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SCOTUS is not supposed to do this. They are supposed to remain free of partisan politics. I understand how someone on the left would not get that, though.😉
My point was that it doesn’t take partisanship to smell Trump as a “faker.” But I understand how someone on the right wouldn’t get that. :kiss4you:
 
Then I assume we agree that smearing Ginsburg for seeing Trump for what he is because she has a “political bias” doesn’t make sense. Or is it just all about the tu quoque here?
The New York Times editorial board (no less) would beg to differ here:
NYT slams Ginsburg for ‘punditry and name-calling’ against Trump.
**The left-leaning New York Times editorial board is calling on Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, an icon for many liberals, to stop her public criticism of Donald Trump.
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Ginsburg has used three media interview opportunities to rail against the Republican nominee, calling him a “faker,” inconsistent on policy and unfit for the presidency.
**But Ginsburg “needs to drop the political punditry and the name-calling,” the Times said Wednesday, in an op-ed titled “Donald Trump is right about Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.”
“And just imagine if this were 2000 and the resolution of the election depended on a Supreme Court decision,” the paper said. “Could anyone now argue with a straight face that Justice Ginsburg’s only guide would be the law?”
“Washington is more than partisan enough without the spectacle of a Supreme Court justice flinging herself into the mosh pit,” the Times added.**
Must say I am quite surprised at this, though I see it as an abundance of caution. In essence the board is saying to Ginsberg: “Please, don’t show your/our hand so obviously, crassly. It could very well backfire. We need the pretense of objectivity, remember.”
 
100%-(39%+19%)=42%

Forty-two percent of American young people would rather vote for nobody.
But most of them who are really Democrats will likely vote for Clinton anyway, because she’s the only abortion-on-demand candidate left.
 
My point was that it doesn’t take partisanship to smell Trump as a “faker.” But I understand how someone on the right wouldn’t get that. :kiss4you:
And some accuse others of “smearing”?
 
But most of them who are really Democrats will likely vote for Clinton anyway, because she’s the only abortion-on-demand candidate left.
Last I checked, abortion on demand isn’t the ONE ISSUE that everyone cares about.

I mean, if I missed it in the news, then oopth, but…🤷
 
More accurately, she expresses what she thinks Trump is; a view which you apparently share. But it’s really just her political opinion; something justices are traditionally not supposed to be expressing publicly.

But since the Supremes consider themselves accountable to no one but themselves when it comes to judicial ethics, nothing will come of it other than perhaps renewed discussion of her being a politically liberal justice who acts politically on the bench and has expressed her belief that the constitution is outmoded and should be amended to conform to foreign models.

None of that is “smearing Ginsburg”. She has said that herself.

And since she was appointed by Bill Clinton, she is an example of what kinds of justices Hillary Clinton will likely appoint.
Ronald Reagan, who actually was conservative and had great faith and was prolife appointed Scalia, O’Connor and Kennedy. Scalia seems to have been the only conservative.
 
Ronald Reagan, who actually was conservative and had great faith and was prolife appointed Scalia, O’Connor and Kennedy. Scalia seems to have been the only conservative.
We have very few politicians today who are really committed to larger moral and economic issues, such as Reagan was. Perhaps Sanders, perhaps Cruz. But the current presidential candidates: not really IMO. They are pragmatists, for better or worse, and committed primarily to empowering themselves.
 
We have very few politicians today who are really committed to larger moral and economic issues, such as Reagan was. Perhaps Sanders, perhaps Cruz. But the current presidential candidates: not really IMO. They are pragmatists, for better or worse, and committed primarily to empowering themselves.
What larger economic issues was Reagan committed to besides “trickle down” economics that favored the rich?
 
Ronald Reagan, who actually was conservative and had great faith and was prolife appointed Scalia, O’Connor and Kennedy. Scalia seems to have been the only conservative.
And G.W. Bush appointed Roberts and Alito, who are indisputably prolife. It’s sometimes difficult to predict. But we already know both Obama appointees to the Court are pro-abortion, and Hillary Clinton promises to appoint more of that sort.

So yes, some uncertainty with Trump appointees on the one hand (but not much) and total certainty with Clinton appointees on the other.
 
What larger economic issues was Reagan committed to besides “trickle down” economics that favored the rich?
Reagan was committed to small government. I may not agree with his economic policies but there is no doubt in my mind he held to certain commitments and had a definite vision for the country and the world.

Today, OTOH, which politicians have such commitment? Very, very few.
 
Reagan was committed to small government. I may not agree with his economic policies but there is no doubt in my mind he held to certain commitments and had a definite vision for the country and the world.

Today, OTOH, which politicians have such commitment? Very, very few.
Was he really committed to small government?
  1. Reagan was a serial tax raiser. As governor of California, Reagan “signed into law the largest tax increase in the history of any state up till then.” Meanwhile, state spending nearly doubled. As president, Reagan “raised taxes in seven of his eight years in office,” including four times in just two years. As former GOP Senator Alan Simpson, who called Reagan “a dear friend,” told NPR, “Ronald Reagan raised taxes 11 times in his administration — I was there.” “Reagan was never afraid to raise taxes,” said historian Douglas Brinkley, who edited Reagan’s memoir. Reagan the anti-tax zealot is “false mythology,” Brinkley said.
  1. Reagan nearly tripled the federal budget deficit. During the Reagan years, the debt increased to nearly $3 trillion, “roughly three times as much as the first 80 years of the century had done altogether.”
thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/02/05/142288/reagan-centennial/
Under Reagan, the federal workforce increased by about 324,000 to almost 5.3 million people. (The new hires weren’t just soldiers to fight the communists, either: uniformed military personnel only accounted for 26 percent of the increase.) In 2012, the federal government employed almost a million fewer people than it did in the last year of Reagan’s presidency.
motherjones.com/mojo/2014/12/ronald-reagan-big-government-legacy
 
SCOTUS is not supposed to do this. They are supposed to remain free of partisan politics. I understand how someone on the left would not get that, though.😉
Some liberals have no liking for precedent (unless it forwards their “progressive” agenda). SC justices are supposed to be neutral and judge cases according to the law. We can hardly hope that Ginsburg will do so, or has done so in the past. Besides, it is just plain “not classy”.
 
Some liberals have no liking for precedent (unless it forwards their “progressive” agenda). SC justices are supposed to be neutral and judge cases according to the law. We can hardly hope that Ginsburg will do so, or has done so in the past. Besides, it is just plain “not classy”.
I agree, but admit to kind of enjoying it. I would much rather have it all out in the open. She doesn’t come off much better than Trump in their escalating Twitter / media war. Unseemly, yes, but we are so past worrying about that, my God. Decorum, objectivity are not even feigned anymore. (Obama is the same way - doesn’t matter where - police funeral.)
 
Some liberals have no liking for precedent (unless it forwards their “progressive” agenda). SC justices are supposed to be neutral and judge cases according to the law. We can hardly hope that Ginsburg will do so, or has done so in the past. Besides, it is just plain “not classy”.
Broad sweeping generalizations much? Do you have any basis for saying that liberals don’t like precedent? I note that it is very popular on CA Forums to propose that Roe v. Wade be overturned, despite its precedential value. Hardly a liberal position.
 
I agree, but admit to kind of enjoying it. I would much rather have it all out in the open. She doesn’t come off much better than Trump in their escalating Twitter / media war. Unseemly, yes, but we are so past worrying about that, my God. Decorum, objectivity are not even feigned anymore. (Obama is the same way - doesn’t matter where - police funeral.)
And Trump basically calls her old and senile. Probably just take her anger out on the next conservative law.

usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-07-13/the-latest-clinton-cites-lincolns-in-unity-plea

nytimes.com/2016/07/13/opinion/donald-trump-is-right-about-justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg.html

Something even the left wants her to be quiet.
 
Ah, but has he finally met his match here? 😃 One nutty loose cannon against another.
Probably why they want her quiet on the left [just address liberal favored law don’t talk] don’t “help” them or Donald.
 
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