Donald Trump's war on Megyn Kelly

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He did call her a bimbo on twitter before the “blood” comment. There is no misinterpreting that.
As I understood he retweeted a comment with that characterization. I think you can call him to account for that comment. But this is a guy who routinely insults everyone. I’m not sure why calling her a bimbo would be any more offensive than calling someone a ‘fat slob’. Personally I’m less offended by Trump than Hillary’s maniacal laughing about killing people, or John McCain and most of the Republican party’s enthusiasm for the same.
This may well be the beginning of the end for the Trump blip.
Democrats may well be willing to abide by politicians slurring young women, but this goes against the core of what Republicans can abide by.
The core of a party where Newt Gingrich and John McCain were frontrunners and McCain the candidate? The core of a party where they opposed forced health insurance which was a policy implemented by their last presidential candidate? I expect many Republicans to make lots of noise over this. But it is not a matter of principles.

Do any Republicans realize it was Fox News, the ‘conservative’ news channel, that was the first to make a key feature of its news programs having attractive blondes wearing above the knee skirts tell the news? The conservative news is the one most objectifying women. It is all a farce.
 
And, because Trump is a loose canon, if they alienate this man of immense ego and he makes a third party bid, it could result in yet another horrific example of Republicans beating themselves,
His supporters are the ones that created his mess with the party in the first place. He’s been a blowhard for years now. If he hadn’t gotten support, he wouldn’t have been in the debate. So they helped fuel the blackmail he is using and now they are trying to sell that blackmail to other Republican voters. I refuse to be blackmailed. Just like with Obama voters, you get what you paid for. Decisions have consequences. If the Republican’s lose, his supporters have no one to blame but themselves.
 
trump’s comments are inexcusable, but his response was exactly what Fox and Kelly were going for…to either destroy the trump machine, or to set up trump to do it to himself, before Trump completely ruins any GOP chance of electing the next President…and it probably worked.

However, what is not being raised, is: if FOX wants to claim they are truly a journalistic endeavor, Kelly needs to be taken off the beat because she is now THE STORY and not merely an objective reporter.
You’re sure right about Kelly. Another thing. Right after the debate she interviewed Debbie W. The head of the Democratic Party about, guess what, women issues. I don’t respect Megyn anymore, especially since she wrote an article in Julys Cosmo about “Standing up for Yourself”. She is not objective anymore. Furthermore, her and Foxs tactics didn’t work as Trump is now higher in the polls.
 
As I understood he retweeted a comment with that characterization. I think you can call him to account for that comment. But this is a guy who routinely insults everyone. I’m not sure why calling her a bimbo would be any more offensive than calling someone a ‘fat slob’. Personally I’m less offended by Trump than Hillary’s maniacal laughing about killing people, or John McCain and most of the Republican party’s enthusiasm for the same.

The core of a party where Newt Gingrich and John McCain were frontrunners and McCain the candidate? The core of a party where they opposed forced health insurance which was a policy implemented by their last presidential candidate? I expect many Republicans to make lots of noise over this. But it is not a matter of principles.

Do any Republicans realize it was Fox News, the ‘conservative’ news channel, that was the first to make a key feature of its news programs having attractive blondes wearing above the knee skirts tell the news? The conservative news is the one most objectifying women. It is all a farce.
Yes, it was a retweet, but you only retweet things because you agree with it, unless you make it clear that you are in protest. No protest was stated so my opinion stands. I never supported McCain. I was not happy McCain got the nomination. I wasn’t thrilled with Romney either.

There is nothing wrong with blonde women newscasters.
 
As I understood he retweeted a comment with that characterization. I think you can call him to account for that comment. But this is a guy who routinely insults everyone. I’m not sure why calling her a bimbo would be any more offensive than calling someone a ‘fat slob’. Personally I’m less offended by Trump than Hillary’s maniacal laughing about killing people, or John McCain and most of the Republican party’s enthusiasm for the same.

The core of a party where Newt Gingrich and John McCain were frontrunners and McCain the candidate? The core of a party where they opposed forced health insurance which was a policy implemented by their last presidential candidate? I expect many Republicans to make lots of noise over this. But it is not a matter of principles.

Do any Republicans realize it was Fox News, the ‘conservative’ news channel, that was the first to make a key feature of its news programs having attractive blondes wearing above the knee skirts tell the news? The conservative news is the one most objectifying women. It is all a farce.
Megyn Kelly does her job; she is a lawyer. The length of her skirts is irrelevant. So are her looks. She can do what she wants with them - she knows what she is doing. Mind you, I am not saying she is Mensa material, but she can hold her own with any male journalist at Fox or elsewhere. The comment was inappropriate. Trump can’t have exchanges like that as President - that is not how you deal with conflict, people who are attacking you. What a carnival.
 
Trump I understand also said “bleeding from the eyes” or however it goes about Chris Wallace, another moderator.

The expression I think that he meant is when one is being “hateful” towards you, “seeing daggers” is an expression, “bleeding from the eyes” seems excessive.

If Trump said the same thing about Wallace, I don’t think we can assume that he was saying a vulgarity, except saying “bleeding from the eyes” sounds vulgar by itself, I had never heard that before.
 
I don’t think any questions were inappropriate, but I think they were calculated…and now Kelly has become as much a part of the story Trump has, which is unseemly for a journalist, if she continues to report on this story, or Trump at all during the rest of the campaign.
Trump made Kelly part of the story. And of course the other networks who are jealous of her success and Fox’s high ratings . Fox’s is not gonna be stupid enough to allow candidates who dislike being askedb hard questions to decide who is going to moderate their debates
 
Trump made Kelly part of the story. And of course the other networks who are jealous of her success and Fox’s high ratings . Fox’s is not gonna be stupid enough to allow candidates who dislike being askedb hard questions to decide who is going to moderate their debates
Yes, her show is very popular, not only does she win her time slot for cable news programming ( she has about 5x the views of the others shows) the only other show that beats hers in cable news for the day is O’Reilly ( and he’s a commentator not a reporter) .
 
Does anyone want a president who can’t be civil with his own prospective constituents? His cabinet should be interesting - a laptop and his own face on the big screen, that’s it. He is just a bully and, hopefully, a footnote to the 2016 campaign.
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Do we want somebody in the White House who might call the French President a frog in a fit of pique? Donald’s just the one to do it.
He’d only use frog it the president is a man. He seems to reserve comments like “ugly fat pig”, “bimbo” and the ever classy “you’d look really good on your knees” for females.
 
There is nothing wrong with blonde women newscasters.
No, nothing wrong. There is something wrong with Fox purposefully sexing up their news. There is something wrong with news shows where a woman can’t move her legs lest viewers see something they shouldn’t.
Megyn Kelly does her job; she is a lawyer. The length of her skirts is irrelevant. So are her looks. She can do what she wants with them - she knows what she is doing. Mind you, I am not saying she is Mensa material, but she can hold her own with any male journalist at Fox or elsewhere. The comment was inappropriate. Trump can’t have exchanges like that as President - that is not how you deal with conflict, people who are attacking you. What a carnival.
Obama and Holders are lawyers. Obama is even a ‘constitutional scholar’. Being a lawyer doesn’t mean much. When Greta Van Susteren, also a lawyer, moved to Fox News she had to have plastic surgery. My point is only that it is the ‘conservative’ news channel that is most concerned with beauty and in my opinion that over substance.

Bush the second called a reporter a ‘major league ***’ in his campaign. Bush was elected. The difference for me is Bush played up his Christianity. Trump is a professed Christian but doesn’t make that part of his campaign so far as I know.

This portrayal of presidents as being exceptionally civil and well mannered men goes against historical evidence.
 
Not a Trump fan but you’ve described Obama perfectly. It will be interesting to see how the next debate goes.
 
She asked a legit question as far as I’m concerned. They were all asked questions about previous statements made and given the opportunity to address them. He was not singled out in being asked about previous statements. Instead of actually having an articulate answer he make a tasteless joke and then gave an insincere answer.
Her question was legitimate per the subject of diplomacy … and Trump was given an opportunity to explain his actions. But I have some other (IMO) observations.

Megyn looked like she was being a bit self-serving with her indignation and establishing some “feminist cred” in the way she put the question in the first place … and hectored Trump in the second place (implying he insulted women beyond Rosie O’Donnell - without naming another case, thus implying, I thought, that Trump just WAS sexist).

Four years ago I wondered why the GOP candidates had out and out foes “moderating” their debates … as the questions themselves all put the candidates on the defensive and proliferated negatives about them that must be answered … while the candidates’ message got delayed, obscured or made dismissively pointless.

The Fox News “moderators” did not seem so moderate to me. I generally like Fox as the best of the news channels, but moderators Kelly, Chris Wallace and to a lesser extent Brett Baier …



… came off to me as superior, self-righteous and self-congratulatory. They were tough on some … easy on others … laughed and smiled at some answers - interrupted others with attitude.

True … tough questions OUGHT to be asked of candidates for President. But IMO with a sort of (let me call it) C-SPAN dispassionate inquiry demeanor. < True … that is more BORING than “stirring things up” and encouraging infighting amongst the GOP field (and not conducive to lucrative ratings thereafter) … but more true to the Fox mottoes of “fair and balanced …” and “we report …you decide”.

Multipronged rambling “questions” that are more like little “anti-” speeches to be rebutted, delivered in a scolding tone looks like “moderators” putting their :twocents: in and influencing the audience before a candidate can answer the question.

It’s funny too. Of the 17 candidates that spoke in Cleveland (I include the other one, earlier) … Trump is probably my 17th pick of the bunch. I am a registered Republican and could vote for one of them next year in the California primary. I SHOULD be glad then that Trump was being “taken down” for pragmatic reasons, yes? No!

The arbitrary deciding of which candidates were “varsity” and which not is another thing … but really … the GOP would have done better to have staged their own events on CSPAN and appointed their own moderators, mutually agreed upon. 🤷

nytimes.com/2015/08/08/us/politics/fox-news-moderators-bring-a-sharpened-edge-to-gop-debate-stage.html?_r=0 < NY Times uncharacteristically praised Fox for its “moderation”. The paper won’t likely endorse any of the 17, but rather, the Democratic candidate in 2016, IMO.

breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/07/trumps-poll-numbers-remain-on-top-despite-critics-debate-analysis/ < By contrast, this conservative news source critiqued the Fox moderators as being unfair to Trump.

That said, I am glad the broadcasts were made for all the glitches. Overall there was a lot of intelligence displayed between the moments of antagonism in Cleveland.

For now it seems “all about Trump” … but it won’t be. I hope there are more events like these … just a bit better done in the future. Ask tough questions … but don’t look so much like lobbyists with an agenda (“moderators”).
 
His supporters are the ones that created his mess with the party in the first place. He’s been a blowhard for years now. If he hadn’t gotten support, he wouldn’t have been in the debate. So they helped fuel the blackmail he is using and now they are trying to sell that blackmail to other Republican voters. I refuse to be blackmailed. Just like with Obama voters, you get what you paid for. Decisions have consequences. If the Republican’s lose, his supporters have no one to blame but themselves.
You are right…unfortunately it has now become the GOP 's problem, and if they don’t fix it, I fear they are finished this election.
 
Here is one good thing I have to say about Trump (I don’t personally dislike him. When I apply my reason to this situation I plainly see his inadequacy for presidency).

Because he is so well known as a celebrity he is pulling in the crowds, man, woman off the street. They commented on this in the media in terms of how many viewers (24 million) watched the debates - wondering is Trump why.

I think all this Trump hoopla is great for the GOP. It could get messy but so what - it is engaging the country much much more than Hillary Clinton is. The liberal establishment is using a walker, creaking along. The GOP is where the action is. This is a Godsend for opening people’s minds - I don’t even care if candidates fight with each other. It is a great open exchange of ideas - from every spot on the conservative spectrum. Stupid to profound, crazy to enlightened.
 
Trump made Kelly part of the story. And of course the other networks who are jealous of her success and Fox’s high ratings . Fox’s is not gonna be stupid enough to allow candidates who dislike being askedb hard questions to decide who is going to moderate their debates
No argument from me…I loathe Trump…but allowing Trump to turn the tables and make Kelly part of the story was more a result of FOX and Kelly not thinking it through, and allowing Trump to move them into Check…if not Checkmate!
 
No argument from me…I loathe Trump…but allowing Trump to turn the tables and make Kelly part of the story was more a result of FOX and Kelly not thinking it through, and allowing Trump to move them into Check…if not Checkmate!
So Kelley should’ve thrown him softball questions so that he couldn’t attack her .?
 
No argument from me…I loathe Trump…but allowing Trump to turn the tables and make Kelly part of the story was more a result of FOX and Kelly not thinking it through, and allowing Trump to move them into Check…if not Checkmate!
Come on, your strategy with a temper tantrum throwing child isn’t to just give in and let them have everything they want is it? That’s basically what you’re advocating here. The fact is that Trump is name calling cry baby whenever anyone calls him on his past behavior or disagrees with him. Giving in to him, just teaches him that’s ok which is why he’s as bad as he is now. He should have been called out loudly and consistently years ago. Maybe he’d have learned to act like a decent human being to other people.

The only reason he has gotten away with it for so long is because he’s rich and people want things from him.
 
Trump shouldn’t have said those things but let’s not forget some things MK has as well, over at the gateway pundit, I won’t link to it, it is indeed explicit as when she was on the Howard Stern show.
 
Trump shouldn’t have said those things but let’s not forget some things MK has as well, over at the gateway pundit, I won’t link to it, it is indeed explicit as when she was on the Howard Stern show.
Did she say them to Trump at the debate?
 
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