Fans of Taylor Marshall: what's going on?

[MarkRome]

I am sure it is only a matter of time before Taylor Marshall declares himself aligned to SSPX. He gushes over LeFebvre and now has publicly announced he went to their Mass.

 

[Jbrady]

I am sure it is only a matter of time before Taylor Marshall declares himself aligned to SSPX.

I agree. In any case, he is eyeing the exit, as I said.

 

[Theban]

To be honest most of these professional Catholics are really tiresome drama queens who don’t want a normal job.

Don’t you think that’s a bit harsh?

I get that not everyone is a fan of these new catholic podcast shows, but it seems to me a lot of the hostility to them on threads like these are a bit out of proportion.

 

[catholiclala]

Don’t you think that’s a bit harsh?

I get that not everyone is a fan of these new catholic podcast shows, but it seems to me a lot of the hostility to them on threads like these are a bit out of proportion.

Part of my reply is sarcasm but there is much truth to what I’m saying. I’m just looking at the real motivations behind a lot of these people. It is an odd niche. I follow a few people but none of whom are actively all about criticizing the Church at every turn. It’s all about tone and content. But this whole warrior to save the Church busy body bit is really grating. Also, they reap what they sow.

 

[Jbrady]

I get that not everyone is a fan of these new catholic podcast shows,

I don’t consider them Catholic in the first place. I call them alt-Catholic. A lot of them are far from mainstream Catholicism, and have a strong politically conservative, if not outright partisan outlook.

Michael Voris, for instance, is far more pro-Trump than he is pro-Catholic.

 

[catholic03]

Taylor Marshall had always been too critical of the Pope and bishops for my liking.

Now, he’s taken a big step away from them again.

 

[Theban]

I’m just looking at the real motivations behind a lot of these people. It is an odd niche. I follow a few people but none of whom are actively all about criticizing the Church at every turn.

I don’t know, I can’t say I’ve ever seen anything that’s made me think Dr. Marshall or any other pop-theologian for that matter is disingenuous. And I think the bar should be set pretty high before coming to that conclusion, otherwise we risk being overly judgemental.

As for criticising the Church, that is sort of Dr. Marshall’s thing. I’ve come to appreciate him as one of the few orthodox Catholics who will actually discuss the latest scandals and news from the Church. It would be very tiring to rely on a hostile source looking to slander the Catholic Church for all such news. If you don’t feel you need to know about these things, then I have no problem with that, but I don’t think it’s fair to call him a “drama queen” because you aren’t interested in his content, if that is what you’re doing.

 

[catholiclala]

I don’t know, I can’t say I’ve ever seen anything that’s made me think Dr. Marshall or any other pop-theologian for that matter is disingenuous. And I think the bar should be set pretty high before coming to that conclusion, otherwise we risk being overly judgemental.

As for criticising the Church, that is sort of Dr. Marshall’s thing. I’ve come to appreciate him as one of the few orthodox Catholics who will actually discuss the latest scandals and news from the Church. It would be very tiring to rely on a hostile source looking to slander the Catholic Church for all such news. If you don’t feel you need to know about these things, then I have no problem with that, but I don’t think it’s fair to call him a “drama queen” because you aren’t interested in his content, if that is what you’re doing.

The thing is personalities like this fuel a desire for content about scandal. I’ve seen so many Catholics questioning the Church and their faith because they stumble upon content like this and grow addicted to it. Some would say, well they are exposing the truth. Sometimes yes, sometimes no but I’m not here to debate that. Take that same person who was probably at peace with their fath and their church but now they are sucked into a vortex of drama, scandal and intrigue and are bordering on being schismatic. For what purpose? Before social media, this was not a trend like it is now. And I do think it’s a trend.

 

[Theban]

I don’t consider them Catholic in the first place.

Maybe we’re thinking of different shows here. I’m familiar with Michael Voris, although I haven’t seen any of his content so I can’t say anything in so far as whether it’s catholic or political, but if there is a political podcast that just happens to be made by a Catholic, then I agree with your assessment. I wouldn’t call the Alex Jones Show catholic either.

I don’t think Taylor Marshall can justly be classified as something other than catholic, though.

 

[Jbrady]

I don’t think Taylor Marshall can justly be classified as something other than catholic, though.

I do. It has lost a lot of it’s former Catholic nature. It might be ABOUT Catholicism, but I wouldn’t call it Catholic any more.

 

[Theban]

Take that same person who was probably at peace with their fath and their church but now they are sucked into a vortex of drama, scandal and intrigue and are bordering on being schismatic.

You could say that about any news. The difference is that Taylor Marshall as been very clear that these scandals doesn’t mean we should be schismatics, other sources aren’t going to make that argument.

 

[catholiclala]

You could say that about any news. The difference is that Taylor Marshall as been very clear that these scandals doesn’t mean we should be schismatics, other sources aren’t going to make that argument.

Who’s to say I don’t say this about most news?

 

[phil19034]

To be honest most of these professional Catholics are really tiresome drama queens who don’t want a normal job. There are some that are decent but it’s like a whole industry has sprung up creating this toxic Catholic celebrity culture. It’s like the only thing people who get a theology degree know to do if they don’t want to be a religious (although there are a few religious involved as well). They graduate from Steubenville, get married, have five kids they homeschool, and then decide they must have a social media presence and get paid to do it. Interesting phenomena of our day. I feel like most of the uproar about the Church is manufactured by these people to keep them busy and employed.

Bringing Steubenville into this was not necessary. Most of the “professional Catholics” who are divisive did not attend go to Steubenville or any other faithful college.

The vast majority of the “professional Catholics” who attended Steubenville are faithful Catholics, who do not stir the pot.

 

[catholiclala]

Bringing Steubenville into this was not necessary. Most of the “professional Catholics” who are divisive did not attend go to Steubenville or any other faithful college.

The vast majority of the “professional Catholics” who attended Steubenville are faithful Catholics, who do not stir the pot.

There are good Catholics who went to Steubenville, no denying that. Again, sarcasm. I’m not saying all of these people went there. And heck some may have three kids, not five, haha! But you have to admit there is a huge “speaker culture” generated from that school.

 

[DeniseNY]

he sooner the virus burns through the healthier segment of the population, the sooner herd immunity is established.

It’s going to burn through the unhealthier segment, too. And being healthy doesn’t mean anything. My friend’s husband has been on a ventilator for almost three weeks and he was extremely healthy and fit. If he can get Covid-19 and be critically ill from it, anyone can. I’m really peeved at those who want to play Russian Roulette with not only their own, but other people’s health.

 

[Theban]

Who’s to say I don’t say this about most news?

Alright, fair enough.

Some of us are being confronted with these scandals by non-catholics to whom we are the only face of the Church they know. Knowing about them, and knowing how to deal with them is an important part of evangelizing to them.

 

[phil19034]

But you have to admit there is a huge “speaker culture” generated from that school.

Yes, because their Theology department is excellent. It’s on the short list for people who want to go into ministry.

But 99% of them are good, faithful Catholics who don’t rock the boat.

95% of the people who stir the pot did NOT attend a faithful Catholic college.

 

[catholiclala]

Alright, fair enough.

Some of us are being confronted with these scandals by non-catholics to whom we are the only face of the Church they know. Knowing about them, and knowing how to deal with them is an important part of evangelizing to them.

See, I’m not denying this is happening but I have only once had a non-Catholic confront me about church scandal. That one confrontation was a friend who is anti-religion and far left. Nothing I could say would get through to him so we made peace to never speak of religion again. I have many non-Catholics inquire about my faith because I am a convert and then I share my witness, not headlines.

 

[Jbrady]

My friend’s husband has been on a ventilator for almost three weeks and he was extremely healthy and fit.

My 21-year-old nephew just got put on a respirator last week, and it doesn’t look like he is going to make it. And he was an extremely fit student athlete and outdoorsman.

Being young and “healthy” is no guarantee from getting the virus. A lot of the libertarian crowd seem to think so.

 

[catholiclala]

Yes, because their Theology department is excellent. It’s on the short list for people who want to go into ministry.

But 99% of them are good, faithful Catholics who don’t rock the boat.

95% of the people who stir the pot did NOT attend a faithful Catholic college.

True. I do recall a podcast produced by Steubenville grads in which they have humorously alluded several times to the fact that scandal keeps them busy and having something to get paid to talk about. That is what I am referring to, not the ones you speak of. It may not be a majority but it is out there enough to take note of.