End Times Speculation XXIII (ver. 2.0)

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I want to add, too, that I have seen several people here and elsewhere that mock and poo-poo end times discussion. Based on the words of the Bible–the unerring inspired Word of God–we will be sent signs, we are to look for those signs and remain watchful. I have never seen so many disconcerting things occurring nor have I ever seen so much discussion about the end emanating from Catholics. Protestant denominations? Yes. Catholics? No.

Ostensibly faithful people like to cite the bit about nobody knowing the hour and how Christ will come like a thief in the night when it’s least expected, when things are seemingly going well. Folks, God has never unleashed a major chastisement out of nowhere in order to catch people sleeping. God is desirous of souls joining Him in Heaven. God is not an FBI agent setting up a sting! The bit about when people least expect it may be intended to signal a time when most of the few faithful and their priests have become complacement and worldly; when God is being ignored due to the worldliness of the faithful and the disbelief of so many others. So, truly, the many who are not expecting anything to happen MAY be fulfilling prophecy inadvertently by promoting a “when we least expect it it will happen. It seems like it should happen now but we would be expecting it so it won’t.”. Perhaps this is the exact attitude to which the thief in the night words apply.

A year ago, I would have laughed myself out of the room but this stuff is real and it’s scary. Demonic activity is through the roof: the Pope is demanding an exorcist in every diocese. Wars, rumors of war. Abomination of marriage. Clashes in the streets. People looking at politicians as saviors. Hurricanes, floods, tidal waves, earth quakes… There is an FSSP priest who has given several homilies or talks about Our Lady of Revelation–the videos are posted on YouTube under Sensus Fidelium. They are worth listening to. Look up Fatima, Bruno Cornacchiola or Our Lady of Revelation, Akita, Visions of Leo XIII, Pius XII…

I am not predicting a date. I am not saying the end is imminent. I am not saying times have not been grim before but this is an unprecedented time of apostasy and iniquity.
 
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I’m not sure. Is there a national Security Directive for all govt. employees , including scientists not to talk about this ? Perhaps Nibiru is not visible yet from the northern hemisphere
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Ohhh. Well THAT’S why! Didn’t your nana ever tell you that nothing good happens after midnight?

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Carmel said:
I’m not sure. Is there a national Security Directive for all govt. employees , including scientists not to talk about this ? Perhaps Nibiru is not visible yet from the northern hemisphere
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Dude, we have one of the leakiest capitols on the planet. Do you honestly think, NSD or not, that there would not be a scientist/lab monkey/secretary who wouldn’t want to embarrass the administration by showing they’ve been hiding this from the people, or that they are totally unprepared for it?

I’m always amused by people who thought George W Bush was so stupid he needed to be led to the toilet, yet somehow he was so smart that he was able to pull off the events of 9/11 without everyone knowing about it. Remember:

The total lack of evidence to the contrary is proof positive the conspiracy is working.
 
Everyone should read the prophecy of Our Lady of La Salette. There will be a LOT of blood shed before Christ’s coming. I think we have just ended or will soon be coming upon the end of the the era of Mercy. There still has to be the schism within the Church (I don’t know if its a formal schism or not) and the Three Days of Darkness (prophecized by Padre Pio and Our Lady of Akita) and the period of peace which will last about 25 years. Then will come the Antichrist and the end. I’ve gotten all my info from approved sources and approved apparitions.
 
I don’t know that I would delve that far into private revelation. The private revelations that are in line with the Book of Revelation seem meritorious while the three days and the schism…not so much, to me. Unless by schism you are thinking about an apostasy, which I think has been and is happening.
 
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venerable bartholomew holzhauser had a private revelation about the 6 (or 7 can’t remember) ages of the church and broke down parts of Revelation, and describing what would happen in the last days. He also talked of a period of peace which is in Revelation.
I do like reading about end times prophecies but don’t dwell on it. If it happens, it happens. I just thought I’d add some of my speculations since this is the End Times Speculations thread
 
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I agree with you, Luke. The idea of the rapture is a pure Protestant invention that has been around for 40 years, maybe 120 according to some sources. It’s garbage. This planet Niburu is also, in my opinion, a bizarre hoax.

What are not bizarre hoaxes, however, are apparitions of the Virgin, several accompanied by signs (most notably the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima and the ongoing bizarre blinking of the sun at Tre Fontane–videos on YouTube). Akita, La Salette, Our Lady of Good Success, Fatima, Our Lady of Revelation: She said the same thing over and over. Namely, that Satan will appear to be on the verge of winning, that there will be gross iniquity, abomination of marriage and family and that the clergy will be silent or complicit in some cases. Most frightening to me is Our Lady of Good Success: this apparition was 400 years ago, the message has been on the record for centuries and She was talking directly about our days and she mentioned priests silent when they should be the outspoken defenders of the Word (anybody here heard a homily about contraception, abortion or marriage in the last 35 years?).

I can understand battling to debunk–especially when it is coming from fellow Catholics–the Niburu stuff, Medjugore (which I think might actually be Satanic as in no other case has Our Lady been on-call and available for quick consultation with “seers”), rapture ideas, a Christ and alien combination, some sort of anti-Christ as a sorcerer, et. al. Yes, all of those notions are absolutely inappropriate and even sinful, especially for Catholics who ought to know better.

Again, if people want to get worked up they can reference the apparitions I mentioned along with the visions of Pope Leo XIII and Pius XII. Throw in Fathers Gary Thomas and Gabriel Amorth talking about demonic activity (plus Pope Francis calling for exorcist is in every diocese). If that stuff doesn’t get you to confession but a fantasy planet does then you might need to do a long examination of conscience.
 
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Every 12 years the sun rises in the constellation Virgo. HOWEVER, due to galactic precession, Virgo is not rising now at the same time as it was when the Greeks developed their zodiac. It’s been 7,000 years since the Pleiades have been above Virgo at that time, but even longer since the moon has been “under her feet”, and the three planets have joined the Pleiades to make a crown of 12 stars. IOW, an event that has never been seen by man before .
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In verse 3 Jesus indirectly answered the question “before it was asked” by giving us the first literal sign that would signify the end is near, it would come shortly AFTER the massive stones of Wailing Wall fall.
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In Ezekiel 38:18-20, when Gog begins his invasion of Israel (the War of Gog-Magog), there will be an enormous (possibly world-wide?) earthquake that would take the wails of the Western Wall down.
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the Three Days of Darkness (prophecized by Padre Pio and Our Lady of Akita)
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The Three Days of Darkness fit into a theory of Church History and End Times that teaches that the Church will follow a path like Jesus did during the Passion, which was a replay of the 10 Plagues of Egypt. At that time Egypt had 3 days of darkness during which only the Jews had lights. Jesus had His 3 days of darkness in the tomb, and so the Church will also have its “3 days of darkness”.
 
Hmmmm…Sorry to hear about your current state. Clearly I am not going to try to argue with you or anybody about apparitions. I will say that I only consider Church approved apparitions or private revelations to popes. And of those apparitions, I don’t give consideration to unambiguous prophecies. To my mind, the apparitions and prophecies I have mentioned are unambiguous and certainly much of what has been said is hapenning now.

There is a danger in thinking a lot about these things. You can risk losing faith if you study these things, get worked up and find that as the years go by things either do not change or keeping getting worse. In fact, I am getting a bit worried about that myself so I am resolving to back off on listening to or reading much more. Granted, I stick to information from people in good standing with the Church–mostly priests, in fact–but even still one has to be careful.
 
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The world still hasn’t ended. But i do think the human race needs to be humbled in some way. I sometimes hope that i wake up one day and there is a gigantic space craft in the sky. I really hope that happens.

Suddenly we would all forget our differences…or maybe we would just find new excuses to hate each-other.
 
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Hmmmm…I don’t know, Luke. One could certainly argue–as do many faithful Catholics in good standing (for now)–that it is exactly in Rome where God’s laws are being changed and saints worn out.

What is going with the JPII Institute, Amoris Laetitia, the seemingly probable reinterpretation of Humane Vitae…all of that goes against God’s laws. Even if one wants to debate contraception as being morally acceptable, the Bible is completely unambiguous about homosexuality and marriage. That those two topics are subjects of debate within Rome is not debatable. (Of the two, divorce being most obvious but several priests, including some with Vatican positions like Father James Martin, are waging battle against Church prohibitions of homosexual behaviors and marriage).

I am not a theologian but one needn’t be a theologian nor even a theist to easily understand that within the Church there are some waging war on dogma and God’s laws as stated clearly in the Bible.

To quote Pope Pious X (and no, I am NO, not SSPX):
“It is an error to believe that Christ did not teach a determined body of doctrine applicable to all times and to all men, but rather that He inaugurated a religious movement adapted, or to be adapted, to different times and different places.”.

Plenty of approved apparitions and even Popes have said that Satan is in the Vatican…take if for what it’s worth.
 
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There cannot be much more miraculous a sight than what 70k people saw at Fatima on 10/13/17. Several of these people were atheists there to mock the children and Catholics. It is not as if somebody passed around LSD or they were are all drinking or whatever–the group hallucination theory is unscientific as it gets, especially when many witnesses were hardened skeptics. Heck, you can see videos of the sun blinking at Tre Fontane on YouTube.

What happened that day at Fatima and what has happened at Tre Fontane hasn’t changed a thing, even within the Church, which approves of and believes in the apparitions. (Note that except for John XXIII every pope from Pius XII forward has gone to Fatima which says something considering where they often don’t or did not make it during their pontificates).

So why would a spaceship change anything? People would be in awe for ten minutes and then right back to life as usual. Mankind is truly as stiff necked as we have ever been. Humility is completely lacking in almost everybody.
 
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Well, I would say that at this point, yes, it does. Right off the bat, I certainly feel that Sts. Pope John Paul II and Thomas More are being trashed. We are in a period of papal positivism in which, it seems, anything the pope says is dogma, that nothing said before matters. There certainly are many saints being disregarded at the moment.

I understand your interpretation of Daniel but I am considering the Bible, approved apparitions and commentary from popes. In point a fact, attacks on the faith coming from within or without are attacks on the faith. If I were to commit an act of domestic terrorism I would still be considered to have attempted to destroy the US as the distinction of where it’s coming from is irrelevant.
 
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