Evolution and Darwin against Religion and God

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Good, now define “species”.
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Loss of a reproductive function once had.
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Um, species can still reproduce. They don’t lose reproductive function.

Unless that’s just really poor phrasing. But unfortunately for Creationists, “species” is a very human concept. In the real world, it’s a lot muddier. Some populations classified as separate species do reproduce, and some populations WITHIN the same species cannot produce viable young. Some genuses maintain gene flow, while others do not. Some species are 'ring species", where either end of the range cannot reproduce, but the intermediaries can.

Species is a very convenient concept, as long as you understand its limits. And if you’re going to assert that speciation has not happened, then you are wrong.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html
 
That your notion of species is your own, and has nothing to do with either biology or reality.
 
Allow me to be more specific. They are still finches. Is that suitable enough?
 
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That your notion of species is your own, and has nothing to do with either biology or reality.
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Hello, I am using the biological definition for species not my own. It is a fact, speciation is defined by the inability to reproduce. The loss of a function once had.
 
There are two birds in the United States. They look identical but cannot breed with each other. One is on the east coast, the other on the west.
 
Dan_Defender said:
Remind your kids that this is a theory, not proven fact.
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MysticalMiracle said:
Evolution isn’t only theory
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This is a complete misunderstanding of scientific terminology, or to quote Scientific American (possible paywall):
Part of the problem is that the word “theory” means something very different in lay language than it does in science: A scientific theory is an explanation of some aspect of the natural world that has been substantiated through repeated experiments or testing. But to the average Jane or Joe, a theory is just an idea that lives in someone’s head, rather than an explanation rooted in experiment and testing.
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Thanks for reminding me. I should have said supported theory.
 
The point being is that there has been no change whatsoever.
 
Sure there has, and analysis of Galapagos finches genomes demonstrates it.
 
No change of kind ever recorded, but there is adaptation the theory is wrong it’s thought in catholic schools that we evolved ourselves not by God creating us
 
I was shown a video every day for 6 years that we are made from stars and that we evolved from stars hitting the earth which is completely against Gods creation story
 
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Yes, but what if it? One of the greatest evolutionary biologists of them all was Theodosius Dobzhansky, an Orthodox Christian
 
i will some this whole conversation up no man who professes to know the truth about the workings of the world and does not believe in God holds the truth!
 
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