Evidence against Hydroxychloroquine

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ImQuiet said:
That is definitely false. HC has been linked to liver and heart problems as a long-term side effect.
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Those are listed as a possible side effects just like the damage to the retinas. I have liver disease and yet I take it with no ill effects to my liver. My Gastroenterologist has no problem with me taking it and he is a specialist in liver disease. If were so dangerous to the liver do you think my liver doc would let my Rhumy doc prescribe it for me?
 
I attribute today’s firing of the vaccine chief because he dared to tell the truth about this drug. As the nation plunges down the rabbit hole
 
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ImQuiet:
That is definitely false. HC has been linked to liver and heart problems as a long-term side effect.
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Those are listed as a possible side effects just like the damage to the retinas. I have liver disease and yet I take it with no ill effects to my liver. My Gastroenterologist has no problem with me taking it and he is a specialist in liver disease. If were so dangerous to the liver do you think my liver doc would let my Rhumy doc prescribe it for me?
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You were presenting that as HC’s only long-term side effect, which is incorrect. I’m not a doctor, I have no idea how I would go about prescribing medicine to you. I’m listing what I know, which is that HC has more side effects than eye damage, and of particular note has been linked to heart and liver damage.
I’m in agreement with you, and I’m not trying to marginalize your situation, I’m just stating what I know.
 
Xystus said:
He owns cheering a potential treatment for a world wide pandemic? Wow, what a terrible thing.
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TDS was not a terminal condition before now. It is now potentially terminal, not for those who have it but for those whom they deprive of a treatment some have found efficacious because they hate Trump.
 
Ridgerunner said:
for those whom they deprive of a treatment some have found efficacious because they hate Trump.
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Or because they know Trump. But then I can’t read minds like Hannity or Limbaugh.
 
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ProVobis said:
Or because they know Trump.
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From what I have seen on CAF and the MSM, I would say leftists have no more understanding of Trump than they do of the speed of photons 121 feet up from the center of Betelgeuse.

But they do know one thing quite well. His actions are prolife, and for that he cannot be forgiven.
 
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The study was not a clinical study, check the details. We have been deceived.
But, as it turns out, that study is not all it’s cracked up to be. There are a few factors that the media should pay more attention to.

"It’s not a clinical study," Wilike explained. "It was done on a small number of veterans. Sadly, those who were in the last stages of life, and the drug was given to them."
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So that’s that.
 
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The drug should not be touted by the president that it is safe and viable. Fox should not push the same position either.
And the head of our vaccine research should not have been fired by Trump for giving his opinion about the drug.
The nation is placed in danger by these acts
 
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Maximus1 said:
The drug should not be touted by the president that it is safe and viable. Fox should not push the same position either.
And the head of our vaccine research should not have been fired by Trump for giving his opinion about the drug.
The nation is placed in danger by these acts
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People have been saved by this drug combination. Enough said.
 
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Xystus:
you do realize that Trump was not the person to come up with the idea to use Hydroxychloroquine, dont you?
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Everything is political with some. I think they are shocked and tired about losing, when they think they should be winning (politically). So they nitpik to score wins.
Imagine a middle school mentality.
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Sorta like Republicans were “The Toddler Party” for 8 years of Obama. Just stamping their feet, screaming “NO”.

I guess we’re all equally guilty, right?
 
Why? Because it contradicts the report?
Because the head of our vaccine research was fired because his vast knowledge contradicted the president’s hunch?
 
" Trump was not the person to come up with the idea?"
What difference if anyone realizes that? Trump discussion is limited to Trump involvement. Try it
 
sloancaprice said:
Is there any evidence besides anecdotal evidence that this drug combination has worked? It seems like the results for the more systematic studies show that it has no effect.
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An experienced doctor, Zelenko has touted it highly.

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forward.com

It must be said, there are a number of stories of it saying lives, the hydroxy-zinc combination. We must realize that we may have lost lives if it had not been used.

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www.chicagotribune.com

I have seen stories on this of patients recovering, quickly. It isn’t as if the CDC and FDA are the definition of efficiency and medical knowledge.

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abc7chicago.com

Another story:

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It wasn’t until she was given hydroxychloroquine, a drug used to treat Malaria, that things started looking up.

“After I started taking the Malaria medicine, I started to feel a lot better,” she said. “Like, the next day.”
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sloancaprice said:
That’s all anecdotal evidence. Are there any systematic studies that show positive results?
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How long does it take to do a peer reviewed study. How many people will die in the meantime to fulfill the need to have something that is beyond a Doctor’s own experience?

We already see the testing that has been touted as so great was among a small group in their last stages of life. So, there is a systematic study.

It would obviously be wrong to have an effective drug but in the meantime, people die because it has not been totally verified.

And again, some are not big fans of the FDA or CDC.
 
sloancaprice said:
It seems like initial studies are coming out that do not show any benefits. Are you aware of any systematic studies that show positive results?
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I’ve stated my position. We have a number of stories of this helping patients recover. I don’t know if they have helped them escape death. We probably can’t know that for certain.
 
The opinion," it would be wrong," is based on what? Feeelingsss! Wow wow wow feelings?
This advocacy you are addressing advocates this drug why?
 
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