EDITED: New translation used in any musical settings at Mass yet?

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I wonder if you really took an honest poll of both “people in the pews” and of “fallen away Catholics” whether this style of music vs traditional hyms is what people really, really like or they just put up with it because those in power all think the same and foisted it upon the masses.
Hard to say, but I do know that a parish in the area that has very contemporary music and is standing room only at every Mass on the weekends (and not a small church either)…
 
what a tradgey
I am hoping that you are acting with extreme sarcasm here. I thought the point of the liturgy was to bring people closer to our Lord that they may share in the sacraments and grow in grace. I’m just a little floored here. Either way, its beautiful to hear of a full parish, any musical aesthetics aside.

Anyway, with that said getting back on topic: Yes, my parish has integrated the non changing portions from the new mass setting, and are slowly integrating what we are allowed to do.

Pax Christi
 
Our archdiocese is using the new Sanctus and Mystery of Faith in our music already.
 
Its a tragedy to have a full and active parish? :confused:

This question is meant tongue in cheek but your post does beg the question: “do you worship God or music?”
It may be tongue in cheek but it’s a valid question. Would those same people keep coming if the music changed? I’ve had that argument in my own parish when it was said that we had to sing this Pentecostal type rah-rah stuff to keep people in our church. Since we’re the only parish within a 7 hour drive, it meant that the music was more important than worshipping God.
 
I am hoping that you are acting with extreme sarcasm here. I thought the point of the liturgy was to bring people closer to our Lord that they may share in the sacraments and grow in grace. I’m just a little floored here. Either way, its beautiful to hear of a full parish, any musical aesthetics aside.

Anyway, with that said getting back on topic: Yes, my parish has integrated the non changing portions from the new mass setting, and are slowly integrating what we are allowed to do.

Pax Christi
i’m not being sarcastic. its terrible that we must use music to keep people in the pews. if they are there for the music, they arent there for the right reason.
 
Working our way into the changes a little at a time. Responsorials have been practiced and implemented.
 
i’m not being sarcastic. its terrible that we must use music to keep people in the pews. if they are there for the music, they arent there for the right reason.
First you claim people simply “put up” with contemporary music. Then when presented with a full parish with contemporary music you decide to denigrate the people in the pews. How do you know it “keeps them in the pews”? Perhaps they would simply go elsewhere if they didn’t like the music.
It may be tongue in cheek but it’s a valid question. Would those same people keep coming if the music changed? I’ve had that argument in my own parish when it was said that we had to sing this Pentecostal type rah-rah stuff to keep people in our church. Since we’re the only parish within a 7 hour drive, it meant that the music was more important than worshipping God.
Its amazing. If the church was full and playing latin chant we’d see post after post claiming that proves people hunger for “true liturgy.” If its music we don’t like then it means that people are only there for the music.

I’m not sure how music is “more important” than worshiping God since its part of the worship of God. The tragedy here is that anyone thinks its a tragedy to have a full parish simply because one doesn’t like their choice of music.
 
i’m not being sarcastic. its terrible that we must use music to keep people in the pews. if they are there for the music, they arent there for the right reason.
Well, not everyone who comes to Mass on Sunday is as holy as me:rolleyes:. Music does move people and the words to the hymns can be instructional and through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit can lead to a deeper understanding and love of our Faith.
 
I stand corrected then with regards to composer income, perhaps its the publishers that are the lazy and greedy ones! My grumble is probably more with the lack of proofreading and quality; i’ve just discovered there are some rather good english plainsong translations that can be used, simple and effective and integrates very well with the mass perhaps with one or two more contemporary hyms for contrast.

I also wouldn’t write off everything since the 60’s as rubbish am not suggesting we all sing Bach chorales week in week out. It’s probably a subject for a different thread anyway.
 
This past Sunday we learned the Gloria and Sanctus from Dan Schutte’s Mass of Christ the Savior. The setting is okay. I guess I will like it more when I get used to it. Our music director printed out sheets of the Mass setting for each pew, and we will be using them I guess for the next few weeks. I think we might be using a different setting before or after Christmas.

It was funny because our music director said that he didn’t want to “overbear” us this week, so we used Mass of Christ the Savior for the Gloria and Sanctus, and then we flipped back to Heritage Mass for the Memorial Acclamation, Great Amen, and Lamb of God that we were doing for like a month beforehand.

The new translation will take me a little while to get used to, but I have a feeling that by the First Sunday of Advent, I will be used to it. The good thing about the new setting we learned is that it was catchy, so the congregation seemed to get the hang of it.
 
At our parish, we are singing the new translation of the “Holy Holy” and are teaching the “Gloria” to the congregation. We’ve changed the memorial acclamation as well. We’ve been told that everything will be in place Nov 27.

I sing in our Chancel Chior on Sunday and help lead the singing at daily Mass.

So far, the changes are a little awkward to sing, but we are getting used to it. Remember, we’ve been through this before in the 60’s and 70’s. We survived that and we will survive these changes, too.
 
We have been doing the new settings for about a month now. My priest got permission from the bishop for the people’s parts.
 
We have been using the new musical settings (solemn tone only) for the past couple weeks, with our archbishop’s approval and blessing
 
We (I play for our “youth” group) have been introducing the new material one piece at a time. Getting people and the choir used to it. We’ll have it all in place for Advent.
 
I just got the updated song selections that go up until Ash Wednesday, and my parish will be doing the Kyrie chant during Advent given by the ICEL, and we will use Owen Alstott’s Heritage Mass for the Sanctus, Mystery of Faith, Great Amen, and Lamb of God. For Christmas we will be using Dan Schutte’s Mass of Christ the Savior for the Gloria, Sanctus, Mystery of Faith, Great Amen, and Lamb of God. When the Christmas Season ends and Ordinary Time rolls around, we will be using Heritage Mass again for the Gloria, Mystery of Faith, Great Amen, and Lamb of God, but we will be using the Sanctus chant given by the ICEL. I’m happy that we will be doing some chant! I’m also glad that during the majority of the time we will be using a revised Mass setting rather than another new one since the new ones are too great - at least the ones by OCP.
 
Nope, and I won’t at my parish until 11/27.
Two weeks ago we introduced the new Memororial Acclamation, Amen and Lamb of God. This weekend we will introduce the Holy, Holy as well. We are practicing the new music every week and plan on using the Gloria in two weeks from now. The Kyrie Elesion will follow that. We have had a lot of support from our Archbishop and local clergy. I guess we are very fortunate. It’s gorng to happen whether we want it or not, so we might as well get on the band wagon.
 
We’ve been using it in the UK since september as others have pointed out. It’s presented a huge problem with music. The new mass settings are extremely poor and badly written leaving us **with no option but to use the traditional latin music. **
Maybe that’s the whole idea. May the other vernaculars follow suit so we all sing them (the strongly recommended and free Latin music, aka Jubilate Deo) together again. 👍
 
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