Then I think it appropriate to use the anti-authoritarian argument in response to you.
I’m convinced that, in terms of individual rights and liberty, China is no better than the fascist/ communist systems you referred to.
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Good for Governor Kemp. Then it seems evictions should not be a major concern. Neither should foreclosures, at least not to the degree of the more draconian, almost authoritarian shutdowns in states like New York and California
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Buks
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Stepping toward it includes when enough citizens decide that working harder doesn’t decrease the insecurity of their housing and healthcare situation. IMO we may be at a point where the government should do something to help the little guy pull himself up, for his sake and the sake of the republic. I don’t want him voting for candidates who, say, solve his healthcare dilemma but meanwhile bring in a rotten agenda on key moral issues (I know, I know, “good luck with that!”…).Regular_Atheist:
Difficult, but not impossible. The key is to oppose the steps that lead toward it.
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Dovekin
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Yes, that is how the system works. The House and the Senate each pass a bill, then a conference committee constructs a compromise that can pass both houses. Generally each side asks for more than the other side will accept, see The Art of the Deal. Obviously more has developed that leads to discussions about possible bills in advance, but the basic out line is there.
In this situation, the Senate has been unable to come up with a bill that could gain majority support. The Republicans are split, and they are unable to work with Democratic Senators for a variety of reasons. Some fault lies with the Democrats, but it is largely fractures in the Republican party that has kept legislation from passing the Senate.
I will pass on relaying gossip about Mitch McConnell to counter your remarks about NP. I do not see the point beyond affirming that your “logic” is based an an antipathy to Democrats.
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Horton
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Give up on that bill already. It’s dead. The Dem’s never intended it to pass the Senate, it was just one more manipulation on Nancy Pelosi’s part. Nancy P et al. are the ones who are insisting on adding a bunch of stuff into this bill that has nothing to do with the virus. She is holding the American people hostage because she does not care.
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Dovekin
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It is the Republicans holding America hostage because they cannot agree on a bill. If you have evidence to the contrary, I might listen, but the House cannot do anything until the Senate moves on it. The Speaker has little she can do about it.
So these situations call for moving toward authoritarianism and away from freedom?
We have spent tens of trillions of taxpayers dollars with that intent over the last 50+ years.
Government is incapable of doing this effectively or efficiently.
Here it is: vote for people who will regard article 1 section 8 and the 9th and 10th Amendments as their guide to good government. Then call on the universal church to respond to Christ’s call that we help the least of His children.
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Horton
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Once again, that bill is dead. It is NOT being considered. There is a new bill that Nancy is negotiating with Steve Mnuchin. It is THAT bill Nancy is holding things up. At this time the Senate has nothing to do with it.
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ProVobis
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Depends on what the stock market does, doesn’t it? 7 trillion dollars were made available last time the market dropped 40%. Where’s the incentive when the markets are at their highs?
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graciew
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Some Chinese people complain: expensive housing in or near main cities, expensive healthcare…Some… they are millions and millions so I don’t know how everybody thinks obviously…
Sometimes I think it is more of the grass is greener somewhere else…if you are American, I don’t know…
And there is this big difference between cities and the rural small towns.
One sees all this technology and then people ploughing by hand, old ploughs.
It is a land of contrasts. Ancient and new…Beautiful and nice and friendly people as well, of course.
Sometimes I think it is more of the grass is greener somewhere else…if you are American, I don’t know…
And there is this big difference between cities and the rural small towns.
One sees all this technology and then people ploughing by hand, old ploughs.
It is a land of contrasts. Ancient and new…Beautiful and nice and friendly people as well, of course.
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Feanor2
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“Well if the tenants were a little smarter with their money maybe they wouldn’t have gotten evicted.”
The Rightist attitude.
The Rightist attitude.
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Buks
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I wouldn’t say stopping the super wealthy (including Chinese) from buying up our housing, or different healthcare (like, say, France or Taiwan or Switzerland or ??) is either authoritarianism or less freedom.
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Grigsby
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Here in England, our government has directed the courts not to hear any eviction hearings, which effectively bans evictions for the time being. This is perfectly reasonable and I say this as a former lettings agent.
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Zzyzx_Road
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I would hope that with the bans on evictions, that they’re going to extend some sort of relief all the way up the chain.
Many landlords have mortgages that have to be paid regardless of whether the rent is getting paid. Landlords often have other expenses that won’t be waived. Like insurance, maintenance and property taxes. Perhaps property management as well if they engaged one of those outfits. Think state and local governments will waive property taxes if their own cash flow is hurting? I have a bridge to sell you. Think the insurance company will cover the property owner if premiums are stopped but a big loss is taken? There’s another nice bridge over yonder. Think that tenant will be nice when the toilet is overflowing or the kitchen range stops working?
If the moratorium goes on long enough, the landlords operating on thinner margins will eventually find their cash drained. Then bankruptcy? But who’s going to buy the property off their hands if the rental revenus stream has no assurance behind it?
Many banks are servicing multiple mortgages for residential owners and investors, and commercial buildings. If a sufficient number of mortgages aren’t getting paid, what can happen to this bank or that?
Hence this is at best a temporary stopgap. They can print money, but they can’t print the economy. So efforts have to be focused on getting the economy going again. But that is still being hamstrung hard thanks to the still draconian measures of many governors. For something that killed less than 9000 persons under 50 years old per the CDC, yet we’re still holding them down.
Many landlords have mortgages that have to be paid regardless of whether the rent is getting paid. Landlords often have other expenses that won’t be waived. Like insurance, maintenance and property taxes. Perhaps property management as well if they engaged one of those outfits. Think state and local governments will waive property taxes if their own cash flow is hurting? I have a bridge to sell you. Think the insurance company will cover the property owner if premiums are stopped but a big loss is taken? There’s another nice bridge over yonder. Think that tenant will be nice when the toilet is overflowing or the kitchen range stops working?
If the moratorium goes on long enough, the landlords operating on thinner margins will eventually find their cash drained. Then bankruptcy? But who’s going to buy the property off their hands if the rental revenus stream has no assurance behind it?
Many banks are servicing multiple mortgages for residential owners and investors, and commercial buildings. If a sufficient number of mortgages aren’t getting paid, what can happen to this bank or that?
Hence this is at best a temporary stopgap. They can print money, but they can’t print the economy. So efforts have to be focused on getting the economy going again. But that is still being hamstrung hard thanks to the still draconian measures of many governors. For something that killed less than 9000 persons under 50 years old per the CDC, yet we’re still holding them down.
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Victoria33
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Over in Taiwan, when stimulus packages were discussed, one of their legislators said “The government is rich”, how our situation is in regards to that, I can not answer.
I think preventing Or allowing foreign nationals from buying American property is legitimately under the control of the general government.
Preventing Americans from buying American property is authoritarian.
This is absolutely authoritarian. It turns the right to healthcare into a government power.
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AlNg
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it doesn’t make sense to say that the tenant does not have to pay, but nevertheless the landlord has to pay the taxes, the repairs and the utilities.
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PaulinVA
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Putting a hold on evictions with no plan to help pay rent/mortgages is just postponing the inevitable.
Most people will never be able to pay six months back rent or whatever.
Most people will never be able to pay six months back rent or whatever.
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Zzyzx_Road
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Amen.
Can’t print the economy. Actually have to do something to get it going again so that these people might be in a better position than ending up on the streets anyway.
At least end the lockdowns for the under 50 crowd. That includes the colleges. Let people choose their own level of participation rather than having it forced on them. That would be a start.
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