Dr. Anthony Fauci says chance of coronavirus vaccine being highly effective is ‘not great’

[Caldera]

Maybe we will see a spike. But if we don’t see a spike, it means nothing, other than they dodged that bullet.

Is it possible to dodge COVID-19? The leftist media fear-mongered this as a potential “super spreader” event. If there isn’t a major spike, maybe it will simply confirm that mask wearing isn’t as necessary as we’ve been lead to believe. (who’s making money from all these masks anyway)

If there is a spike from this 10-day event, the real concern should be how many became ill enough to require hospitalization. (usually the elderly w/ obesity, diabetes, asthma etc.) If that happens, give Dr. Borody a call and request his newly discovered Covid-killer concoction. (see the Ivermectum vids)

Sadly, though, there’s already pushback on this well-known and cheap medicine, just like we’ve had with hydroxychloroquine.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/coronavirus-australia-sydney-doctor-claims-cheap-head-lice-drug-could-cure-covid19-and-should-be-used-now/news-story/24b930fcec5e4ef33127b13d4356b0aa

Hydroxychloroquine works in high-risk patients, and saying otherwise is dangerous - Washington Examiner

As of Wednesday, some 165,000 people in the United States have died from COVID-19. I have made the case in the American Journal of Epidemiology and in Newsweek that people who have a medical need to be treated can be treated early and successfully with hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and antibiotics...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[LeafByNiggle]

LeafByNiggle:

Maybe we will see a spike. But if we don’t see a spike, it means nothing, other than they dodged that bullet.

Is it possible to dodge COVID-19? The leftist media fear-mongered this as a potential “super spreader” event.

“Potential” means potential, not definite. If they had meant it as definite they would have said definite.

(who’s making money from all these masks anyway)

Nobody. They are cheap. And people make their own.

If that happens, give Dr. Borody a call and request his newly discovered Covid-killer concoction. (see the Ivermectum vids)

Let’s hope that his claims prove out in further trials!

Sadly, though, there’s already pushback on this well-known and cheap medicine, just like we’ve had with hydroxychloroquine.

You are confusing proper medical skepticism with unreasonable “pushback”. The article you cited shows the latter.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...sk-patients-and-saying-otherwise-is-dangerous

Typical ideological opinion piece from the Washington Examiner.

 

[Roselle]

I know the old and safe TB vaccine has received speculation in the past about being beneficial against the COVID virus. Some countries, such as Australia, have used it in some situations from what I read in the past. Saw this article the other day which seemed hopeful.

‘Striking’ evidence emerges that TB vaccine may be effective against Covid-19 — countries that use it have TEN TIMES fewer cases

‘Striking’ evidence emerges that TB vaccine may be effective against Covid-19 — countries that use it have TEN TIMES fewer cases

The world may not have to wait 12 to 18 months for a Covid-19 vaccine — scientists hope a TB shot can be adapted to fight it much more quickly. But the research so far is based on statistics, and clinical trials are still needed.

www.rt.com

 

[graciew]

Argentina to co-produce coronavirus vaccine with Mexico

President Alberto Fernández confirms Argentina and Mexico will co-produce millions of doses of a coronavirus vaccine developed by scientists at the University of Oxford and Swedish-British pharma firm AstraZeneca.

www.batimes.com.ar

It will be starting to be produced now at the Labs’ risk. It will be ready to distribute ( 150 million dosis) by the time it is approved. First quarter 2021,
If it isn’t approved , all of it will be destroyed.
Producing before approval so as to save time for all of us at the Lab’s risk.
If it helps avoid people have to go to hospital and die, that alone is worth it.
A light of hope is a light and is Hope .
Such good news…

 

[Caldera]

“Potential” means potential, not definite.

Yes, media fear-mongering prior to the event…

But now we have Biden and Harris yesterday taking it to another level:

“Every American should be wearing a mask when they’re outside for the next three months at a minimum”

“Every governor should mandate mandatory mask wearing”

“That’s what real leadership looks like” (Harris said of Joe’s comments)

Real leadership? That might be a tough sell around here.

 

[1cthlctrth]

This is another example of why those who want to force all Americans to sit in the corner in the fetal position for the next year are way out of line.

 

[Ridgerunner]

In other news, there may be another cheap but “amazingly successful” drug for COVID-19 according to this Australian professor. The combination of ivermectin, doxycycline and zinc makes it look like “corona is very simple to kill”.

My cattle ought to be fairly safe from Covid19 then. I give them ivermectin for parasites, tetracycline for pinkeye and zinc for the same. Maybe I’ll be ok too, since you can’t do a pour-on like Ivomec without getting some of it on you. It’s absorbed through the skin of cattle and probably is even more absorbable by a human.

 

[PaulinVA]

Most New DC COVID-19 Patients Didn't Attend Events, Travel

Most people recently diagnosed with the coronavirus in D.C. had no known contact with someone who had the virus and did not attend events or travel, new data from the city says. D.C.’s health director said she’s concerned about the continued spread of the virus within communities. “Many of our...

www.nbcwashington.com

 

[AlNg]

Dr. Fauci needs to speak with President Vladimir Putin and find more about the vaccine being produced by Russian scientists and medical professionals. Perhaps if Dr. Fauci would take a trip to Russia and see what advances they have made there - he might change his mind.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

those who want to force all Americans to sit in the corner in the fetal position

There are no such people.

Dr. Fauci needs to speak with President Vladimir Putin and find more about the vaccine being produced by Russian scientists and medical professionals.

There is no sense speaking with Putin. He doesn’t know anything about vaccines. And he would say whatever is best for the image of Russia, like he always does. Russian scientists might know more, but Putin won’t let them talk freely, so that is not an option either. Information is good. Propaganda, not so good.

 

[AlNg]

There is no sense speaking with Putin. He doesn’t know anything about vaccines.

President Putin or his advisors can get Dr. Fauci in touch with the Russian medical professionals who are knowledgeable about the Covid vaccine. The Americans are far behind Russia in this area and can use a little help in protecting the American populace.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

LeafByNiggle:

There is no sense speaking with Putin. He doesn’t know anything about vaccines.

President Putin or his advisors can get Dr. Fauci in touch with the Russian medical professionals who are knowledgeable about the Covid vaccine.

But as I said, he will not let they talk freely. Russia is not a free country.

The Americans are far behind Russia in this area

So far all we know is that they are ahead in propaganda. There is no evidence they are objectively ahead.

 

[AlNg]

There is no evidence they are objectively ahead.

That is why Dr. Fauci should go to Russia and see the advances they have made in developing a vaccine against covid 19.

Russia is not a free country.

Of course, as we all know from the coming elections, the USA is a free country as Americans have only two candidates to choose from: Trump or Biden. in the whole of the USA, only these two candidates could be found, and that is the choice. The American media blacks out any information on a third party candidate who attempts to present himself as a candidate.
In any event America and Russia have cooperated in space programs, so there is the possibility of cooperation in the medical field.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

LeafByNiggle:

There is no evidence they are objectively ahead.

That is why Dr. Fauci should go to Russia and see the advances they have made in developing a vaccine against covid 19.

As I said, Putin will only let outsiders like Dr. Fauci see what his propaganda machine wants him to see. There is no reason that Fauci should go running to Putin just because Putin claims something. Russia has no track record that would lend credence to their supposed superior expertise in medicine.

Russia is not a free country.

In any event America and Russia have cooperated in space programs, so there is the possibility of cooperation in the medical field.

I am not aware of any invitation by Russia to join a cooperative venture in this area. It sounds more like you want Fauci to go, hat in hand, begging Russia for favors, which of course would please Putin to no end, but would likely not benefit us. We have several vaccine candidates with reasonably good early indications. We don’t need to waste our time chasing after Russian propaganda leads that are even open to us yet.

 

[graciew]

That is why Dr. Fauci should go to Russia and see the advances they have made in developing a vaccine against covid 19.

They haven’t published the details about phases I and II. That is the phases haven’t even been completed to make it safe and the ones apparently completed are a sort of incógnita.
Not that one doesn’t wish them well, on the contrary, but from there to devoting time and attention… well there are about 165 vaccines being developed . I would pick another place if it is about traveling to find out.

Rusia anunció que comenzará la vacunación masiva contra el coronavirus en un mes

Lo confirmó el director del Centro de Microbiología y Epidemiología Gamaleya, Alexandr Ginzburg. Los primeros en recibirla serán los médicos que trabajan en la ‘zona roja'. Tanto la OMS como EEUU advirtieron sobre los peligros de aplicar un desarrollo sin el debido proceso de prueba

www.infobae.com

“Russian researchers have pre-registered phase I and phase II trials and, according to a vaccine website, these trials were completed in early August. They state that there were no adverse effects and that the vaccine triggered the desired immune response. But no detailed results have been published. It also states that it will begin a phase III trial in several countries, including Brazil, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates.“

165 candidatas, seis en la fase más avanzada: todo lo que se sabe de las vacunas contra el COVID-19

CORONAVIRUS efe Mientras el coronavirus continúa propagándose por el mundo, con Latinoamérica como epicentro de la pandemia, cientos de equipos científicos trabajan contrarreloj para encontrar una vacuna. El resultado parcial: 165 candidatas, de las que seis se encuentran ya en la fase más avanzada…

www.elpais.com.uy

“The World Health Organization (WHO) so far registers 165 vaccine candidates: about 140 are still in the preclinical stage, including two from Brazil and one from Argentina, and almost 30 have advanced to human testing.”

 

[Ridgerunner]

. Information is good. Propaganda, not so good.

To Putin and Russia, money, especially western money, is also good. If this really was an effective vaccine, he would be producing it by the carload and selling it at outrageous prices. He isn’t, which means he’s lying about it.

 

[1cthlctrth]

1cthlctrth:

those who want to force all Americans to sit in the corner in the fetal position

There are no such people.

School closings, Church cancellations, business closings, youth activity cancellations, sports…cancellations.

 

[AlNg]

Russia is not a free country.

Is the USA a free country? Who picked Kamala Harris to be the Democratic vice Presidential candidate? In the Democratic primaries, toward the end of her campaign for president, polls showed her near the very bottom of the list with 5 percent favoring her bid for President. Was Kamala Harris picked freely by the American people or freely by the American Democrats to be the vice Presidential candidate, or was it the iron fist of the Democratic party bosses which put her there?

 

[Dr_Meinheimer]

Seeing it as a Democrat vs Republican issue is horrible.

Says the guy who has done nothing but rant about Trump in a topic dedicated to immunology and a vaccine. Your inability to have a pragmatic, factual discussion without letting your nervous tick about Trump kick in really sours every topic.

 

[Caldera]

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