LeafByNiggle
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South Dakota is sparsely populated. And they have not gotten as many tourists from hotspots as New York or Florida.
Dr. Anthony Fauci says chance of coronavirus vaccine being highly effective is ‘not great’
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umamibella
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He is right. Also to be considered are
the vaccine will need to be sessonal
it will need to be seasonally administered on time
it will not cover all strains of the Covid 19 virus
the vaccine will need to be sessonal
it will need to be seasonally administered on time
it will not cover all strains of the Covid 19 virus
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dscath
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your inability to stay on topic, and jumping for the topic of this thread to abortion is not only irrelevant, but shows your issue has nothing to do with the efficacy of a vaccine, but a way of placing a wedge between Americans to advance your political paradigm…would be more appropriate to start a new thread on your discontent with Democrats or Planned Parenthood, because this thread has nothing to do with abortion.
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umamibella
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Yes, I agree, this is a thread about a pandemic and potential vaccines, to state the obvious.
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PaulinVA
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If it’s too good to be true, it probably isn’t.
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JanR
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Just like with the flu, if the virus mutates and keeps on mutating, then no one vaccine will be effective for all strains.
Why doesn’t Fauci wait and see what the scientists come up with, instead of spreading discouraging words in advance?
I have a problem with this guy. He tends to mouth off when he really doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Why doesn’t Fauci wait and see what the scientists come up with, instead of spreading discouraging words in advance?
I have a problem with this guy. He tends to mouth off when he really doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
LeafByNiggle
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That depends on what part of the virus is attacked by the vaccine. Some vaccines can target a part of the virus that generally does not change with those mutations. In that case, the vaccine works on all strains. Many of the the current crop of vaccines are based on new principles that are unlike what was used for the flu. So I don’t think you can assume that a vaccine for this virus is going go obsolete with every mutation of the virus.
His words were not discouraging. They were realistic, based on his knowledge of the field.
How would you know? Are you smarter than him? But if you want an example of someone mouthing off about something he knows nothing about, you need look no further than the White House.
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Caldera
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South Dakota began their annual 10-day motorcycle rally on Friday which is expected to draw 250k tourists from around the country. No masks or social distancing requirements, so we’ll have to wait a couple weeks to see how that worked out. But we already know there was no spike of infections from their July 3 celebration at least. She’s letting the people free to act responsibly.
Here’s more information from another Sky News segment yesterday:
LeafByNiggle
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Yes, they were outdoors for this one-day event. The number of them was estimated by the Trump people at 7500. This is a drop in the bucket compared to the population of South Dakota, which is 884K. So even if a good number of them got infected, it would not show up in the case count for South Dakota. What the general population does counts for much more than what either the July 3rd people or the Sturgis motorcycle rally does. Also, many of the attendees to both events were (or will be) from out of state. So if they got infected it would show up in their home states when they get sick after returning home. So don’t expect to learn anything about the effectiveness of South Dakota policy as applied to the rest of the nation any time soon.
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Caldera
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No doubt there are many South Dakota residents attending or participating in the rally (not to mention the store owners, employees, police, etc). If COVID-19 is being spread, we will see an increase of cases in the coming weeks for South Dakota. If not, it will be considered a large and successful event without requiring masks or social distancing.
I’ve tuned in to the live cams a few times the past couple days. Every once in a great while you spot someone wearing a mask, but the overwhelming majority are not. (for the record)
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Anesti33
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You twisted this topic with Trump Derangement Syndrome a mere three posts in. I’ve seen you do it on the second post. Everything for you has to be about President Trump, doesn’t it?Victoria33:
your inability to stay on topic, and jumping for the topic of this thread to abortion is not only irrelevant, but shows your issue has nothing to do with the efficacy of a vaccine, but a way of placing a wedge between Americans to advance your political paradigm…would be more appropriate to start a new thread on your discontent with Democrats or Planned Parenthood, because this thread has nothing to do with abortion.
LeafByNiggle
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That is according to which expert epidemiologist? I just showed you why the effect will be unnoticeable. The gatherings were outdoors, they were small compared to the population, and the effect, if any, will be when they go home to their home state. How many of the Sturgis riders do you think come from right around Sturgis? 30? 40? There are only 7000 people in Sturgis.
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jeannetherese
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Can’t the virus be brought in to South Dakota by motercyclists from states with lots of positives for the virus?
If it is being imported, wouldn’t we anticipate a spike in South Dakota in a few weeks?
it seems that many countries and some states have sealed borders (Canada comes to mind) to avoid having tourists bring Covid in.
If it is being imported, wouldn’t we anticipate a spike in South Dakota in a few weeks?
it seems that many countries and some states have sealed borders (Canada comes to mind) to avoid having tourists bring Covid in.
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LeafByNiggle
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They might, and we might see a spike. But if we don’t, that does not mean the measures used by South Dakota would work in other states, which was the whole point of “How do you explain South Dakota?” The answer is, there is nothing to explain.
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RidgeSprinter
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Agreed at 11 people per square mile.
Compared to the 87 people per square mile of the US.
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Caldera
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There is much more going on at this event than watching people walk up and down the sidewalks of the main strip, and not everyone attending the rally is a biker. There are 9 days/nights of scheduled concerts with many popular bands that could draw numerous people from around the state alone. So, as i’ve said, if COVID-19 is being spread during this 10-day rally, we’ll likely see a spike of infections in the coming couple of weeks for residents of SD. If not, it will go down as a large successful event without the requirement of masks or social distancing.
List of concerts for August 7-16
Tour of the Legendary Buffalo Chip
Lynyrd Skynyrd @ Buffalo Chip in 2018
LeafByNiggle
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You might very well be right. Maybe we will see a spike. But if we don’t see a spike, it means nothing, other than they dodged that bullet.
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tomarin
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It helps that it’s outside (most of the time). If there were a lot of crowded bars, that could be a problem but how many bars could there be in Sturgis?
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dscath
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Doesn’t matter what Dr. Fauci says…whether it is ready or not, my own thoughts are that the guy claiming it would be a done deal by election day, will claim it is…and perhaps Biden and Democrats are keeping it from the world!
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Caldera
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Surprisingly, quite a few. All with live bands and other daily events. (Buffalo Chip being the main venue for the big name concerts) Most, if not all, have websites if you want to look them up.
In town:
Loud American Roadhouse
The Knuckle Saloon
Iron Horse Saloon
Side Hack Saloon
(maybe more)
Campgrounds and venues:
Buffalo Chip Campground
Shade Valley Camp Resort
Kickstands Campground
Full Throttle Saloon
Ironhorse Campground
Glencoe Camp Resort
(and probably more)
The videos here were posted by a traveling RVer this past week showing off the area along with a few of the campgrounds.
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