, inappropriate and political bias as a liberal justice who while may indeed think as she pleases but to verbalize in public is widening of boundary for political gain.
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There are plenty of conservatives who also see Trump for what he is. You don’t need a left-wing conspiracy to explain their thoughts.
 
gracepoole said:
There are plenty of conservatives who also see Trump for what he is. You don’t need a left-wing conspiracy to explain their thoughts.
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Plenty of left and right who see Hillary for what she is too, perhaps too much righteous indignation all around. Hillary does have a conspiracy theory.
Because I want to focus the attention of our country and to make the changes we need to make. I also want people, especially I want white people — I want white people to recognize that there is systemic racism. It’s also in employment. It’s in housing, but it is in the criminal justice system as well.”
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:eek: conspiracy theory
 
GaryTaylor said:
Plenty of left and right who see Hillary for what she is too, perhaps too much righteous indignation all around.
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Then I assume we agree that smearing Ginsburg for seeing Trump for what he is because she has a “political bias” doesn’t make sense. Or is it just all about the tu quoque here?
 
gracepoole said:
Then I assume we agree that smearing Ginsburg for seeing Trump for what he is because she has a “political bias” doesn’t make sense. Or is it just all about the tu quoque here?
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SCOTUS is not supposed to do this. They are supposed to remain free of partisan politics. I understand how someone on the left would not get that, though.😉
 
XndrK said:
100%-(39%+19%)=42%

Forty-two percent of American young people would rather vote for nobody.
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Lots of young people don’t vote anyway, but for those who do, many more will be voting for Clinton than for Trump.
 
gracepoole said:
Then I assume we agree that smearing Ginsburg for seeing Trump for what he is because she has a “political bias” doesn’t make sense. Or is it just all about the tu quoque here?
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More accurately, she expresses what she thinks Trump is; a view which you apparently share. But it’s really just her political opinion; something justices are traditionally not supposed to be expressing publicly.

But since the Supremes consider themselves accountable to no one but themselves when it comes to judicial ethics, nothing will come of it other than perhaps renewed discussion of her being a politically liberal justice who acts politically on the bench and has expressed her belief that the constitution is outmoded and should be amended to conform to foreign models.

None of that is “smearing Ginsburg”. She has said that herself.

And since she was appointed by Bill Clinton, she is an example of what kinds of justices Hillary Clinton will likely appoint.
 
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