WOW! Now that you have a presented little bit of “the rest of the story” your accusation has some validity and believability. As I said in a previous post, when limited to one side of the story - especially something as unusual and terrible as your experience - most people will be skeptical and dismiss your experience as a fabrication by someone that is bitter. But with the scales of justice being balanced with, at least a portion, of the other side - the whole picture is changed.
You are the first person I have met who has been so dismissive.
I do apologize for being insensitive to your horrible experience but do appreciate you sharing more.
Apology accepted
The reason we have a judicial system, where the plaintiff and defendant are represented, is to hear both sides of the issue. If a prosecutor where to take a case to court and not who up for the hearing, the judge would throw the case out - having only one side represented. Your comment was presented to the court of public opinion and now that both sides are being represented - the scales of understanding are more in balance.
A plaintiff and a prosecutor are two different things. Let me add a little more. I was in law school at the time and worked for the chief judge as a bailiff. He and the DA tried very hard to convince me to file charges for attempted kidnapping. I was President of the Latter Day Saints Student Association at law school when this happened. I left the organization.
I have never heard of an experience in the LDS church like yours. I hope you can understand my skepticism when I read your blog about the Mormon church (or members) trying to kidnap your children. As I said in a previous response (and I mean it sincerely), I hope their was some civil action you could take against those who made the attempt. With your addendum, I’m sure I would stand with your bishop and those other LDS who were brought to tears. I can only speak for myself that I would probably make a tremendous scene - even at church - if I was aware of such a situation.
I was very afraid at the time. I was seldom home as I was in law school full time and worked fulltime. My wife, who I met as an LDS missionary in Honduras, did not speak English. My children were very young. I was very much afraid of retaliation.
For those of you who would believe when only one side is heard, I say that you are the insensitive bystanders. It is easy to show compassion for one who has been dealt with unjustly, but what about the person that dealt the injustice? Are they guilty? Are there circumstances that may change, or soften, your indignation? Why do they feel so threatened that they would have to stoop to such a radical act? Whatever happened, for the presentation on this blog, there are more questions than answers. It is the underlying questions that make me skeptical when hearing something so outrageous. Outrageous, not because this person did not experience what they said - but outrageous because of the act of attempted kidnapping.
I was told it was because I was no longer a fit father for Mormon children.
I have to chuckle (I guess I do that a lot when I hear such as the following post) at kimg901
“It didnt even happen to me and im mad. And as for “this guy”, man I would love to meet
him and see if his god/prophet saves him from my wrath (words of course ). Its obvious
to me he doesnt understand the meaning of the word liar. I guess he knows everything
about everyone and doesnt need to be polite.”
- I have a friend that is a truck driver and they have an expression for those who get on the CB and tell someone that has offended them that if they pull over they will get the h__ beat out of them. They don’t even know what highway the person is on and it would be a very stupid trucker that would pull over - not knowing what they will be dealing with. They call them CB Rambos. (Actually, that did happened quite a few years ago and the challenger got out of his truck and was shot to death - it is my understanding, the shooter was never caught. Stupid! Save me from your wrath? It really doesn’t take much for you to become “mad”, does it? This wasn’t even your experience and you’re “mad” - I have this picture of you running around spitting venom for every outrage you observe.
and I have a picture of a person who believed when I said what happened to me and saw you treat me as if I was a liar and then came to my defense
- Here is where you prejudice is really transparent. This man was never accused of being a liar.
Actually, you did. Oh, you never used the words…but you absolutely did.
I don’t know any of you and non of you know me. Blogging has great limitations in the communicative process. When two people have a discussion face-to-face, effective communication is very complex and difficult. We tend to hear what we want (filtering those things that do not fall into the slots of what we believe and justify those beliefs) and reject (or attack) what we reject. Typically we do not listen to understand but speak to be understood - wars have been fought because of this kind of lack of understanding.
Then, when a third party is thrown into the process, the difficulty is increased exponentially; and the more that are thrown into the effort of communicating, the more the risk of miscommunication and misunderstanding. The end result is often times anger, threats, and fear of being wrong.
How can a Christian ever expect to have peace in the world when they are not willing to practice peace within their own faith?
and how can there be peace when you come into a forum and call people liars and belittle others who defend them? Just sayin
. I once questioned which of the two are true, but I read multiple writings from early church fathers and there was no doubt in my mind what-so-ever that The Catholic Church is true. If you ever need any apologetic links, I know a few amazing ones 
). Its obvious to me he doesnt understand the meaning of the word liar. I guess he knows everything about everyone and doesnt need to be polite 
