Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic

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I would like to know more about the split between the two dominions. Exactly who split from who? Someone told me the Roman Catholic Church split from The Orthodox Church, but I’ve always thought we both have Apostolic succession (the split from each other, equally.) What exactly was the split about, and what are out major differences in teachings/ beliefs? Thank You Very Much!!

God Bless and Happy Easter :whacky:
 
Flame4 said:
Hi,
I would like to know more about the split between the two dominions. Exactly who split from who? Someone told me the Roman Catholic Church split from The Orthodox Church, but I’ve always thought we both have Apostolic succession (the split from each other, equally.) What exactly was the split about, and what are out major differences in teachings/ beliefs? Thank You Very Much!!

God Bless and Happy Easter :whacky:
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Did anyone answer as of yet? I’d be interested to know myself. I know their Easter is usually different than ours and I never did understand that.

Thanks!

Kathy
 
Flame4 said:
I would like to know more about the split between the two dominions. Exactly who split from who?
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Well that depends entirely on who you ask my friend. 😉
Flame4 said:
Someone told me the Roman Catholic Church split from The Orthodox Church
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That would be the position of the Orthodox. Roman Catholics would say the opposite and the Oriental Orthodox would say we both split from them. :whacky:
Flame4 said:
(the split from each other, equally.)
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That is not the position of either Church.
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What exactly was the split about
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Some theology, some ecclesiology, some politics and some miscommunication.
Flame4 said:
and what are out major differences in teachings/ beliefs? Thank You Very Much!!
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Very briefly.
  • Papal Supremacy - Catholics accept, Orthodox reject. The Orthodox have no bishop with universal jurisdiction.
  • Papal Infallibility - Catholics accept, Orthodox reject
  • Filioque - Catholics accept, Orthodox reject
  • Immaculate Conception - Catholics accept, Orthodox don’t see the point
  • Purgatory - Orthodox pray for the dead but reject the Latin definition
  • Scholasticism - Orthodox view as suspect
  • Divorce - Orthodox allow under certain circumstances, Catholics reject
  • Artificial Birth Control - Orthodox allow under certain circumstances, Catholics reject
  • Legalism - Catholics are far more likely to conceive Church canons to deal with many diverse circumstances and apply those canons strictly, Orthodox are more likely to leave things to the discretion of the local bishop (economia)
That’s enough for a start. I’m sure others can add more detail. 👍

Yours in Christ
Joe
 
aloneinjax said:
Did anyone answer as of yet? I’d be interested to know myself. I know their Easter is usually different than ours and I never did understand that.
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That is another difference. The Orthodox Church still uses the Julian (or revised Julian) Calendar and the Catholic Church uses the Gregorian Calendar.

This is a very simplified explanation but after the First Council of Nicaea basically both Churches (then one Church) celebrated the Resurrection on the same day for many centuries. In the 1500’s the Roman Catholic Church adopted the more precise Gregorian Calendar. The Orthodox continued to use the older method and use it to this day.

Yours in Christ
Joe
 
josephdaniel29 said:
That is another difference. The Orthodox Church still uses the Julian (or revised Julian) Calendar and the Catholic Church uses the Gregorian Calendar.

This is a very simplified explanation but after the First Council of Nicaea basically both Churches (then one Church) celebrated the Resurrection on the same day for many centuries. In the 1500’s the Roman Catholic Church adopted the more precise Gregorian Calendar. The Orthodox continued to use the older method and use it to this day.

Yours in Christ
Joe
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How does that work, having a different Easter, with being in the general population? :confused: LoL I’m very confused. I always wondered about that. Vacations from school and work, etc. I know, unfortunately, that most places today do not close from 12-3 as they did when I was a kid but…do they celebrate Easter as we do? It really is our most religious holiday. So, is there a Good Friday in the Orthodox church?

Thanks in advance. I probably sound really idiotic.

Kathy
 
aloneinjax said:
How does that work, having a different Easter, with being in the general population? :confused: LoL I’m very confused. I always wondered about that. Vacations from school and work, etc. I know, unfortunately, that most places today do not close from 12-3 as they did when I was a kid but…do they celebrate Easter as we do? It really is our most religious holiday. So, is there a Good Friday in the Orthodox church?

Thanks in advance. I probably sound really idiotic.

Kathy
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Lent starts on a different day, and Holy Week isn’t counted as part of it, I wouldn’t say Orthodox celebrate it the same way, but it is certainly held to be the most important feast of the year.

As for not celebrating it at the same time as the general population most years it really makes no difference. Easter lilies and chocolate aren’t as easily available, but that’s rather superficial.
 
Nine_Two said:
Lent starts on a different day, and Holy Week isn’t counted as part of it, I wouldn’t say Orthodox celebrate it the same way, but it is certainly held to be the most important feast of the year.

As for not celebrating it at the same time as the general population most years it really makes no difference. Easter lilies and chocolate aren’t as easily available, but that’s rather superficial.
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Okay! Thanks a lot. Yes, the chocolate, etc. would be superficial. Do they do the Easter Bunny thing also?
 
josephdaniel29 said:
That is another difference. The Orthodox Church still uses the Julian (or revised Julian) Calendar and the Catholic Church uses the Gregorian Calendar.

This is a very simplified explanation but after the First Council of Nicaea basically both Churches (then one Church) celebrated the Resurrection on the same day for many centuries. In the 1500’s the Roman Catholic Church adopted the more precise Gregorian Calendar. The Orthodox continued to use the older method and use it to this day.
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I thought there were a few Eastern Orthodox jurisdictions that also used the Gregorian calendar?

Blessings
 
mardukm said:
I thought there were a few Eastern Orthodox jurisdictions that also used the Gregorian calendar?
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I have heard that the Orthodox Church of Finland is on the Gregorian calendar–but I am aware of no others.
 
aloneinjax said:
How does that work, having a different Easter, with being in the general population? :confused: LoL I’m very confused. I always wondered about that. Vacations from school and work, etc. I know, unfortunately, that most places today do not close from 12-3 as they did when I was a kid but…do they celebrate Easter as we do? It really is our most religious holiday. So, is there a Good Friday in the Orthodox church?

Thanks in advance. I probably sound really idiotic.

Kathy
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I’ve never had any issues taking time off during Holy Week. I would imagine most employers would be willing to make an accommodation in this case.

Pascha is by far the most important holiday of the year for us, so much so that it’s not even counted as one of the twelve major feasts. Pascha is often called the Feast of Feasts.

As far as Easter candy is concerned we normally get some great deals off the clearance isles. 😃

Yours in Christ
Joe
 
mardukm said:
I thought there were a few Eastern Orthodox jurisdictions that also used the Gregorian calendar?

Blessings
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There are several which use the Revised Julian, which for all intents and purposes is the same as the Gregorian for now, with the exception of Pascha which is always celebrated according to the old calendar, but that’s more to insure everyone in the Orthodox world is celebrating at the same time (give or take a day due to timezones).
 
Nine_Two said:
There are several which use the Revised Julian, which for all intents and purposes is the same as the Gregorian for now, with the exception of Pascha which is always celebrated according to the old calendar, but that’s more to insure everyone in the Orthodox world is celebrating at the same time (give or take a day due to timezones).
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Also, feasts and dates based on the date of Pascha (Great Lent, Pentecost, etc.) will differ from the Gregorian most years.
 
josephdaniel29 said:
I’ve never had any issues taking time off during Holy Week. I would imagine most employers would be willing to make an accommodation in this case.

Pascha is by far the most important holiday of the year for us, so much so that it’s not even counted as one of the twelve major feasts. Pascha is often called the Feast of Feasts.

As far as Easter candy is concerned we normally get some great deals off the clearance isles. 😃

Yours in Christ
Joe
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LOL about the Easter candy. Pascha? Is that something different?

Thanks!
Kathy
 
I’m laughing to myself thinking what do the Protestants think is going on in this thread. I’m praying for the reunification of the East with the West one day in our future. My hope would be once this happens, and I do believe that it will one day, an Eastern prime bishop should be elevated to papa, Pope. That’s my answer as the self-proclaimed patriarch/pope for a day.
 
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I’m laughing to myself thinking what do the Protestants think is going on in this thread. I’m praying for the reunification of the East with the West one day in our future. My hope would be once this happens, and I do believe that it will one day, an Eastern prime bishop should be elevated to papa, Pope. That’s my answer as the self-proclaimed patriarch/pope for a day.
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Yes, I hope all churches can be united one day. I think we will have the greatest effect in preaching and living the gospel that way!

God Bless
 
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