Ex-Catholics are not experts of Catholicism

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I’m not spewing hatred I’m just stating the facts. The core doctrines of Protestantism, both Sola fidelis and Sola Scriptura were not believed by anyone until the so-called reformers made them out of whole cloth. The idea that the Eucharist is just a symbol is still another belief that didn’t spring up for 1500 years.

The thousands and thousands of Protestant denominations have absolutely no history before the 1500s. Either Christ was the author of confusion or he founded one church only-theHoly Catholic Church
You don’t know what you are talking about. You are merely stating the cookie cutter version of what Catholics have to say about Protestantism as a whole. Truth is, many Protestants believe much of what the Roman Catholic church teaches. Other Protestants do not. To merely say that all Protestants believe in sola scriptura and a symbollistic communion is just showing your ignorance.
 
Protestantism toss away Real Worship by throwing away the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist. They teach false doctrines.
 
Protestantism toss away Real Worship by throwing away the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist. They teach false doctrines.
Odd that I never learned that in my Methodist confirmation classes. I guess they just wanted to keep the dirty secrets from us so we would join their false church,eh?

We learned very similar things that are taught in Catholic classes but not some of the more, shall I say exotic beliefs.
 
Odd that I never learned that in my Methodist confirmation classes. I guess they just wanted to keep the dirty secrets from us so we would join their false church,eh?

We learned very similar things that are taught in Catholic classes but not some of the more, shall I say exotic beliefs.
Let me put it this way. Not all your Protestants believe in the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist. There are some of your faiths that affirm it.

They turn real presence as Symbolic.
 
Let me put it this way. Not all your Protestants believe in the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist. There are some of your faiths that affirm it.

They turn real presence as Symbolic.
Well, I have always believed in the Real Presence as I was taught in a Protestant church. But you are correct, some don’t believe in that.

What I don’t believe is transubstantiation.
 
Well, I have always believed in the Real Presence as I was taught in a Protestant church. But you are correct, some don’t believe in that.

What I don’t believe is transubstantiation.
It is this mere fact that I do not trust Protestant doctrines. According to their brand of theology, you can believe whatever you want.
 
It is this mere fact that I do not trust Protestant doctrines. According to their brand of theology, you can believe whatever you want.
That’s just not true at all. The articles of faith are published and available through a Google search.
 
This thread, partially due to my participation, has deteriorated into a flame war. I apologize to anybody I offended and apologize for helping derail the thread. Goodnight
 
That’s just not true at all. The articles of faith are published and available through a Google search.
Really? Then why do all Protestant Churches have different beliefs? Not all of them have a unified set of beliefs.
 
Really? Then why do all Protestant Churches have different beliefs? Not all of them have a unified set of beliefs.
For the most part they don’t vary all that much. Catholicism isn’t exactly unified. SSPX ring a bell?
 
Really? Then why do all Protestant Churches have different beliefs? Not all of them have a unified set of beliefs.
That is not true at all Manny. You know good and well that Catholics have many different beliefs on what the Eucharist really is and if they should venerate Mary or not. Saying that the church in Rome holds one belief does not coagulate the people, nor would it in any other church.
 
Ex-Catholics are not experts of Catholicism,that’s true.
Take a deep breath and pray that the Lord will fill you with His understanding.
You notice that when a couple breaks up they have a lot to say about the other person. And it’s usually not good. So just think of it in the same way. They are EX-Catholics ,your question should be why? Find out why they left. And if you don’t agree with what they say just remember that you are not them. You have no idea what is in their heart. They feel just as strongly about what they believe is the truth as you feel about the Catholic Church.
Remember to be a Christian is to be a follower of Christ.
Christ is Love.
 
i wish i had a dollar everytime i heard someone say…“i know about catholism, i went to a catholic school for x amount of years”.
 
Ex-Catholics in this forum persumed to know and understand the Catholic Church. However, they do not. If they did understand the Catholic faith they would never leave in the first place.

Ex-Catholics are just another clone copy of Martin Luther.
  • Christianity 101: adhesion to Christ is not based on knowledge, but on faith - & both of those, like all other goods, on the Tri-Une God.
  • But for the grace of God, no-one would or could persevere in the Christian Faith, in any of its forms - for perseverance is not founded on having knowledge, but on being constantly sustained by the grace of God Who is Alone Steadfast & Sure & Constant & Reliable.
  • Left to ourselves, there is every reason why we should fall away from Christ, & from His Body (however thought of), & no reason at all why we should persevere.
  • Even to have faith - as much as having it, living by it, being sustained in it, & persevering in it to the end - is a gift of God for the sake of His Son; & is not due to any man whatever.
  • There is no reason why former Catholics should not be very well-informed in Catholicism. If they are not, what is the value of assertions about non-Catholic Christianities & religions made by Catholics who formerly followed them ? A Catholic who becomes a Baptist or Muslim or atheist, is as entitled to be taken for an honest man as any Catholic converted from another faith. If we disbelieve those who leave us purely because they do so, why should we believe those who join us ?
    Your suggestion makes faith in Christ into a mere human project, based on human strength, human power, human ability. But who needs Christ for what we have ample power to do ourselves ? This is naturalism - at least Protestantism is not naturalism, but very insistent on faith & on Christ. Heresy is better than this, because this is undiluted paganism. I’d choose Luther over this every time - he said a lot of things the Church needed to hear.
There is no reason why the same bad reasoning your suggestion stands upon cannot be applied to ex-Protestants. Maybe Scott Hahn was ignorant of Presbyterianism, & became Catholic for that reason. Neither absurdity is more implausible than the other.
 
That is not true at all Manny. You know good and well that Catholics have many different beliefs on what the Eucharist really is and if they should venerate Mary or not.
Catholics who believe anything different than what the Catholic teaches on faith and morals are heretics.
Saying that the church in Rome holds one belief does not coagulate the people, nor would it in any other church.
The Catholic Church does. Read the Creed, the Bible and the Catechism. That is what we believe,.
 
Catholics who believe anything different than what the Catholic teaches on faith and morals are heretics.

The Catholic Church does. Read the Creed, the Bible and the Catechism. That is what we believe,.
Then your church is full of heretics! I know many Catholics who believe that the bread and wine are still bread and wine when they receive it. They vote for pro choice candidates and haven’t been to confession in years.
 
Then your church is full of heretics!
Those who do not obey are heretics.
I know many Catholics who believe that the bread and wine are still bread and wine when they receive it. They vote for pro choice candidates and haven’t been to confession in years.
They are heretic and when they die, they will go to hell.
 
They tossed out the Eucharist(among other things) and created doctrines unheard ofin the preceding 1500 years- doctrines unsupported by either Scripture or tradition. And having done such a great job they continued to split and split and split into thousands of different denominations with dueling doctrines.
Excuse me protestant expert.
Which “doctrines unsupported by either scripture or tradition” are you referring to? and Since there are so many protestant denominations,could you be more specific as to which ones have these “doctrines unsupported by either scripture or tradition”?
Just list the top ten please.
And I do pray that the Holy Spirit is your guide.
 
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