End Times Speculation XXIII (ver. 2.0)

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So here is some speculation:

People (I think Muzhlk and (name removed by moderator) amongst others) have been saying that today, with the weird star configuration, there might be an event that will, in hindsight, look like it was a big step before the end. Not the end, but a big step. Now this is obviously not with hindsight, but to speculate, this could be it:

www.ncregister.com

Clergy and Lay Scholars Issue Filial Correction of Pope Francis

The initiative, the first time such a mechanism has been used since the Middle Ages, accuses the Pope of “propagating heresies” and respectfully asks that he teach the truth of the Catholic faith in its integrity.
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I don’t want to speculate about where this will go, or anything, but it seems to me a significant event. It is curious that these news got public today, with the star thing going on.

All we can do, is to pray for the Holy Spirit to guide the Church through this turbulent time without schism.
 
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Anybody here heard a homily about contraception, abortion or marriage in the last 35 years?
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Yes! Yes! And Yes!

I have been in many different parishes throughout the archdiocese and have heard these topics mentioned more times than I can recall.

I have also heard these topics – and Church teaching explained, upheld, and encouraged – while travelling and attending mass in other parts of the country.

To suggest that none of our priests are mentioning these things is a disgusting calumny.

Yes, I have heard terrible homilies that skirt along the edge of heresy – but those are SO RARE that I can actually remember the priest and deacon (one each) who gave those homilies, which parish, and when it was I attended! My poor son and mom had to hear me first rant about the terrible homily, and then explain in detail the actual teaching of the Church and where the homily was dangerously close to heresy, AND why it matters.

So many of our priests are doing their best to spread the Word. So many of our priests are speaking about these things in their homilies, and writing about it on parish websites and in weekly bulletins.

The real question is, who’s listening?

Given the long lines for confession, and the frequent availability of the sacrament in so many parishes (which I’ve seen at home and while travelling), I’d say many people ARE listening to what their parish priests ARE saying.
 
Brava! Thank you for bringing that up. I remember a couple of years ago a group of teens at Church who I guess were there for religious education.

It was lent and Father was going over an examination of conscience if great and specific detail and encouraging the kids to make a good confession.
 
Well your experience flies directly in the face of what I hear and read that most Catholics experience and I am delighted for you, sincerely. Last week at my parish I went to confession–as I do every three to four weeks–and there were, as r usual, three people in line. The homily at the following vigil mass was about how wonderful it is that the Pope is working with China to figure out pastoral care for the future which is going to include married priests. He gushed over it. Yes, China that will not allow Rome to appoint bishops, that has government sanctioned priestly ordinations, that has just issued an edict not allowing small children to attend church services, that just closed down several parishes. This is the gruel that a LOT of his get every week.

Look around the news at the bishops who get the coverage: Cupich, McElroy, diNardo: these are all men on the extreme fringe who are toeing a fine line on which the other side lies heretical positions.

P.S. At confession the priest didn’t absolve me. Instead he asked me to face him and called me scrupulous. It was unbelievable.
 
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Truly, you are blessed. I used to live in Iowa City, the home of the University of Iowa and also the home of Iowa’s longest running abortion clinic. When I was a student there I went to a Thursday night mass at the Catholic Student Center, and in the middle of the homily some drunk cursed and threw a can of beer at the building. In that place where there was so much anti-Catholic feeling, the church a block away from the CSC had confession every Saturday from 9:30 to 11. During that period, there was ALWAYS someone waiting in line. Sometimes the priest had to send someone over to the rectory to get another priest so both confessionals were operating. If for some reason I couldn’t make it Sat. morning, I’d go across town to another church where confessions were held at 3PM and Mass at 4. I soon learned that if I didn’t get there by 2 I may not get inside the confessional before the priest had to stop hearing confessions so he could prepare for Mass.

Then, I moved to Dubuque, the seat of the diocese. At the church I was led to attend, confession was held at 5PM Saturday, between the 4 and 6PM Masses. I cannot count the number of times I waited for confession but no priest showed up, or I could see the priest in the sanctuary chatting with people, clearly not prepared or planning to administer the sacrament. Two things changed that: first was getting a newly ordained priest appointed to the parish, and he actually followed the schedule; the second was when the Year of Mercy was proclaimed and people started going to confessions.
 
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Well your experience flies directly in the face of what I hear and read that most Catholics experience and I am delighted for you, sincerely. Last week at my parish I went to confession–as I do every three to four weeks–and there were, as r usual, three people in line. The homily at the following vigil mass was about how wonderful it is that the Pope is working with China to figure out pastoral care for the future which is going to include married priests. He gushed over it. Yes, China that will not allow Rome to appoint bishops, that has government sanctioned priestly ordinations, that has just issued an edict not allowing small children to attend church services, that just closed down several parishes. This is the gruel that a LOT of his get every week.

Look around the news at the bishops who get the coverage: Cupich, McElroy, diNardo: these are all men on the extreme fringe who are toeing a fine line on which the other side lies heretical positions.

P.S. At confession the priest didn’t absolve me. Instead he asked me to face him and called me scrupulous. It was unbelievable.
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I’m so sorry to hear about the troubles you’re having with the priest at your current parish. I have more than my fair share of horror stories from the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. But in the past decade, since returning to the Church, I have noticed a distinct difference.

And I will agree there are a few bishops that concern me.

But projecting that image on EVERY priest out there – “anybody here heard a homily about contraception, abortion or marriage in the last 35 years?” – is just wrong.

There are good and holy priests in our parishes.

How about supporting the good ones instead of painting all priests with the broad brush of “silent priests” who don’t “defend the Word”?
 
A Protestant colleague today was talking about planets lining up and causing problems etc.

After comet ISON I don’t feel anything for these astronomical displays.
 
I don’t think stars lining up in ways cause problems. It is just that there was a formation that reminds a lot of people of Revelation 12. So there was the suggestion that some event could happen that day. So I pointed out that something that could become big did start that day. I don’t know how it will develop, good or bad. Or if it will have end time implications or not. When St. Vincent Ferrer walked around proclaiming that the end is near, part of what was wrong was a schism.

I just know some praying and fasting for unity in the Church seems in order.
 
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When you say this what do you mean exactly? Are you saying that they are openly admitting they have SSA? If so, i think this is profoundly important for the SSA community in the Catholic Church.
 
The priests that you speak of, are they doing or saying something contrary to living chaste lives? You are saying that they are promoting homosexuality. I’m just trying to understand what you mean by that.
 
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Are the priests you speak of saying or doing anything that is contrary to church teaching?
 
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They absolutely are. They are calling for the acceptance of SS “marriage” and implying that somehow because SSA people don’t “receive” the message it’s not morally binding. In other words, whatever teachings, Commandments or doctrines we reject are not binding upon us. are not sins.
 
I am feeling stoked! I had signed up to attend a local conference on Fatima for Saturday Oct. 14. Only problem is, I’m scheduled to work on Saturday. Today someone came up and said she was going to check at home, but she’d do my Saturday shift if I would do her Sunday afternoon shift! Please, G_D, make it so!

It would be great if something spiritually special would happen worldwide to commemorate the 100th Anniversary of the Miracle of the Sun.
 
YAY! I’m going to the Fatima conference! Wish we had the animated happy dance emoticon from the old forum.

Only downer part for me is that while they’re going to have Mass at the end of the conference, the bishop requested that they make it a Marian Mass. That means it won’t count for the Sunday obligation. Which means after being at adoration until after midnight I’ll have to get up early to get to 7AM Mass, unless I want to wait until the 11AM Mass.

Decisions, decisions…
 
Jesus conquered all people. Don’t believe in doom and gloom end times prophets.
 
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