Evil Harry Potter

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Bithynian said:
satanic conflagration when she read aloud “advada kedavra”.
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That’s because the correct spell for that is Fiendfyre, not Avada Kedavra.

It was used by Crabbe in the last book. He was unable to control it and it destroyed the Room of Requirement.

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Fiendfyre

Fiendfyre, or the Fiendfyre Curse (Pestis Incendium),[1] was a powerful and dangerous curse that conjured an extremely volatile and sentient enchanted fire that spread rapidly, and incinerated nearly everything upon physical contact. The fire could also take the appearance of gigantic magical...
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Do you feel insulted? Why? To sell the idea that one could cast a spell or call upon supernatural powers not of Christ, is wrong. And those who buy-in only show how their Christian Life takes a back seat to other ideas. Why is this insulting?
 
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tgGodsway said:
Do you feel insulted
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More incredulous than insulted, I would say.

I cannot imagine why one’s Christian faith should be threatened by a children’s book. It’s not as if J.K Rowling invented the concept of magic. Nor is she the only one ever to write about humans casting spells.
 
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The Bible does not call our appetite for the unseen world, “fiction.”. It warms God’s people to steer clear.
 
One will either obey God’s word or disobey it. The apostle Paul said “take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ…”. Not every thought we entertain should be defended.
 
Salibi said:
I cannot imagine why one’s Christian faith should be threatened by a children’s book. It’s not as if J.K Rowling invented the concept of magic. Nor is she the only one ever to write about humans casting spells.
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Further to your agreeable point, I think an underlying issue is a lack of familiarity and understanding of art, whether literature, music, painting, etc.

I don’t want to enter into a debate about whether Harry Potter is “art” or even “good” children’s literature, but some people in this thread are picking the most insensible modes of analyses: cherry picking highly specific and contextual Scriptural passages, making leaps and bounds of logic, and then reaching the most extreme conclusions.

Compare another example: Pope Benedict’s favourite music is Mozart, and he identified amongst his favourite works The Magic Flute: an opera filled with magical spells, magical bells and a variety of magical creatures. He said of Mozart’s music that it “penetrated our souls, and his music still touches me very deeply, because it is so luminous and yet at the same time so deep.”

I can’t imagine Joseph Ratzinger Sr and Maria Ratzinger throwing a score of the Magic Flute out the window and admonishing the young Pope Benedict that such music is a gateway to demonic possession.
 
Good

Cute and cuddly is a superpower of its own.

Who needs wands and magic?
 
angel12 said:
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VanitasVanitatum:
What was it’s redeeming feature?
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Jason Momoa. 😍
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Times 10. Plus some awesome CGI 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
This is a very serious charge. Clearly Sarcelle was NOT attempting / intending to summon demons.

As stated again and again on this thread already, within the fictional confines of the Harry Potter universe, wizards are born with innate powers…there is no conjuring of spirits…and, again with the confines of the story’s fictional “rules”, regular human beings are not able to use these spells to levitate objects.
 
tgGodsway said:
Do you feel insulted? Why? To sell the idea that one could cast a spell or call upon supernatural powers not of Christ, is wrong. And those who buy-in only show how their Christian Life takes a back seat to other ideas. Why is this insulting?
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But why do you keep suggesting that Rowling is trying to sell the idea that one can cast spells? She has said as much as that she doesn’t believe such a thing is even possible or that her ‘spells’ actually work in terms of genuinely controlling or summoning occult powers.

The Bible shows numerous instances of people worshipping false gods. Some at least not apparently being punished or suffering bad consequences for so doing. Is it therefore a gateway to demonic possession (false gods being demons) which must be avoided?
 
Magic in art dates pretty far back. You have Medieval epics like the Arthur Saga, for instance. There were probably some elements in there of older, Celtic folklore, but I can’t imagine anyone reading about Merlin is going to suddenly join the nearest Wicca commune. And, of course, there grew to be a pretty considerable admiration, particularly during the Renaissance, for Greek and Roman mythology.

Far more recently was the sort of Nordic “reawakening” of the late 19th century. Sadly, with the rise of the Nazis, who co-opted it to their own ends, it has come to have a dark side, but I still find Wagner’s Ring Cycle pretty amazing. But I can’t imagine anyone walked out of Der Ring des Nibelungen believing in Odin, dwarfs or Valkyries. Probably they walked out completely fatigued and deaf.
 
Wife.of.Gabriel said:
k. Thank your guardian angel for his valiant protection and go receive the Sacrament of Reconciliation because even attempting as a joke to call a demon to levitate yourself or objects is a sin directly against the First Commandment in the OT 10 Commandments & in the NT 2 Commandments.
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You’re joking here, right?
 
Sadly, I don’t think that she is and it is truly a shame that she isn’t joking!

She even posted herself that J. K. Rowling, using her own words, said that it was fake, yet she has chosen to think only the worst and says that the spells are real.

I think she is giving the devil way more credit then he deserves!
 
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The Bible does not call our appetite for the unseen world, “fiction.”. It warms God’s people to steer clear.
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In all my years (don’t ask), I have never seen such a complete, and completely peculiar, misunderstanding of fiction.
Amazing.
 
I pass judgment on no one, that’s not my job. This web site is, Catholic, who tolerate protestants and others. I simply offered a biblical point of view on a Catholic web site. That’s it. Don’t be so bothered since you claim to be agnostic. Why should my comments be such a threat to you? I think you are confusing “rude” with blunt and straightforward.

May God’s rich and full mercy be yours all the days of your life.
 
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Fiction implies made up. I’m sure the story-lines and the actual publication and production of Harry Potter has no literal reality in the lives of those involved. But certainly the ideas themselves have been around since the days of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden with the talking snake. The ideas are ancient and very real.
 
I offered no personal put down. I offered no pronouncement of judgment or hell. I offered no personal criticism. I attacked no one. I simply offered a biblical perspective on the subject of Harry Potter material. I simply showed how the bible cautions us about these ideas calling them evil.
 
LilyM said:
The Bible shows numerous instances of people worshipping false gods. Some at least not apparently being punished or suffering bad consequences for so doing
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I’m not sure exactly what bible story you are talking about. But idolatry was a huge big deal in the O.T. It kept God’s people from experiencing a quality life. Think about it, to worship a created thing, rather than the creator of all things, how insane is that?
 
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LilyM:
The Bible shows numerous instances of people worshipping false gods. Some at least not apparently being punished or suffering bad consequences for so doing
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I’m not sure exactly what bible story you are talking about. But idolatry was a huge big deal in the O.T. It kept God’s people from experiencing a quality life. Think about it, to worship a created thing, rather than the creator of all things, how insane is that?
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What Bible have you been reading?

The pagan Egyptians had a very high quality life - that’s why lots of the Israelites preferred being kept as slaves under them and resented having to wander and suffer hardships in the desert with Moses. Despite what the Egyptians did suffer, the Israelites had it much worse.

Following God means a quality afterlife, with no guarantees about this one!
 
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