EWTN Tridentine Mass

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I actually agree with you Caesar. I just like to get a rise out of people and start them thinking a little. God Bless…
Caesar said:
Not this again…

The answer is that we must give God our best in all ways. To say that worshipping Him in a worthy manner detracts from living in His presence in everyday life is one of the most laughable things I have ever heard.

Just as it would be hyprocritcal to give God honor through a beautiful Liturgy, with ornate vestments and grand churches while neglecting our duties to the doctrines of the Church, it is also hypocritical to perform those duties while neglecting the proper worship of God.

We give God our best. And this extends into the Mass. Read the scripture relevant to Solomon’s Temple.
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Scotty_PGH said:
It offends the modernist’s sensibilities, and that is a GOOD thing for the Church! 👍
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It has nothing whatsoever to do with modernism. You’re injecting an obvious red herring.

Some may consider the church to be overdone (I prefer Byzantine or Romanesque), but it certainly surpasses most other worship spaces constructed at about the same time. I love the fact that the interior of the tablernacle is solidly encrusted with diamonds for the Eucharistic King. No one sees it, but Him.
 
Caesar said:
Not this again…

The answer is that we must give God our best in all ways. To say that worshipping Him in a worthy manner detracts from living in His presence in everyday life is one of the most laughable things I have ever heard.

Just as it would be hyprocritcal to give God honor through a beautiful Liturgy, with ornate vestments and grand churches while neglecting our duties to the doctrines of the Church, it is also hypocritical to perform those duties while neglecting the proper worship of God.

We give God our best. And this extends into the Mass. Read the scripture relevant to Solomon’s Temple.
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I certainly agree with this.
 
Magnificent Mass.

Brilliant Homilist.

Great, great, Church!

Beautiful Vestments…

Thank God for EWTN. Mother Angelica is a miracle.
 
JKirkLVNV said:
It has nothing whatsoever to do with modernism. You’re injecting an obvious red herring.

Some may consider the church to be overdone (I prefer Byzantine or Romanesque), but it certainly surpasses most other worship spaces constructed at about the same time. I love the fact that the interior of the tablernacle is solidly encrusted with diamonds for the Eucharistic King. No one sees it, but Him.
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Perhaps it does to you, based on your own personal taste. That in no way proves your assertion though.

Diamonds, huh? God made plenty of them. But a guy named Cecil Rhodes (the guy behind DeBeers Consolidated Mines and the former Rhodesia) gained control of the best diamond mines (using slave labor) and put an artificial hammerlock on their supply while creating one of the best marketing campaigns ever – “a diamond is forever” (in an attempt to quell used diamond sales) artificially driving their price through the roof.

And lining a tabernacle with diamonds pleases God? How?
 
Satriale said:
Perhaps it does to you, based on your own personal taste. That in no way proves your assertion though.

Diamonds, huh? God made plenty of them. But a guy named Cecil Rhodes (the guy behind DeBeers Consolidated Mines and the former Rhodesia) gained control of the best diamond mines (using slave labor) and put an artificial hammerlock on their supply while creating one of the best marketing campaigns ever – “a diamond is forever” (in an attempt to quell used diamond sales) artificially driving their price through the roof.

And lining a tabernacle with diamonds pleases God? How?
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Because it gives Him our absolute best.
 
Satriale said:
Perhaps it does to you, based on your own personal taste. That in no way proves your assertion though.

Diamonds, huh? God made plenty of them. But a guy named Cecil Rhodes (the guy behind DeBeers Consolidated Mines and the former Rhodesia) gained control of the best diamond mines (using slave labor) and put an artificial hammerlock on their supply while creating one of the best marketing campaigns ever – “a diamond is forever” (in an attempt to quell used diamond sales) artificially driving their price through the roof.

And lining a tabernacle with diamonds pleases God? How?
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Kings presenting God with Frankincense, gold and myrrh pleased him how?
 
Satriale said:
I’m not an iconoclast, but I know gauche design when I see it. The interior of that building is catalog-architecture at its worst.
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St. Peter’s Basilica must really turn your stomach too then.
 
Scotty_PGH said:
Kings presenting God with Frankincense, gold and myrrh pleased him how?
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Gold has intrinsic value. So does incense. Outside of its use as a cutting abrasive, diamonds have little, were it not for Mr. Rhodes.
 
Satriale said:
I’m not an iconoclast, but I know gauche design when I see it. The interior of that building is catalog-architecture at its worst.
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I have to agree that that… thing they lowered at the end of Mass to reveal the blessed sacrament was a bit tacky, but I don’t really feel that anything there is too mismatched. There’s a bit too much white for my taste - I feel it contrasts badly with the dark mahogany, but other than that I think it looks great…
 
Satriale said:
Diamond’s ain’t God’s best unless we use their artificially inflated market price as the gauge.
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The point is that we value them and we give them up entirely to him. I’m sure he’s touched by it (if God can be touched).
 
Everything about that Shrine’s design is thoroughly and traditionally Catholic. If it looks gauche or weird to some people, it’s because they are used to seeing very un-Catholic structures posing as Catholic for far too long.
 
Dauphin said:
I have to agree that that… thing they lowered at the end of Mass to reveal the blessed sacrament was a bit tacky, but I don’t really feel that anything there is too mismatched. There’s a bit too much white for my taste - I feel it contrasts badly with the dark mahogany, but other than that I think it looks great…
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You’ll notice I never commented on the price, or the workmanship. Just the design. More specifically the floor and the furnishings.

I think it should have been designed to look a lot more like the Church of San Damiano in Assisi (as it does on the outside) and less like a building that was furnished largely by pouring over expensive catalogs.
 
Scotty_PGH said:
Everything about that Shrine’s design is thoroughly and traditionally Catholic. If it looks gauche or weird to some people, it’s because they are used to seeing very un-Catholic structures posing as Catholic for far too long.
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That’s where you are wrong. It’s not thoughtfully designed. It pulls together many very expensive furnishings in a very disjointed and non-harmonious manner. This is not a matter of poor style (traditional or otherwise) but a matter of abysmal execution.

To be blunt, it sorta looks like a fairly loud and expensive ice cream shoppe.
 
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