Ecumenism-Why the Euphoria and what is the Gain for Catholics?

[Traditional_Ang]

Contarini:

Many Methodists do hold this view, but it is not the view of John and Charles Wesley and not the view of the Methodist liturgical and doctrinal texts (the latter include an abridgement of the 39 Articles). While the Wesleys did reject transubstantiation, they strongly believed in a spiritual Real Presence in which believers truly feed on the Body and Blood of Christ. This, and not a purely symbolic view, is the view of the 39 Articles and of “low church” Episcopalians today. Maybe you’ve met Episcopalians who believe the Eucharist is purely symbolic. I knew one guy on the Internet who I believe held such views but he wound up leaving (and joining the Methodists, actually!). I’ve never known an Episcopalian who told me face-to-face that they didn’t believe in the Real Presence.

In Christ,

Edwin

Edwin:

John Wesley aside, the teachings of a religion are those the adherents of that religion actually follow. With Methodism, as with Episcopalianism, that’s complicated by the various brands that span the gamut from very Low Church and or Protestant to (in the case of Episcopalian) very High Church and almost Catholic. And just for good measure, you get those members who attend for the social benefit and who might not really believe much of anything at all (These are oftern called “Broad Church”).

I was refering to the very Low Church who often get vague as to what “Real Presence” means, and to the group that I’ll call the “Social Believers”.

I’m not refering to those who really believe that they are receiving the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, but who just aren’t sure how He does it.

I happen to believe that I receive the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, and that the Explanation given by the Catholic Church is the correct one for how He does it.

It is my opinion that Pope John Paul and Cardinal Ratzinger have come up with a flash of real genius bringing in the TAC as the “ANGLICAN CATHOLIC CHURCH”. It is my hope that this is accomplished in this Pope’s lifetime, and that he gets to enjoy the fruits of his labor.

In Christ, Michael

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

**[continued & ended]

Spain

As the Moslems swept through Spain in the 8th century, a great religious treasure was buried for safe-keeping in the earth, high in the Estremadura Mountains. It was a much venerated statue of Our Lady holding the Divine Child Jesus that was a gift of Pope Gregory the Great to Bishop Leander of Seville. After the overthrow of Moorish occupation, the image was uncovered in the year 1326, subsequent to a vision of Our Lady to a humble shepherd by the name of Gil. Our Lady’s very special statue was enshrined in a nearby Franciscan Monastery next to the “Wolf River.”

The Moslems, during their Spanish occupation, had actually named the river. The Islamic term for Wolf River is “Guadalupe” (Guada = River; Lupe = Wolf). Hence, the famous Catholic image in Spain has been known, since the 14th century, by the Islamic name of “Our Lady of Guadalupe.”**## I find this list of Muslim aggressions unconvincing for one simple reason - Catholics, and Christians generally, have used the very same methods. **

**Charlemagne offered the Germanic tribes a choice: be baptised - or be decapitated. **

The Moors of Granada in 1492 were offered a choice of baptism - or exile. Not at first, it must be said; but the “Catholic” kings grew impatient with the gentle and peaceable approach of Archbishop Talavera, and called in the Inquisition to hurry things along. Yet previously, there had been peaceable co-existence (convivencia) between Catholic, Muslim, & Jew. They were by no means at constant enmity.

**It’s irrelevant that Christian methods have often been used instead of these bad ones - the problem is that these evil methods were ever used at all. They are completely contrary to the nature of faith, which cannot ever be forced: they subjugate faith to political expediency, which says nothing for the quality of the Christianity of those who do such things. **
**The result is, that, not only had Islam spread peacefully as well as violently - as in Indonesia - but Christians are no position to criticise Muslims. **

Anti-Catholics will say these things, and worse, (and have) if Catholics don’t, so we might as well be aware of all the objections to Catholicism, and discuss them between ourselves, so that we won’t be at a loss when non-Christians raise them, as they are almost sure to do. There is no point in playing down the defects of Catholicism - if we do, we are going to be the more shocked when others do not. And historical truth is more important than comforting fictions. Not facing uncomfy facts, can be evidence of a fragile faith - and that would be very dangerous. As the saying goes: “Forewarned is forearmed”. ##

**

 

[Traditional_Ang]

{B} Gottle of Geer;

A request from one who is presbyopic and looking into a smaller monitor than some.

Could you please use a larger and more readable print size (such as Exporter, Contarini and Contarini).

I know that you are one who does not talk or write for the sake of writing or talking. And, even if I should have a disagreement with you, I should like to be able to read what you have to say without straining my eyes.

It may seem to be a small thing to you, but it would mean a lot to me. And, it’s probably easier than all that fancy formatting that you do.

Thank you.

Michael

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

{B} Gottle of Geer;

A request from one who is presbyopic and looking into a smaller monitor than some.

Could you please use a larger and more readable print size (such as Exporter, Contarini and Contarini).

I know that you are one who does not talk or write for the sake of writing or talking. And, even if I should have a disagreement with you, I should like to be able to read what you have to say without straining my eyes.

It may seem to be a small thing to you, but it would mean a lot to me. And, it’s probably easier than all that fancy formatting that you do.

Thank you.

Michael

Understood - is this better ? or - would this be preferable ? Some people dislike green and red - and, equally, one wants to avoid any appearance of shouting. I thought that navy blue might be dense enough to see at this size without being hard on the eyes: which would be easier ?​

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BTW - I have seen your answer to my other post, and the request there too. Would Arial black be more comfortable ? ##

 

[HagiaSophia]

Gottle of Geer:

this be preferable ?

Whatever those words are typed in is fantastically better. BTW what do all the ## signs in your posts mean?

 

[steve_b]

Traditional Ang:

Steve:

I hope you done’t mind if I butt in, but I did find something that was close to what CrusaderNY said the good Cardinal said.

Hi Michael, butt in any time. Thanks for the (name removed by moderator)ut
Traditional Ang:

Jerusalem, 21 NOVEMBER, 2001
The Jewish-Christian Dialogue: Foundations, Progress, Difficulties and Perspectives
Cardinal Walter Kasper

"Eleven years later, in 1985, the Commission published the Notes on the Correct Way to Present Judaism in Preaching and Catechesis in the Catholic Church . Here there is a concern that Judaism is not presented in Catholic teaching as being merely an historical and superseded reality. It refers to ‘the permanent reality of the Jewish people É the people of God of the Old Covenant, which has never been revoked É as a living reality closely related to the Church.’

"…This has grown gradually since his visit to Mainz, Germany, on November 17, 1980, when he referred to Jews as 'the people of God of the Old Covenant, which has never been revoked’,…

I haven’t seen anything that revolks Jews as God’s people of the OT either.
Traditional Ang:

"Therefore, the Church believes that Judaism, that is, the faithful response of the Jewish people to GodÕs irrevocable covenant, is salvific for them, because God is faithful to his promises.

It’s true that God doesn’t break covenants, and God is always faithful to His promises. Notice it says “faithful respose” to God’s covenant. When you think about it, who can really be faithful to that covenant? We know from scripture God saved people in the OT. But not many. Personally, I think Kasper was using very careful language. And he wasn’t ruling out evangelization, only proselytizing.
Traditional Ang:

“Now, presence and witness, prayer and liturgy, dialogue and social work, which are all part of evangelisation, do not have the goal of increasing the number of Catholics. Thus evangelisation, if understood in its proper and theological meaning, does not imply any attempt of proselytism whatsoever.”

lpj.org/Nonviolence/Documents/Kasper.htm

Evangelization and proselytism have dramitacally different meanings to Catholics. Proselytism suggests force which is not acceptable.
Traditional Ang:

The Torah required that there be Temple Sacrifices for it the Old Covenant to be operative. Just in case the good Cardinal hasn’t noticed, there hasn’t been a Temple Sacrifice in the Holy of Holies since 70 A.D. Therefore, the Old Cavenant hasn’t been operative since 70 A.D.

It’s a matter of simple logic.

Just for selfish reasons, I would much rather have Jewish converts coming to the CATHOLIC CHURCH than to these PROTESTANT MESSIANIC CHURCHES. I can’t see why anyone would willingly reject the quality of people, intellect and spirituality that I’ve encountered in Jewish people and Jewish Christians and not want them in our Church. Remember, I was brought bcak to the church by an Orthodox Rabbi, and I can’t help but think how many ex-Catholics this man could bring back if he were a CATHOLIC PRIEST or a PERPETUAL DEACON!

I’m currently a sponsor to a gentleman in RCIA who is married to a Jewish convert to the Catholic faith. His wife is a great friend of ours. Her previous faith was from the old sadducee branch of Judaism. They only believed in the first 5 books, the Torah. No prophets, no resurrection. That’s why they were (Sadyousee).
She loves Catholicism. I told her she is now a completed Jew.
Traditional Ang:

On top of that, I’ve never seen a Church that wasn’t actively involved in recruiting new members that didn’t sart losing the ones they already have. It’s a rule of NATURE that also applies to things of the SPIRIT. NO BODY REMAINS IN STASIS! It will either EXPAND and GROW, becoming MORE VITAL, or it will CONTRACT and SHRINK, becoming LESS VITAL!

So, if Cardinal Kasper is really planning NOT TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF CATHOLICS, then he is (unwittingly) planning to DECREASE THE NUMBER OF CATHOLICS!

Don’t worry. Catholics are committed to evangelization, just not proselytising.
Traditional Ang:

It’s really that simple.

Please, give the Catholic Church all the Jewish People who want to come to Christ, and do not discourage them. We need them and all of the gifts they will bring with them.

Remember, the first Christians were Jews, and we have Salvation because a scared little Jewish girl said, “YES” to God.

Blessings, be upon you and your household.

In Christ, Michael

I agree, and thanks for the blessing

 

[Traditional_Ang]

**Gottle of Geer - -Ê #159 **
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=420646&postcount=159

Geer:

1. Do you see that you just did what some of us were criticizing the Orthodox for doing, about the same man, no less? Can you see that you’re having to go back over 1,300 years to find a “Christian” man (who has since been repudiated for those things) who is doing what the ISLAMISTS are doing TODAY? Or, even doing what the Emperor Charlemagne did today

As Dennis Pragger and Michael medved (both JEWS) say, “Can you find similar conduct being condoned by the Church TODAY?”

1. Al Andalus (that was the Arabic name for Spain) was unique Islamic History, Because JEWS (esp.) and Christians weren’t made into “Dhimmis” in Al Andalus, except during short periods of time. They were still 2nd class citizens, but they weren’t “Dhimmis”, and that was UNHEARD of in the the Arab Islamic world.

Dhimmitude Past and Present :Ê An Invented or Real History?
BAT YE’OR
dhimmitude.org/archive/by_lecture_10oct2002.htm

The historical mistreatment of Jews under Arab/Muslim rule
by KL Thursday, Jul. 03, 2003 at 10:29 PM
sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/1624607.php

History points finger at revenge for lost Moor kingdom
By Isambard Wilkinson in Madrid (Filed: 13/03/2004)
telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/03/13/wbusy213.xml

1. Geer, again, this is over 500 years ago. Has the Church condoned the Rack and Strapado as instruments to force conversions in the far more recent past?

The Christians, then, were (Sadly) playing by the Islamic Playbook:

Jihad: The Holy War of Islam and Its Legitimacy in the Quran Ayatullah Morteza Mutahhari
al-islam.org/short/jihad/

The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS)-Palestine
Palestine:
1 Muharram 1409 Hijri
18 August 1988
library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/hamas.htm

If we go back 700 years, We get the Hindu Kush. Have you ever heard about that?

Srinandan Vyas
Hindu Kush means Hindu Slaughter
swordoftruth.com/swordoftruth/archives/miscarticles/hkmhs.html

And, How do the immoral acts done by people 500 - 1,500 years ago take away the rights of moral and decent people to speak out against and criticize things such as the following that are occuring TODAY?

SUDANESE SLAVE ‘CRUCIFIED’ BY HIS MASTER NOT UNUSUAL IN CENTRAL AFRICAN NATION
assistnews.net/Stories/s04110038.htm

Mass rape atrocity in west Sudan
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3549325.stm

Case Study: “Honour” Killings and Blood Feuds
gendercide.org/case_honour.html

March 19, 2004, 8:42 a.m.
Kristallnacht in Kosovo
The burning of churches raises questions about independence.
By Damjan de Krnjevic-Miskovic
nationalreview.com/comment/krnjevicmiskovic200403190842.asp

1. Geer, you’ve been talking about history, almost all of it at least 300 years old, and much of it more than 800 years old!

Since I was given the above links by a coalition of Jews, you can bet I’ve seen the worst that the Church (East and West) did to the Jews during the 1,600 years when the Church’s Judeophobia was at its height.

The UMMA has problems TODAY - Ask IRSHAD MANJI!

MUSLIM REFUSENIK- The Trouble with Islam
muslim-refusenik.com/

It is my opinion that non-Christians won’t be raising these issues nearly as often if they see us trying to live Godly lives following the teachings of the Church, and trying to love each other with the love of God.

God Bless.

In Christ, Michael

 

[steve_b]

## That quotation from 1969 is from before Paul VI issued *Memoriale Domini *- so it no longer has the force it had before he did so: unless you have info to the contrary ?

It suffices that the practice is allowed - and whether popes or other bishops like or dislike a practice, is of no force: they think what they wish, as we all do; what matters is whether they manifest their approval or allowance or disapproval or allowance of a thing, or not. The Christian people cannot be expected to treat a bishop’s preferences or aversions as a rule for their conduct: which is why some kind of public utterance is required, such as a motu proprio or other letter. In the absence of such things, the Pope’s attitudes are of no more weight than anybody else’s. ##

I disagree.

 

[Traditional_Ang]

## Understood - is this better ? or - would
this be preferable ? Some people dislike green and red - and, equally, one wants to avoid any appearance of shouting. I thought that navy blue might be dense enough to see at this size without being hard on the eyes: which would be easier ?

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BTW - I have seen your answer to my other post, and the request there too. Would Arial black be more comfortable ? ##

Michael,

I’m just asking you to put yourself in the shoes (or behind the eyeglasses) of someone who has to spend most of the day looking at a computer CRT that’s a little too small,and whose eyes have just about had it. So, reading your posts tend to produce some eyestrain.

I’m asking you to show a little MERCY and make it easier for me to read your posts. Thankfully, unlike a lot of Forums, the default setting on this are actually quite readable. So, in this case, it shouldn’t be so difficult, although it may take away some of your artistic license.

You can do whatever you want to do, but it would make it easier for me to read your posts if you used the default settings or just used a LARGER TYPEFACE than the # 1 (6 point) that you tend to use).

This isn’t meant to start an argument. This is only meant to make it so I can read your posts.

Blessings.

In Christs, Michael

 

[CrusaderNY]

The Catholic Leagues 2003 report of Anti-Catholicism in all forms of the media. If any ONE of these instances were anti Jew, Moslem whatever, it would be FRONT page

catholicleague.org/2003report/media2003.html

 

[steve_b]

Deacon Ed:

But Mother Teresa’s feelings do not constitute Church law nor do they define acceptable praxis.

As I can see, no one was suggesting otherwise
deacon ed:

Therefore, her feelings, while significant for herself, are not significant in terms of what the Church permits or does not permit. Further, there is no supporting evidence that this was, indeed, her feeling. The “report” from Fr. Rutler has been denied in several occasions.

1. The comment didn’t refer to what the church permits or doesn’t permit. It referred to what Mother Teresa felt about Communion in the hand.
2. If the whole story is bogus so be it.

deacon ed:

*This Rock is not an official organ of the Catholic Church. Opinions it might express are its own, not that of the Church. It is, however, quite correct that communion in the hand is an indult, an exception to law, permitted by the Church for those areas where the National Conference of Bishops have requested it in accordance with provisions laid down by Pope Paul VI. *

And that was the main point.

 

[Exporter]

Traditional Ang:

Exporter,

I thought you had read enough of my drivel that we would be familiar, as “on speaking terms”. I didn’t think that I was a stranger - I’ve been posting here a month, and most everybody’s had a chance to talk to me.

My pastor and his wife are from Texas (Anglican Priests can and usu. do marry), and they were quite upset at the 'Horns loss on New Year’s Day.

God Bless.

In Christ, Michael

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Michael. Sir… You better give your Pastor an I.Q. Test ! The Longhorns (my Alma Mater) BEAT MICHIGAN in the Rose Bowl. And you know it. I spent 5 1/2 years there in Austin.

 

[Exporter]

HagiaSophia, The few words that you told me that belonged on another thread actually did belong right where they were placed. Here is that one paragraph out of several paragraphs.
" Originally Posted by Exporter
I know at least one of you ( maybe 2) has tried to tell us the situation as it exists today, and I say thanks. But when a significant number take the Eucharist in their hands aand the remainder take the Eucharist on the tongue, that makes for disunity. I said THAT MAKES FOR DISUNITY.
And this is by HagiaSophia,
And I’d like to gently point out this is a post out of “thread context” - there is another thread on Communion Reception and perhaps this topic more properly belongs there?

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I didn’t know it would be overlooked. Crusader and I have been saying that it is better to clean your own house before you go out and try to achieve Ecumenism. The others will look at us ( and I say us, meaning all us Roman Catholics - HagiaSophia are you Roman Catholic?) and ask, “Hey the Roman Catholics can’t all sing from one page!” My reference to communion was to show lots of people disagree with me. Therefore, the whole Church is going in several directions. I used the tongue/hand to show how half of us take the Eucharist on the tongue…so that is a small deviation, do we have larger ones? Absolutly. If I am blending 2 threads together, my apologies.

 

[HagiaSophia]

Exporter:

I didn’t know it would be overlooked. Crusader and I have been saying that it is better to clean your own house before you go out and try to achieve Ecumenism.

Actually I think that is your point as I read in one of your posts, I don’t however agree that the OP has that shared opinion. But that is neither hither nor thither.

I see now what you were trying to do and I am sorry that it simply sounded as I first read it, to be going off of the thread of Why the Euphoria and What Is the Gain topic.

Exporter:

HagiaSophia are you Roman Catholic?

Yep.

Exporter:

Absolutly. If I am blending 2 threads together, my apologies.

No problem - it happens to us all.

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

HagiaSophia:

Whatever those words are typed in is fantastically better. BTW what do all the ## signs in your posts mean?

**OK Those things are just something to set off my stuff from any quotations or other matter - so that no one answers someone else while meaning to answer my stuff. **​

I’m using Georgia font size 2, in navy blue. ##

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

steve b:

I disagree.

## As is your right and privilege ##

 

[Exporter]

##Ha, HA,HA!## Don’t answer this.
Joey is the owner of a construction firm that has 35 employees. Last year he built 24 houses, turn-key jobs. He had to go back to 18 of them to make repairs Two of his employees are in jail, narcotics charges. He owes over $12,000.00 for materiels and is two months behind in his morgage.

Joey’s cousin,Mack comes to have a merger since he has the same business. Mack had one call back last year from 48 homes built and has a surplus of $70,000 in the bank.

When Mack looks at Joey’s books do you think Mack will merge or say,“So Long, Pal”
( This has to do with Our Church cleaning it’s own house first)

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

**Gottle of Geer - -Ê #159 **
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=420646&postcount=159

Geer:

1. Do you see that you just did what some of us were criticizing the Orthodox for doing, about the same man, no less? Can you see that you’re having to go back over 1,300 years to find a “Christian” man (who has since been repudiated for those things) who is doing what the ISLAMISTS are doing TODAY? Or, even doing what the Emperor Charlemagne did today

As Dennis Pragger and Michael medved (both JEWS) say, “Can you find similar conduct being condoned by the Church TODAY?”

## What of it, though ? Does that make past evils less evil ? WE may forget our sins - but does God ? Is God going to be as biassed in our favour as we are ? Can we avoid the wrath of God by pointing to the sins of others ? Of course we can’t. This “political” approach to sin is all wrong. ##

1. Al Andalus (that was the Arabic name for Spain) was unique Islamic History, Because JEWS (esp.) and Christians weren’t made into “Dhimmis” in Al Andalus, except during short periods of time. They were still 2nd class citizens, but they weren’t “Dhimmis”, and that was UNHEARD of in the the Arab Islamic world.

Dhimmitude Past and Present :Ê An Invented or Real History?
BAT YE’OR
dhimmitude.org/archive/by_lecture_10oct2002.htm

The historical mistreatment of Jews under Arab/Muslim rule
by KL Thursday, Jul. 03, 2003 at 10:29 PM
sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/07/1624607.php

History points finger at revenge for lost Moor kingdom
By Isambard Wilkinson in Madrid (Filed: 13/03/2004)
telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/03/13/wbusy213.xml

1. Geer, again, this is over 500 years ago. Has the Church condoned the Rack and Strapado as instruments to force conversions in the far more recent past?

The Christians, then, were (Sadly) playing by the Islamic Playbook:

## Exactly - those who are no better than those they criticise, cannot criticise others. Not if they don’t want sins from their own corporate history to be paraded. For the point I was making, it is irrelevant how long ago these things were done. My point did not depend on their being recent, so there may quite possibly be no comparison with the Orthodox use of the fact of Catholic evils against them. My point was that these things had been done at all - not that they were recent. ##

[continue…]

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

…cont’d, ended]

Jihad: The Holy War of Islam and Its Legitimacy in the Quran Ayatullah Morteza Mutahhari
al-islam.org/short/jihad/

The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS)-Palestine
Palestine:
1 Muharram 1409 Hijri
18 August 1988
library.cornell.edu/colldev/mideast/hamas.htm

If we go back 700 years, We get the Hindu Kush. Have you ever heard about that?

Srinandan Vyas
Hindu Kush means Hindu Slaughter
swordoftruth.com/swordoftruth/archives/miscarticles/hkmhs.html

And, How do the immoral acts done by people 500 - 1,500 years ago take away the rights of moral and decent people to speak out against and criticize things such as the following that are occuring TODAY?

SUDANESE SLAVE ‘CRUCIFIED’ BY HIS MASTER NOT UNUSUAL IN CENTRAL AFRICAN NATION
assistnews.net/Stories/s04110038.htm

Mass rape atrocity in west Sudan
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3549325.stm

Case Study: “Honour” Killings and Blood Feuds
gendercide.org/case_honour.html

March 19, 2004, 8:42 a.m.
Kristallnacht in Kosovo
The burning of churches raises questions about independence.
By Damjan de Krnjevic-Miskovic
nationalreview.com/comment/krnjevicmiskovic200403190842.asp

1. Geer, you’ve been talking about history, almost all of it at least 300 years old, and much of it more than 800 years old!

Since I was given the above links by a coalition of Jews, you can bet I’ve seen the worst that the Church (East and West) did to the Jews during the 1,600 years when the Church’s Judeophobia was at its height.

The UMMA has problems TODAY - Ask IRSHAD MANJI!

MUSLIM REFUSENIK- The Trouble with Islam
muslim-refusenik.com/

It is my opinion that non-Christians won’t be raising these issues nearly as often if they see us trying to live Godly lives following the teachings of the Church, and trying to love each other with the love of God.

God Bless.

In Christ, Michael

## I seem to recall that Christian America bombed Orthodox Serbia during Holy Week - very pious, I’m sure. ** In 1993 or so. 11 years ago. **

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**I just do not think that Christians have even the glimmer of a right to lecture non-Christians about their deeds of evil. What impresses me is just how unspeakable the Church has been at times. That said, accusations are best left with the “accuser of the brethren”. IMO, evil is far more obvious in Church history than any good. I’m not in the CC because it is holy (!) but because Christ is. **

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**We cannot evangelise others if our own hands are dripping with human blood. Non-Christians are not fools or ignoramuses - they will remind us of our sins if no one else does. Reminding others of their crimes, does not make us free of crime ourselves. **##

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

Traditional Ang:

Michael,

I’m just asking you to put yourself in the shoes (or behind the eyeglasses) of someone who has to spend most of the day looking at a computer CRT that’s a little too small,and whose eyes have just about had it. So, reading your posts tend to produce some eyestrain.

I’m asking you to show a little MERCY and make it easier for me to read your posts. Thankfully, unlike a lot of Forums, the default setting on this are actually quite readable. So, in this case, it shouldn’t be so difficult, although it may take away some of your artistic license.

You can do whatever you want to do, but it would make it easier for me to read your posts if you used the default settings or just used a LARGER TYPEFACE than the # 1 (6 point) that you tend to use).

This isn’t meant to start an argument. This is only meant to make it so I can read your posts.

Blessings.

In Christs, Michael

**## I know it wasn’t. I wanted to give you a choice of fonts and sizes so that you say which (if any) were easy on the eye. **

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It’s not easy to judge what suits someone else’s eyes, especially if one can communicate only by screen - I wear glasses myself , FWIW ##