Exclusive: Carson claimed West Point 'scholarship' but never applied

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Jeanne_S said:
Yeah,well he never should have been elected in the first place had he been vetted properly.Which was the point I was making.Having said that,Hillary will just be a third Obama term.
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He’s not the topic of this thread.

Jim
 
Zoltan_Cobalt said:
The Politico has lost every shred of credibility with this last lying “hit piece” against an honorable Republican candidate. Other news services that jumped on this story without verification have made fools of themselves.

This is why more people TRUST Fox News.
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Darryl1958 said:
Abortion has indeed been an effective means to control the population of black in America.
Planned Parenthood is the frontline.
There indeed is no war on women. There is a war on fetuses.

Evolution has been a very effective tool of the devil that has turned many away from Christ.

We either have a choice in our sexuality, or all of our choices are determined by our hormones and our physiology.

Sexists and Nazis must be born that way too, if free choice is such a small thing in who we are.

America is one of the least racist countries on the planet.

People who would never vote for any Republican would never vote for Ben Carson on that account.
But he will not lose the Republican vote on account of standing up for free will, and God, and the right of even black babies to be born.
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Do you believe Ben Carson would agree with you on all these points, including those on evolution and sexuality?
 
Zoltan_Cobalt said:
The Politico has lost every shred of credibility with this last lying “hit piece” against an honorable Republican candidate. Other news services that jumped on this story without verification have made fools of themselves.

This is why more people TRUST Fox News.
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Right. Is that why 51% of Republicans think that President Obama is not an American citizen?
 
Good_Tidings said:
What are the untruths of epic proportions.
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Still in question,his place of birth
Still in question his questionable associations from his mentoring by Frank Marshsll Davis,Bill Ayers,Bernadine Dorn
Need I mention Jermiah Wight:eek:
Still won’t hand over HIS grades
Etc,etc…
the point being this guy was given a complete pass on thing that really should matter,yet the race to get him into the White House took precedence over the fact ,was he actually up to the job.
After eight years,we know the answer:cool:
 
meltzerboy said:
It means I don’t think too highly of politicians and Ben Carson is learning the ropes with regard to what it means to run for the highest office, that is, playing the role of politician.
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Actually,that part I understood,I don’t know what you mean by saying you hope he is a prominent and successful surgeon?
 
Jeanne_S said:
Actually,that part I understood,I don’t know what you mean by saying you hope he is a prominent and successful surgeon?
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Ah, you noticed that part. Well, I actually hope the media do not begin to question that aspect of his life so that we can at least be sure of his medical credentials.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
He’s not the topic of this thread.

Jim
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The only reason Obama is in this discussion is he is a glaring example of how the leftist media picks and chooses who and what to criticize.Add to this the fact that he too is black and was given a pass on all manner of discrepencies re his resume,not to mention innumerable gaffes,I believe he serves as a very apt comparison re this thread.
 
Jeanne S
Still in question,his place of birth
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Solved. His birth certificate has been authenticated and he was indeed born in Hawaii.

Besides, because his mother is a born US citizen, it makes Obama a citizen and eligible for president.

If not, then Ted Cruz has to drop out of the race. But of course conservatives aren’t questioning the fact that he was born in Canada, because his mother is a US born citizen.
Still in question his questionable associations from his mentoring by Frank Marshsll Davis,Bill Ayers,Bernadine Dorn
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Bill Ayers is so disconnected to Obama it isn’t even worth mentioning.
Need I mention Jermiah Wight:eek:
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Of course Wright’s videos were clipped and taken out of context.

Oh wait, you give Carson the benefit on this, but not Obama.
Still won’t hand over HIS grades
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Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard. That title alone says what grades he got.

Carson also hasn’t released his grades from Yale, because he too graduated Magna Cum Laude and that honor says the type of grades he got.

But again, this thread isn’t about Obama, he isn’t running for re-election.

Hope this helps. 🙂

Jim
 
Zoltan_Cobalt said:
The Politico has lost every shred of credibility with this last lying “hit piece” against an honorable Republican candidate. Other news services that jumped on this story without verification have made fools of themselves.

This is why more people TRUST Fox News.
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They do? How would such a thing as “trust” even be measured? The are as slanted as any outlet and more so than some, from my perspective.
meltzerboy said:
It means I don’t think too highly of politicians and Ben Carson is learning the ropes with regard to what it means to run for the highest office, that is, playing the role of politician.
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That should be of greater concern than this West Point allegation. I really can see how this could have been an innocent misunderstanding.

Oh, and what is all this useless obsession with Obama? I though everyone knew he is no longer eligible to run.
 
Jeanne_S said:
Still in question,his place of birth
Still in question his questionable associations from his mentoring by Frank Marshsll Davis,Bill Ayers,Bernadine Dorn
Need I mention Jermiah Wight:eek:
Still won’t hand over HIS grades
Etc,etc…
the point being this guy was given a complete pass on thing that really should matter,yet the race to get him into the White House took precedence over the fact ,was he actually up to the job.
After eight years,we know the answer:cool:
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Even Tom Brokaw admitted that there was no vetting.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Jeanne S

Solved. His birth certificate has been authenticated and he was indeed born in Hawaii.

Besides, because his mother is a born US citizen, it makes Obama a citizen and eligible for president.

If not, then Ted Cruz has to drop out of the race. But of course conservatives aren’t questioning the fact that he was born in Canada, because his mother is a US born citizen.

Bill Ayers is so disconnected to Obama it isn’t even worth

Oh wait, you give Carson the benefit on this, but not Obama.

Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude from Harvard. That title alone says what grades he got.

Carson also hasn’t released his grades from Yale, because he too graduated Magna Cum Laude and that honor says the type of grades he got.

But again, this thread isn’t about Obama, he isn’t running for re-election.

Hope this helps. 🙂

Jim
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Wrong,Obsma and BillAyers and B D are still connected
Don’t think his BC has been authenticated,however based in the fact that his mom was a citizen,fine,that may be a non issue.
Jerimiah Wright association for well over twenty years.If and that is a big IF the videos were edited ,what the public heard was incriminating enough and no way to spin the intent.Much like the planned Parenthood videos.
If he is such a smarty pants,why not disclose the grades?
You know what I think is really going on here,is the left is scared to death that Ben Carson,if he should get the nomination,may very well be elected.This would then expose what an abysmal failure BO had been.They can’t allow him to be upstaged by another black man.
 
Jeanne_S said:
Still in question,his place of birth
Still in question his questionable associations from his mentoring by Frank Marshsll Davis,Bill Ayers,Bernadine Dorn
Need I mention Jermiah Wight:eek:
Still won’t hand over HIS grades
Etc,etc…
the point being this guy was given a complete pass on thing that really should matter,yet the race to get him into the White House took precedence over the fact ,was he actually up to the job.
After eight years,we know the answer:cool:
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We must have a different recollection. I remember those points being covered ad nauseum. And still are for that matter.
 
Jeanne_S said:
Wrong,Obsma and BillAyers and B D are still connected
Don’t think his BC has been authenticated,however based in the fact that his mom was a citizen,fine,that may be a non issue.
Jerimiah Wright association for well over twenty years.If and that is a big IF the videos were edited ,what the public heard was incriminating enough and no way to spin the intent.Much like the planned Parenthood videos.
If he is such a smarty pants,why not disclose the grades?
You know what I think is really going on here,is the left is scared to death that Ben Carson,if he should get the nomination,may very well be elected.This would then expose what an abysmal failure BO had been.They can’t allow him to be upstaged by another black man.
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As a liberal (I prefer this term to leftist or progressive since I’m from an older generation), the only thing I “fear” about Carson’s being elected is that he may not be qualified for the job. I have a similar fear regarding Trump. It is not, however, that I believe Obama is the most qualified but probably more so than either Carson or Trump. For this leftist (liberal) at least, the comparison of two black men, which you mention, is of little consequence. And I have no personal stake in Obama’s legacy.
 
Jeanne_S said:
Wrong,Obsma and BillAyers and B D are still connected
Don’t think his BC has been authenticated,however based in the fact that his mom was a citizen,fine,that may be a non issue.
Jerimiah Wright association for well over twenty years.If and that is a big IF the videos were edited ,what the public heard was incriminating enough and no way to spin the intent.Much like the planned Parenthood videos.
If he is such a smarty pants,why not disclose the grades?
You know what I think is really going on here,is the left is scared to death that Ben Carson,if he should get the nomination,may very well be elected.This would then expose what an abysmal failure BO had been.They can’t allow him to be upstaged by another black man.
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Ayers and Obama are not friends nor associates. Ayers ran a fund raiser many years ago and Obama showed up at it. That’s pretty much the extent of their relationship.

Obama’s birth certificate was authenticated by the state of Hawaii.

Wright’s videos were in fact edited and when he was interviewed, the cut out portions made his statements take on a completely different meaning.

The left is not afraid of Carson winning the GOP nomination. He’ll be torn apart by Hillary campaign staff and especially in a debate, if she wins the democrat nomination.

Trump probably has a better shot at beating Hillary, being he’s a knife fighter and not afraid of insulting her.

Jim
 
meltzerboy said:
As a liberal (I prefer this term to leftist or progressive since I’m from an older generation), the only thing I “fear” about Carson’s being elected is that he may not be qualified for the job. I have a similar fear regarding Trump. It is not, however, that I believe Obama is the most qualified but probably more so than either Carson or Trump. For this leftist (liberal) at least, the comparison of two black men, which you mention, is of little consequence. And I have no personal stake in Obama’s legacy.
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When I speak of the left,I meant the left powers that be and all that that encompasses.How embarrassing for them to be upstaged by another black man,when Onama was the Messiah:eek:
As far as Obama being qualified,I beg to differ,if the past eight years have shown us anything it is that he is way over his head.So we will have to agree to disagree on this issue.
 
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