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_Abyssinia said:
Romney won in 2012, but the state being kept red with Trump as the Republican nominee, is valuable to know.
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As odd as this cycle has been, I don’t see many of the traditional red and blue states flipping. The fight remains in the swing states.
 
TMC said:
As odd as this cycle has been, I don’t see many of the traditional red and blue states flipping. The fight remains in the swing states.
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Like these states?🙂
Clinton is ahead of Trump by eight points among registered voters in Colorado, 43 percent to 35 percent; a combined 21 percent say neither, other or are undecided.
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In Florida, which decided the 2000 presidential election, she’s up seven points, 44 percent to 37 percent; the rest are undecided or prefer someone else.
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In North Carolina, a state Obama won in 2008 but lost in 2012, Clinton leads by six points, 44 percent to 38 percent.
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And in Virginia, Clinton’s advantage is nine points, 44 percent to 35 percent.
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Clinton Leads Trump in Diverse Battleground States in New Polls
nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/clinton-leads-trump-diverse-battleground-states-new-polls-n609551
 
Songcatcher said:
Like these states?🙂

Clinton Leads Trump in Diverse Battleground States in New Polls
nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/clinton-leads-trump-diverse-battleground-states-new-polls-n609551
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And a Quinnipiac university poll has Trump leading in Florida (Clinton losing an 8 point lead), Trump and Clinton tied in Ohio and Trump leading in Pennsylvania: qu.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/2016-presidential-swing-state-polls/release-detail?ReleaseID=2365
 
Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Trump’s military advisor, wants someone who died in 1989 to condem the mass murder in Nice.

Making demands of the dead aside, does he think Iran is in league with ISIS? Does he realize that Iran has been a major force in the fight against ISIS in recent months? Does he even know the difference between Sunni and Shia Islam?

He and Trump either don’t know or - more likely - don’t want to know. They just need to be able to point to some “other,” some Struwwelpeter they can trot out to scare voters.

Sadly for them it’s looking like the reality of Nice was more banal but no less frightening: a man with a history of domestic violence and alcohol abuse disintegrated with horrifying results.
 
Thorolfr said:
That’s good news…🙂
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If she gets those 4, along with the solid blue states, she would have 284 electoral votes. That’s without Ohio and Pennsylvania!

What’s even worse for Trump, in the swing states, is that he still has no ground game.

foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/15/trump-campaign-running-on-shoestring-still.html
The lack of coordination at the local level, though, has left some feeling nervous.
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“Having worked in GOP grassroots politics for more than 20 years I can honestly say I have never seen a Republican presidential campaign with this weak of a field presence,” one Florida Republican told Politico. “Where are the local offices in the major cities?”
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Another GOP insider added, “Donald Trump just hired a guy yesterday in Colorado. One guy — does that count as an organization?”
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FoxNews.com recently tested the waters and called local headquarters in the battleground states of Florida, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Virginia and Iowa.
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Of those calls made to state headquarters, three went straight to voicemail. Other calls resulted in the automated error messages.
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Songcatcher said:
If she gets those 4, along with the solid blue states, she would have 284 electoral votes. That’s without Ohio and Pennsylvania!

What’s even worse for Trump, in the swing states, is that he still has no ground game.

foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/15/trump-campaign-running-on-shoestring-still.html
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I believe that Trump’s campaign will be sunk by the fact that it is so disorganized. I don’t think he has the discipline and organization to win in the end.
 
Luigi_Daniele said:
Except for babies.
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Not exactly. Actually Hillary Clinton has always been a strong advocate for children’s health. She was instrumental in bringing healthcare to children whose mothers and fathers are unable to afford the healthcare that babies and children need after they are brought into this world.
 
Siegehammer said:
Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Trump’s military advisor, wants someone who died in 1989 to condem the mass murder in Nice.

Making demands of the dead aside, does he think Iran is in league with ISIS? Does he realize that Iran has been a major force in the fight against ISIS in recent months? Does he even know the difference between Sunni and Shia Islam?

He and Trump either don’t know or - more likely - don’t want to know. They just need to be able to point to some “other,” some Struwwelpeter they can trot out to scare voters.

Sadly for them it’s looking like the reality of Nice was more banal but no less frightening: a man with a history of domestic violence and alcohol abuse disintegrated with horrifying results.
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Wow Trump actually has a military advisor now beyond watching Chuck Todd on Sunday and the other Sunday cable news shows.
 
Thorolfr said:
I believe that Trump’s campaign will be sunk by the fact that it is so disorganized. I don’t think he has the discipline and organization to win in the end.
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Wasn’t that the common belief among pundits etc. regarding Trump’s campaign during the primaries?
 
_Abyssinia said:
Wasn’t that the common belief among pundits etc. regarding Trump’s campaign during the primaries?
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Ahhhhhh yes that 2016 Republican primary. Yes it correlates so well with a Presidential yr general election. :rolleyes:
 
Thorolfr said:
I believe that Trump’s campaign will be sunk by the fact that it is so disorganized. I don’t think he has the discipline and organization to win in the end.
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Don’t count him out yet. He has done well so far with an unconventional campaign. I’ll still think it will be close.
 
Republicans could win by a significant percent. The democrats have consistently overestimated their position and with the same fatal flaw of Clinton with the bigotry of low expectation. Change is quite possible as we see, but to vaguely identify without a real desire to honestly address the issues leaves us with Clintons race baiting. What we have is a gap between reality and identification and what in fact our expectations are in this area.

This issue is a flaw that doesn’t address the real issue but in fact neglects it as has been witnessed in various areas with Hillary and most notably with racism and institutional racism as we see of recent. 🤷
 
TMC said:
Don’t count him out yet. He has done well so far with an unconventional campaign. I’ll still think it will be close.
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Except for a brief stint following 911 when the country seemed to come together, Americans have been especially divided politically ever since Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000 and GW Bush the Presidency. So I agree it could be close. But that Electoral College map still looks like a climb for Trump to me.

Even if he flips from 2012, OH, PA, NH, CO, IA and Clinton flips nothing, not NC or any other state, she still wins. Close yes but she wins.

Doable but he almost has to win FL or win VA and CO to have a a chance.
 
I just saw this interesting bit of news about why Sarah Palin is not scheduled to speak at the Republican convention:
Trump: No Palin at the convention because she is 'a long ways away’
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Former vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin isn’t included in the official list of speakers for the Republican National Convention next week, and Donald Trump suggested in an interview that her absence is because she lives too far from the venue.
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“She was asked,” Trump told the Washington Examiner in a phone interview on Thursday. “It’s a little bit difficult because of where she is. We love Sarah. Little bit difficult because of, you know, it’s a long ways away.”
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washingtonexaminer.com/trump-explains-palins-absence-from-gop-convention-speakers/article/2596490#.V4e9FGvyS5s.twitter
 
Trump spoke about overturning the Johnson Amendment today. Interesting, but wouldn’t that also force taxes on churches?
 
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