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jtauke said:
So you think there’s validity to people saying the president is a Muslim? Or do you think he’s not a valid US citizen?
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The Muslim issue? Why when Marines were killed did not the flag go to half-mast at the White House immediately yet, Gay Marriage is recognized and Obama is out pardoning felons? And how about his little speech about the Crusades? And did not Obama say “The future does not belong to those who insult the Prophet” or however it was said. That’s not saying he’s a Muslim, is he sympathetic while he is rather cold to others? Sure. Has Fort Hood even been called Terrorism yet? No, workplace violence, he has a mental block linking Islam with Terrorism.
 
DeniseNY said:
Oh, so it was just a pointless comments. Got it. 👍
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Hmmm, not pointless. The point was that ol’ Mark isn’t really a great source of good info due to his tendency to go crazy on the radio.

Video 1 (personally insults caller)

Video 2 (insults caller who states that religion is not a prequisite for being a good leader)

He’s no better than the talking heads at MSNBC…
 
jtauke said:
Hmmm, not pointless. The point was that ol’** Mark isn’t really a great source of good info due to his tendency to go crazy on the radio.**

Video 1 (personally insults caller)

Video 2 (insults caller who states that religion is not a prequisite for being a good leader)

He’s no better than the talking heads at MSNBC…
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So what. No one was talking about what Mark Levin said; the comment was about what Ted Cruz said.
 
Path_Finder said:
The Muslim issue? Why when Marines were killed did not the flag go to half-mast at the White House immediately yet, Gay Marriage is recognized and Obama is out pardoning felons? And how about his little speech about the Crusades? And did not Obama say “The future does not belong to those who insult the Prophet” or however it was said. That’s not saying he’s a Muslim, is he sympathetic while he is rather cold to others? Sure. Has Fort Hood even been called Terrorism yet? No, workplace violence, he has a mental block linking Islam with Terrorism.
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I fail to see how not having a flag at half mast makes the man a muslim…To play devils advocate on the issue, do we lower flags every time a service member is killed normally? Personally, I agree that it would have been a good gesture considering this was a domestic attack, but a line cannot be drawn from not doing it to Obama being a muslim.

So he’s a Muslim that thinks gay marriage is ok?

And to your point about his “prophet speech from 2012”. Please read the whole speech, the man was making a point that religious slander in general should be condemned.
It is time to leave the call of violence and the politics of division behind. On so many issues, we face a choice between the promise of the future, or the prisons of the past. And we cannot afford to get it wrong. We must seize this moment. And America stands ready to work with all who are willing to embrace a better future.
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The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt – it must be claimed by those in Tahrir Square who chanted, “Muslims, Christians, we are one.” The future must not belong to those who bully women – it must be shaped by girls who go to school, and those who stand for a world where our daughters can live their dreams just like our sons. (Applause.)
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The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country’s resources – it must be won by the students and entrepreneurs, the workers and business owners who seek a broader prosperity for all people. Those are the women and men that America stands with; theirs is the vision we will support.

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. But to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see in the images of Jesus Christ that are desecrated, or churches that are destroyed, or the Holocaust that is denied. (Applause.)
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Let us condemn incitement against Sufi Muslims and Shiite pilgrims. It’s time to heed the words of Gandhi: “Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit.” (Applause.) Together, we must work towards a world where we are strengthened by our differences, and not defined by them. That is what America embodies, that’s the vision we will support.
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The whole speech
 
I fail to see how not having a flag at half mast makes the man a muslim…To play devils advocate on the issue, do we lower flags every time a service member is killed normally? Personally, I agree that it would have been a good gesture considering this was a domestic attack, but a line cannot be drawn from not doing it to Obama being a muslim.
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So he’s a Muslim that thinks gay marriage is ok?
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Being a Muslim and being a Muslim sympathizer are not the same thing.
**“And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ,” he said. “In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ.” **
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theblaze.com/stories/2015/02/05/obama-invokes-the-crusades-during-prayer-breakfast-people-committed-terrible-deeds-in-the-name-of-christ/
Obama: Muslim Call to Prayer One of the Prettiest Sounds on Earth
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humanevents.com/2010/08/19/obama-muslim-call-to-prayer-one-of-the-prettiest-sounds-on-earth/

If one is insisting Obama is being called a Muslim, I think they also have the “Taqiyya” concept.

Let’s see now, someone remarked in the other thread regarding President Obama’s trip to Kenya, “did he tell this to Saudi Arabia?” in regards to homosexuals.

Kenya’s President Kenyatta is indeed a Christian and declared Kenya a Christian country.

Er, again, Obama said what to who??:hmmm:
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Even a Muslim sympathizer would not support things that Muslims passionately abhor (gay marriage and abortion).
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You really don’t have back up to this, just a one liner to negate what someone said, why is the DNC the party with a larger amount of Muslims? A Contingent really if they are against same sex marriage and abortion? President Obama is probably first, a Democrat and thus, his allegiances can be seen from there.

And the Democratic Party wanted to take “God” out of its platforms and recognition of Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel; hence, President Obama embodies what the Left and DNC stands for, probably is friendly in fact, to Muslim causes and in fact, has a large Muslim contingent, so why are they in it, if they are against Same-Sex Marriage and Abortion?
“The person who made me proudest of all though was my (half-brother), Roy. He was converted to Islam.” (DREAMS OF MY FATHER)
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“In Indonesia, I spent two years at a Muslim school. . .I studied the Koran.” (DREAMS OF MY FATHER)
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“Lolo (Obama’s stepfather) followed Islam. . .I looked to Lolo for guidance.” (AUDACITY OF HOPE)
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" I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds of war shift in any ugly direction. . ." (AUDACITY OF HOPE)
renewamerica.com/columns/swank/091122
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Admiral James “Ace” Lyons, Jr. (Ret.), the former commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, said that President Barack Obama does have a strategy for dealing with Islamic radicals in the Middle East and it is an “anti-American” and “pro-Islamic” strategy,” as well as “pro-Iranian” and “pro-Muslim Brotherhood” strategy.
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cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/admiral-lyons-obama-s-strategy-it-s-anti-american-pro-islamic-it-s-pro
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The whole thing with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt as well.
 
Keith Ellison is a Muslim, Huma Abedin, Hillary Clinton’s assistant is still a practicing Muslim, why are they Democrats if they are against abortion and same-sex marriage?
 
Path_Finder said:
Keith Ellison is a Muslim, Huma Abedin, Hillary Clinton’s assistant is still a practicing Muslim, why are they Democrats if they are against abortion and same-sex marriage?
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This argument doesn’t hold water. Just because they’re Muslim doesn’t mean they’re hardcore fundamentalists. How can Nancy pelosi or Biden be democrats when they consider themselves to be Catholic?

People who insist upon this sympathizer business need to stop focusing on the lame duck president and start looking toward 2016 to cultivate a good Republican candidate.

Trump is not that candidate.
 
jtauke said:
This argument doesn’t hold water. Just because they’re Muslim doesn’t mean they’re hardcore fundamentalists. How can Nancy pelosi or Biden be democrats when they consider themselves to be Catholic?

People who insist upon this sympathizer business need to stop focusing on the lame duck president and start looking toward 2016 to cultivate a good Republican candidate.

Trump is not that candidate.
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That argument doesn’t hold water, you seemed to bring up the issue of using Obama’s middle name, someone else merely mentioned it.

If that argument doesn’t hold water, then neither do those arguments of those who say “How can someone be for abortion and same sex marriage if they are Muslims”.

Let’s remember, Obama issued some sort of statement for the Eid holiday of Muslims, well, I’m not sure if Obama issued such a statement for a Jewish holiday in June.
 
Path_Finder said:
That argument doesn’t hold water, you seemed to bring up the issue of using Obama’s middle name, someone else merely mentioned it.

If that argument doesn’t hold water, then neither do those arguments of those who say “How can someone be for abortion and same sex marriage if they are Muslims”.
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Think what you will, but I’m done wasting time arguing about a man who cannot be elected president again.:rolleyes:
 
estesbob said:
I hardly think a Muslim would support homosexual marriage and unrestricted abortion on demand .
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Why then, is the Democratic party basically the party of Muslims and we have such things as Keith Ellison sworn into office I believe on a Koran, etc.? Also, the DNC often can be seen as not being pro-Israel.
 
Path_Finder said:
Why then, is the Democratic party basically the party of Muslims and we have such things as Keith Ellison sworn into office I believe on a Koran, etc.? Also, the DNC often can be seen as not being pro-Israel.
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Of course they swing Democrat now, considering they hate they got from the right following 9/11.

As to the whole oath business, who cares? Would it make you feel better if they took an oath on a book they didn’t believe in?
 
Arebella said:
He may not be tactful, but I will take the blunt honesty any time over the majority of politicians who “speak” through spin doctors and speech writers. Trump is no dummy and he understands how to get a reaction from the vast majority of the truly apathetic voters who have been lulled to sleep with the same old politically correct “messages” from the candidates of the last few years. Ronald Reagan was criticized early in in his campaign too for being too blunt and not being “presidential” and that turned out ok.
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Comparing Donald Trump to Ronald Reagan. Wow.
 
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