Evangelism to Muslims

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Booklover:
They deny the divinity of Christ, and make him a lesser to prophet to Mohammed! Isn’t that enough to stop defending them.
Mr. Booklover,

Because they (Muslims and Orthodox Jews as well) see no reason at all to believe in the the “divinity” of Christ, when Jesus himself has denied even in your own scriptures which are corrupted.

With all kinds of corruptions, there are side by side other things in your own scriptures that provide solid base to not to believe in any kind of divinity of Christ.

You first try to “convert” orthodox Jews, before even thinking about the monotheist Muslims. Muslims already have the Final Testament of **God’s Will ** (The Koran). Why should they look back to an old version which doesn’t even exist in pure form because what you have in your hands in the name of New testament is mostly written by unknown authors.

To claim that Muslims deny the divinity of Jesus, first you have to have an uncorrupted, authentic and unambiguous teachings of Jesus for your own sake. Once you have a solid undeniable authentic base then you can proceed towards others.

You are attributing a thing from your own to the personlity of Jesus (whose 100% pure message is not to be found), and then you start blaming others: why they don’t beleive in your myth; as if your myth is a scientific fact.

Just be in the shoes of an independent/sincere/truth-seeking person for a minute and think if there is any good reason why he should believe in your myth?

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Justice2006:
Mr. Booklover,

Because they (Muslims and Orthodox Jews as well) see no reason at all to believe in the the “divinity” of Christ, when Jesus himself has denied even in your own scriptures which are corrupted.

With all kinds of corruptions, there are side by side other things in your own scriptures that provide solid base to not to believe in any kind of divinity of Christ.

You first try to “convert” orthodox Jews, before even thinking about the monotheist Muslims. Muslims already have the Final Testament of **God’s Will ** (The Koran). Why should they look back to an old version which doesn’t even exist in pure form because what you have in your hands in the name of New testament is mostly written by unknown authors.

To claim that Muslims deny the divinity of Jesus, first you have to have an uncorrupted, authentic and unambiguous teachings of Jesus for your own sake. Once you have a solid undeniable authentic base then you can proceed towards others.

You are attributing a thing from your own to the personlity of Jesus (whose 100% pure message is not to be found), and then you start blaming others: why they don’t beleive in your myth; as if your myth is a scientific fact.

Just be in the shoes of an independent/sincere/truth-seeking person for a minute and think if there is any good reason why he should believe in your myth?

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you post absolutely the same posts everywhere it’s boring…if you want to talk about corruption, you have TWO threads not one…i think the moderator must indeed interfere with people like you…read the link given to you by Daniel and tell us : can we believe the quran is unchanged as well? start a new thread and lets discuss this as well.
 
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Justice2006:
Mr. Booklover,

Because they (Muslims and Orthodox Jews as well) see no reason at all to believe in the the “divinity” of Christ, when Jesus himself has denied even in your own scriptures which are corrupted.

With all kinds of corruptions, there are side by side other things in your own scriptures that provide solid base to not to believe in any kind of divinity of Christ.

You first try to “convert” orthodox Jews, before even thinking about the monotheist Muslims. Muslims already have the Final Testament of **God’s Will **(The Koran). Why should they look back to an old version which doesn’t even exist in pure form because what you have in your hands in the name of New testament is mostly written by unknown authors.

To claim that Muslims deny the divinity of Jesus, first you have to have an uncorrupted, authentic and unambiguous teachings of Jesus for your own sake. Once you have a solid undeniable authentic base then you can proceed towards others.

You are attributing a thing from your own to the personlity of Jesus (whose 100% pure message is not to be found), and then you start blaming others: why they don’t beleive in your myth; as if your myth is a scientific fact.

Just be in the shoes of an independent/sincere/truth-seeking person for a minute and think if there is any good reason why he should believe in your myth?

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Our myth? Islam is a myth! It’s based on the unproven veracity of Mohammed’s words. Where is your proof that Mohammmed was really visited by an angel? Where is the proof that one single word of the Quran is God’s word?

You don’t have any proof! As I’ve mentioned before, your sole proof is "because Mohammed said so! Very valid!

When I’ve mentioned absurdities in your book, you blame translators and then say the Quran is the word of God only in arabic! You’ve got to be kidding!

If you have real proof, show us! We’re waiting for your reply!

Vickie
 
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Booklover:
Because they don’t respect anyone else’s! They think they’re the only ones entitled to respect!
What do you base this conclusion upon? Although there are clearly radicals in the muslim world, every single muslim I’ve ever met was more than respectful and I’ve never had one tell me that the Pope is the anti-Christ. Can’t say the same for our fundamentalist “christian” fellows who affirm the divinity of christ but seem to have a problem with affirming the necessity of manners.
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Booklover:
They deny the divinity of Christ, and make him a lesser to prophet to Mohammed!
So do Jews. Do you think it’s appropriate to publish information and post long rants about how Jews are satanic and don’t respect anyone else’s religion? If not, why do you think it’s okay to speak about muslims this way?

I’m noticing an increasing trend towards attacking other faiths instead of trying to build common ground to get things done. Calling other people who worship the same God we do satanists and dwelling on how they are different from us helps to accomplish precisely nothing good, and I’ll list the failures:

-the “your religion is satanic” argument never converts anyone. I’ve never even heard of this tactic working.

-the “your religion is hateful!” argument is self-defeating. If we’re so loving, how come we never have anything good to say about one particular group, even though another similar religion which also denies ours is pretty much untouched (Judaism.)

Among others. This is fruitless and hurtful to the Church, because it only increases enmity and obstructs real Christian projects, like helping to reduce religious violence through understanding and promoting aid to the needy irrespective of their religious identities.
 
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pro_universal:
What do you base this conclusion upon? Although there are clearly radicals in the muslim world, every single muslim I’ve ever met was more than respectful and I’ve never had one tell me that the Pope is the anti-Christ. Can’t say the same for our fundamentalist “christian” fellows who affirm the divinity of christ but seem to have a problem with affirming the necessity of manners.

So do Jews. Do you think it’s appropriate to publish information and post long rants about how Jews are satanic and don’t respect anyone else’s religion? If not, why do you think it’s okay to speak about muslims this way?

I’m noticing an increasing trend towards attacking other faiths instead of trying to build common ground to get things done. Calling other people who worship the same God we do satanists and dwelling on how they are different from us helps to accomplish precisely nothing good, and I’ll list the failures:

-the “your religion is satanic” argument never converts anyone. I’ve never even heard of this tactic working.

-the “your religion is hateful!” argument is self-defeating. If we’re so loving, how come we never have anything good to say about one particular group, even though another similar religion which also denies ours is pretty much untouched (Judaism.)

Among others. This is fruitless and hurtful to the Church, because it only increases enmity and obstructs real Christian projects, like helping to reduce religious violence through understanding and promoting aid to the needy irrespective of their religious identities.
Ditto

Mr. inJESUS and Mr. Booklover, please read/re-read the above qoute.

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pro_universal:
What do you base this conclusion upon? Although there are clearly radicals in the muslim world, every single muslim I’ve ever met was more than respectful and I’ve never had one tell me that the Pope is the anti-Christ. Can’t say the same for our fundamentalist “christian” fellows who affirm the divinity of christ but seem to have a problem with affirming the necessity of manners.

So do Jews. Do you think it’s appropriate to publish information and post long rants about how Jews are satanic and don’t respect anyone else’s religion? If not, why do you think it’s okay to speak about muslims this way?

I’m noticing an increasing trend towards attacking other faiths instead of trying to build common ground to get things done. Calling other people who worship the same God we do satanists and dwelling on how they are different from us helps to accomplish precisely nothing good, and I’ll list the failures:

-the “your religion is satanic” argument never converts anyone. I’ve never even heard of this tactic working.

-the “your religion is hateful!” argument is self-defeating. If we’re so loving, how come we never have anything good to say about one particular group, even though another similar religion which also denies ours is pretty much untouched (Judaism.)

Among others. This is fruitless and hurtful to the Church, because it only increases enmity and obstructs real Christian projects, like helping to reduce religious violence through understanding and promoting aid to the needy irrespective of their religious identities.
According to Muslims, Jews and Christians are equivalent to faeces, urine, blood, semen, dead bodies, animals who eat filth! Do you call that respecting us?

I have never said anything about Jews! They are not threating my beliefs. Islam on the other hand is. I don’t care what anyone else believes as long those beliefs don’t threaten mine. As long as Islam continues to be a threat, I will continue to oppose it!

Vickie
 
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Booklover:
According to Muslims, Jews and Christians are equivalent to faeces, urine, blood, semen, dead bodies, animals who eat filth! Do you call that respecting us?
According to which muslims? Who said this? This seems like exactly the kind of propaganda Jack Chick spreads about the Church. Lots of rumor, innuendo, and “they do it to us!” in order to justify virulent attacks on “them”.
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Booklover:
I have never said anything about Jews! They are not threating my beliefs. Islam on the other hand is. I don’t care what anyone else believes as long those beliefs don’t threaten mine. As long as Islam continues to be a threat, I will continue to oppose it!

Vickie
How does Islam threaten your beliefs? Would you elaborate on that please?

I brought up Judaism to point out that it also denies the divinity of Jesus. He’s not a prophet to Jews even, from what I understand. So why don’t you attack Judaism as satanic and part of a campaign of lies? That was my original question there…

Since you’ve said the reason you attack Islam is that you consider it a threat, I’d be interested in hearing what about it threatens you.
 
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pro_universal said:
What do you base this conclusion upon? Although there are clearly radicals in the muslim world, every single muslim I’ve ever met was more than respectful and I’ve never had one tell me that the Pope is the anti-Christ. Can’t say the same for our fundamentalist “christian” fellows who affirm the divinity of christ but seem to have a problem with affirming the necessity of manners.
and when someone tells you that your Bible is corrupt, and that you don’t follow truth, that you are a kafir, a blasphemer, is that respect for you? thats all in their book…the quran does not respect Christians…it even mentions us by name…we, on the other hand, do not respect islam, not muslims.
So do Jews. Do you think it’s appropriate to publish information and post long rants about how Jews are satanic and don’t respect anyone else’s religion? If not, why do you think it’s okay to speak about muslims this way?
Jews did not come after Jesus insulting his crucifixion and making him and his apostles and God who keeps His words liars.
I’m noticing an increasing trend towards attacking other faiths instead of trying to build common ground to get things done.
how? if the Bible is corrupt?
Calling other people who worship the same God we do satanists and dwelling on how they are different from us helps to accomplish precisely nothing good, and I’ll list the failures:
who said muslims are satanists? islam is satanic yes…but this does not mean that muslims are satanic !! and i think you know what is meant by satanic…satanic=Anti-Christ, Anti-salvation.
Among others. This is fruitless and hurtful to the Church, because it only increases enmity and obstructs real Christian projects, like helping to reduce religious violence through understanding and promoting aid to the needy irrespective of their religious identities
as long as the Bible is corrupt, what do u expect?eveytime we talk about doctrines, hey the Bible is corrupt! fine…what are you doing here?we are nutcases who believe in a corrupt Bible and imaginary God/Jesus…so ? you tell me…
 
and when someone tells you that your Bible is corrupt, and that you don’t follow truth, that you are a kafir, a blasphemer, is that respect for you? thats all in their book…the quran does not respect Christians…it even mentions us by name…we, on the other hand, do not respect islam, not muslims.
We can have religious disagreement and discussion without disrespecting each other. Our book says those without the correct belief will perish in hellfire too. That doesn’t make Christianity antagonistic does it? The point was that we can talk with Muslims about religion without insulting their religion, yet that seems to be all anyone is interested in these days in the west where I live.
Jews did not come after Jesus insulting his crucifixion and making him and his apostles and God who keeps His words liars.
I do believe there have been Jews since day one and are still Jews now who deny the divinity of christ. Are they less wrong than the muslims just because their religious group existed before Jesus? This reasoning is simply faulty. Jews today are after Jesus, and still deny his divinity. Are you willing to write tracts on how Jews preach the words of Satan?
and i think you know what is meant by satanic…satanic=Anti-Christ, Anti-salvation.
Since I’ve asked several times and gotten no direct answer, I will ask again: By this logic, since Jews deny Christ, and are thus anti-Salvation…

Is Judaism satanic?
fine…what are you doing here?we are nutcases who believe in a corrupt Bible and imaginary God/Jesus…so ? you tell me…
I am not sure what you mean here.
 
pro_universal said:
We can have religious disagreement and discussion without disrespecting each other. Our book says those without the correct belief will perish in hellfire too. That doesn’t make Christianity antagonistic does it? The point was that we can talk with Muslims about religion without insulting their religion, yet that seems to be all anyone is interested in these days in the west where I live.
yes but to a dead end…the Bible is corrupt…thats an insult in itself…Christianity does not say muslims will be in hell, quran says Christians will be in hell…we do not accuse them or corrupting quran, they do.
I do believe there have been Jews since day one and are still Jews now who deny the divinity of christ. Are they less wrong than the muslims just because their religious group existed before Jesus? This reasoning is simply faulty. Jews today are after Jesus, and still deny his divinity. Are you willing to write tracts on how Jews preach the words of Satan?
you missed the point…mohammad claimed to confirm Jesus, Moses, the Bible, yet he opposed many of their teachings and insulted specifically Jesus…Jews, who do not believe Jesus now, is because they are born like this…they did not come 600 years after Jesus and insulted his nature and teachings…so we are interrested in mohammad who came AFTER Jesus .And am talking teachings (religion) not ordinary people.
Since I’ve asked several times and gotten no direct answer, I will ask again: By this logic, since Jews deny Christ, and are thus anti-Salvation…
they chose to reject their salvation coz they did not believe Jesus is the Messiah…it’s their own mistake…they did not come 600 years after Jesus bashing everything He did and said…so yes Jews as well refused their salvation by killing Jesus and not believing him…but the point is : Jesus saved us…mohammad., after 600 years and out of nowhere, insulted Jesus by even denying his death.
Is Judaism satanic?
no…do not confuse those who KNEW Jesus yet refused him with someone who came 600 years later denying his death, an obvious lie.Mohammad accept his own version of Jesus to give credit to his religion…so both Jews and muslims rejected their salvation and anyone who gave a different gospel and different Jesus AFTER Jesus revealed himself is an anti-Christ be it whomever he is.

I am not sure what you mean here.
 
sorry…i meant this : if muslims are so sure the Bible is corrupt, on what ground do they argue? let them say the Bible is corrupt and go away…no further space for discussion until they prove the Bible in our hands is not the same during the 6,7th century hence the same now.
 
Christianity does not say muslims will be in hell, quran says Christians will be in hell.
If Christianity does not say that muslims will be condemned, then why worry about doctrinal issues when you can spend your energy working with muslims to bring more peace and aid to the needy without arguing about whether or not either religion is more true?
Jews, who do not believe Jesus now, is because they are born like this…they did not come 600 years after Jesus and insulted his nature and teachings…so we are interrested in mohammad who came AFTER Jesus .And am talking teachings (religion) not ordinary people.
You are really stretching here. You’re claiming that it’s more evil to come long after the time of Christ and say he’s a prophet, then to deny that Jesus is divine starting from the day after his resurrection and further to try and persecute christians out of existence? This makes no sense…there’s absolutely no way by this logic of yours that Judaism, a religion which crucified Jesus and then denied him from the very day of the resurrection, would not be satanic, perhaps more so than Islam. (NOTE: I do not believe this, but I’m showing you where this reasoning of yours leads us.)
if muslims are so sure the Bible is corrupt, on what ground do they argue? let them say the Bible is corrupt and go away…no further space for discussion until they prove the Bible in our hands is not the same during the 6,7th century hence the same now.
That’s really beside the point. Like I said, no muslims I’ve met have accused the Pope of being the anti-christ who will destroy the world, yet I’ve seen you level exactly that accusation against muslims on this very board.

Who is it that really has the anger management problem here? Are you sure we’re not the ones with the difficulty?
 
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Justice2006:
To claim that Muslims deny the divinity of Jesus, first you have to have an uncorrupted, authentic and unambiguous teachings of Jesus for your own sake.
We have the uncorrupted, authentic, and unambiguous teachings of Jesus. They are contained within the Church He founded, and to which the teachings of Jesus were handed down.
 
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pro_universal:
My answer to the questions above should be clear from my posts. Now, I would like for you to answer my questions, the following being the most direct one:

Do you believe that Jews are of satan, because they teach that Jesus was not God?

To see my point, you need do no more than read Murtad’s diatribes on this thread. How productive is that? Whose life is better when “evangelism” means talking down to other people about what you want them to say, rather than what we should all do to make the world a better place?
What an absurd question. Of course I don’t believe that the jews are satan. But i do believe that their unbelief is satan inspired.
Now provide a straight forward answere to each of my questions.
 
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Justice2006:
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LatinCat:
Christ commanded that we evangelized the world
Are you reading the following a lot:
**Everyone who acknowledges me before others I will acknowledge before my heavenly Father. But whoever denies me before others, I will deny before my heavenly Father. "Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword. For I have come to set a man ‘against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s enemies will be those of his household.’ "Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever does not take up his cross and follow after me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. “Whoever receives you receives me, and whoever receives me receives the one who sent me.
Whoever receives a prophet because he is a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and whoever receives a righteous man because he is righteous will receive a righteous man’s reward.
And whoever gives only a cup of cold water to one of these little ones to drink because he is a disciple–amen, I say to you, he will surely not lose his reward.” **
Exactly, and muslims deny Christ before men by creating a false Christ, one after their own image. An idol, so to speak.
 
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Justice2006:
Ms. LatinCat,

I am afraid that, that saying of your “Lord” [if he indeed said that] is not valid anymore after the advent of Last and Final Prophet of God who is the Spirit of Truth. Because your “Lord” had many things to say to you (his followers) but you were not able/fit to receive all that he had to say. So he left that job to an another Spirit of Truth like him, to convey the whole truth. So when he came and gave us the last version of God’s whole Truth meant for the whole mankind, your “Lord’s” advice is not anymore valid.

But if you insist on your dogmas and keep busy in “prophecying” in your “Lord’s” name and “casting devils” in his name and even doing some “miracles” then…on his second coming:

Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity
. [Matthew 7:22-23]

Your “Lord” is not going to say “I never knew you: depart from me…” to the Muslims or to the Jews or…but to those who used to call him “Lord, Lord” and then prophesied in his name, and cast out devils in his name, and had “done many miracles” in his name, instead of following the Laws and Commandents of God.

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Lies wrapped in velvet.
 
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Justice2006:
Mr. Booklover,

Because they (Muslims and Orthodox Jews as well) see no reason at all to believe in the the “divinity” of Christ, when Jesus himself has denied even in your own scriptures which are corrupted.

With all kinds of corruptions, there are side by side other things in your own scriptures that provide solid base to not to believe in any kind of divinity of Christ.

You first try to “convert” orthodox Jews, before even thinking about the monotheist Muslims. Muslims already have the Final Testament of **God’s Will ** (The Koran). Why should they look back to an old version which doesn’t even exist in pure form because what you have in your hands in the name of New testament is mostly written by unknown authors.

To claim that Muslims deny the divinity of Jesus, first you have to have an uncorrupted, authentic and unambiguous teachings of Jesus for your own sake. Once you have a solid undeniable authentic base then you can proceed towards others.

You are attributing a thing from your own to the personlity of Jesus (whose 100% pure message is not to be found), and then you start blaming others: why they don’t beleive in your myth; as if your myth is a scientific fact.

Just be in the shoes of an independent/sincere/truth-seeking person for a minute and think if there is any good reason why he should believe in your myth?

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Why is it that muslims cannot have a rational discussion in these forums? Why do they repeat the same objections over and over again, even though those objections have already been answered in other threads?
 
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LatinCat:
Why is it that muslims cannot have a rational discussion in these forums? Why do they repeat the same objections over and over again, even though those objections have already been answered in other threads?
Sorry but not all muslims, only Justice! He is at it again making no sense, changing the subject and jumping all over the place, so sad 😦
 
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pro_universal:
You are really stretching here. You’re claiming that it’s more evil to come long after the time of Christ and say he’s a prophet, then to deny that Jesus is divine starting from the day after his resurrection and further to try and persecute christians out of existence? This makes no sense…there’s absolutely no way by this logic of yours that Judaism, a religion which crucified Jesus and then denied him from the very day of the resurrection, would not be satanic, perhaps more so than Islam. (NOTE: I do not believe this, but I’m showing you where this reasoning of yours leads us.)
We have two types of members of the Holy Catholic Church. Observant Christians (ie. real Christians who can understand the language of the Pope, Vatican II and Cathecism of Catholic Church) and un-observant Christians (ie. like defeated U.S. presidential candidate John Kerry).

The Vatican has to speak politically correct language as confrontational language with Protestants, Greek Orthodox and Islamists will lead to war and even riots. When the Pope speaks to a non-Catholic media he speaks in tongues (ie. unknown or ambiguous languages) which must be interpreted by the faithful who know how to interpret it.

We can never win the heart, mind, and soul of the sons of Adam if we do not have love for our enemies. We must keep the leaders of our enemies happy so they will keep their subjects happy, while at the same time we perform evangelism on Muslims.

As this is a Catholic forum, I am interpreting the words of wisdom said by the Pope, the Holy Synod and the Cathecism of Catholic Church, but I will not say so on a Islamist forum as I do not want them to know our methods of conquering the Ummah is not of this world but rather spiritual (ie. their soul and their mind must be conquered first only then their hearts can be changed).

You claim Judaism crucified Lord Jesus is baseless because the Bible never mentions Judaism. It only speaks of Jews in ethnic sense and calls these Jews as the “sons of Ishmael”. I therefore conclude Islamists are these “Jews” for the Quran is a blatant plagarisation of the Talmud, which Lord Jesus called teachings of the devil.

The State of Israel is not a government of Pharisees as it does not follow the Talmud, the basis of Quran, a book of racism. Israel is actually a Christian nation as there are many ethnic Jews who are members of the Catholic Church who worship in Hebrew language.

The Pharisees were the ones who crucified our Lord Jesus are the founders of Islamism. Lord Jesus condemned their racism to force Greeks, Coptics, Syriacs, Armenians and Geez to become Arabs. Since their false Messiah Bar Kosiba (a racist Pan-Arabist) was defeated by the Roman army they were banished from Palestine. They moved the Arabian peninsula where under their leader who was a Talmudic Rabbi named Muhammad who claimed to be the seal of the prophets, the Messiah, their rampaging mobs invaded the Roman-Byzantine Empire and conquered it all, converting the non-Arab majority to Arab by means of racist taxes like jizyah and kharaj.

Some Christians have asked me, why did our Lord Jesus allow Satan to conquer the Byzantine Empire? He did so because the citizens of Byzantine Empire rejected the Holy Catholic Church and embraced heresies like Monophysite, Nestorian, and Pan-Hellenism. So, Satanic force, Arabism conquered 22 States and today they are called the Arab League or Arab World.

In Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and Jordan many monophysite, nestorian and Pan-Hellenists remnants are embracing the true faith taught by the Catholic Church. Today, we have many Eastern Rite Catholic Churches which use Eastern liturgies, such as Coptic, Syriac, Armenian, Geez and Greek.

Sometimes I feel sad to see how Byzantine Empire was conquered by the Arab armies but I realise all this was the will of our Lord Jesus, the true God in flesh.

The three great Christian nations, namely the Egyptian nation, the Assyrian nation and the Greek nation were all conquered by the invading Arabs, Kurds and Turks with three racist Pharasaic ideologies Pan-Arabism, Pan-Kurdism, and Pan-Turkism. The fault is us Christians for we deliberately broke away from the Holy Catholic Church and became schismatic.
 
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pro_universal:
How does Islam threaten your beliefs? Would you elaborate on that please?
I am a former Muslim who converted to the Christian Catholic faith. Under the Syariah, the penal code of Islam codified in Quran and Hadith the maximum penalty for leaving Islam to death by rajm. Rajm is a form of torture still practised today in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan and Kelantan, Malaysia. Rajm generally refers to stoning to death watched by villagers on TV. Muslim mobs will shout: “Death to the traitor who left the Ad-Deen of Allah and His Apostle Muhammad” or sometimes “Death to the followers of the Great Satan, America and Israel”. Apostates from Islam are called “murtad” legally but the general Ummah considers them “Israeli colloborators paid by Mossad” as Muslims believe only Israeli colloborators will leave Islam openly so as to humiliate the Ummah.
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pro_universal:
I brought up Judaism to point out that it also denies the divinity of Jesus. He’s not a prophet to Jews even, from what I understand. So why don’t you attack Judaism as satanic and part of a campaign of lies? That was my original question there…
Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism and Buddhism all deny not only divinity of Lord Jesus but also Trinity when they refuse to confess the Nicene Creed. Yet, they are more receptive to the plan of salvation for they are relatively peaceful and do not kill former members of their faith who join the Catholic Church. These 4 religions acknowledge they do not have all the truth, which further makes evangelism of their members easier.

OTOH, Islamism teaches it has all the truth and every other way of life is false and must pay jizyah and kharaj as tribute to Islamism for being the one and only one true religion. Those who fail to pay jizyah and kharaj have the choice of converting to Islam or face beheading. Please read the Hadith, the authoritive interpretation of Quran and you will be shocked by racism practised by Islam towards non-Arab minorities like Coptic, Syriacs, Armenian, Greeks and Jews.

Islamism teaches its members to deny everything because anything not from the Islamist is conspiracy from the Israel. So, Muslims who adhere by Islamism are unable to see anything as they are trapped by the cult of Muhammad.
 
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