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catholiclala
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I am so sorry to hear this. It is aggravating to hear people still referring to this as an illness of only the elderly, obese, or diseased. Young healthy people are dying randomly from this at an alarming rate.
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catholiclala
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Might I add that even if this were a disease of only the elderly, obese, and diseased we should still care greatly. It’s not like those things warrant a death to be dismissed.
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Theban
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Then I agree, you don’t need to know more than you want to know, and if it’s hurting your spiritual life to learn about these things then it’s probably wise to avoid it.
For me, as a young catholic in Norway, people come to me with every curiosity and roadblock they have about the Catholic Church very often, because I am often the only practicing Catholic people have ever met. Usually a normal reply about Judas or something like that is good enough, but sometimes someone has been listening to an Orthodox or Sedevacantist apologist and need a deeper answer.
For those people, I find Dr. Marshall to be an excellent reference. It can also be very helpful to someone like that to see that it is possible to harshly criticise the bad things going on in the Church, without leaving the Church, so they know we’re not a cult.
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phil19034
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Well, of course scandals give them additional things to talk about. Most podcasts are apologetics / catechesis related. You’re not going to be able to avoid them because scandals cause people to misunderstand the faith.phil19034:
True. I do recall a podcast produced by Steubenville grads in which they have humorously alluded several times to the fact that scandal keeps them busy and having something to get paid to talk about. That is what I am referring to, not the ones you speak of. It may not be a majority but it is out there enough to take note of.
The reason these things are scandals is because they cause members of the faithful (granted not all of them) spiritual / emotional / logical / psychological pain.
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catholiclala
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Ok, I can see a need there to an extent but why is it that more attention isn’t paid to uplifting content about what the faith is, why you should become a Catholic, what wonderful things are going on in the Church. How about people fall into a rabbit hole of that kind of producing and consuming that type content instead of the negative?
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Theban
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I think it depends on which people we want to talk about here. Taylor Marshall has mostly stuck with news and scandals in the recent times, but a lot of his previous content and books have plenty of good, uplifting content.
Another guy I like is Matt Fradd, who also talks about some of the scandals like Marshall does, but he has a lot more emphasis on other content. Others again, like Fr. Mike or Bishop Robert Barron are all about such other content.
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gracepoole
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This…doesn’t sound Catholic…DeniseNY:
Yes, life is filled with hardship, tragedy, and suffering. No arguments there. I’m not oblivious… and I’m really peeved at those who feel entitled to dictate the terms of other people’s freedoms. You are responsible for your own health. Life is risk. If you wish to cower in fear, take whatever measures you feel you must… by all means. I do not owe you, nor are you entitled to my submission to your beliefs and fears, be they valid or not.
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catholiclala
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Matt Fradd is decent. I heard him speak here in NY once and he had a genuine spirit about him. I wonder how he is doing. He and his wife have Covid-19. Fr Mike and Bishop Barron are solid as well. More of them please. Those are speakers that uplift. When I hear people that are newly exposed to the other type of content, they often end up in spiritual turmoil, where none existed before.
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Bithynian
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I call to mind 1 Cor 8:9 ‘take care lest this liberty of yours somehow becomes a stumbling block to the weak’ and 9:12 ‘we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ’.
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VanitasVanitatum
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That’s more base than anything else trying to disguise itself as piety.
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ThomasMT
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Personal responsibility and faith are a little more Catholic than fascism and totalitarianism, especially when it is justified by fuzzy, politically biased reporting. But we can agree to disagree.
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ThomasMT
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Piety and meekness are not dependent on cowardice and capitulation.
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DeniseNY
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Yes, I am responsible for my own health. But I’m also responsible for taking precautions for making sure that I don’t expose people in my community to a potentially deadly disease. You (general you) impede on me carrying out my responsibility when you (general you) feel that your own individual preferences are more important than the common good. Bishops haves spoken out on this and they have taken clear and decisive action to protect the flock. I don’t believe myself to be wiser - and absolutely not more devout or faithful - than they are.
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Theban
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Yes, I think normal prudence to what someone consumes should apply to all media, even if it is Catholic. If someone risks falling in spiritual turmoil by listening to Taylor Marshall, then they should probably spend their time differently.
I do think it is infinitely better for someone who will be shaken by such scandals to discover that there exists some abuses within the Church from someone who also defends the Church itself, though, than from someone who is consciously trying to lead people away from the Church with them, like many non-catholic opponents of Marshall do.
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phil19034
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Honestly - I think it MIGHT have to do with the type of person who listens to talk radio (including podcasts). I think it’s the same reason why the vast majority of political talk radio is conservative and/or libertarian.
People who are fine with the status quo don’t see a need to listen to these kinds of talk shows.
It’s same with many self-help and/or educational programs. People are not going to watch/listen if they don’t feel the need for improvement.
People listen to the shows they want to listen to. Conservatives (religious, political, architectural, artistic, etc) are interested in programs discuss how to restore X. If you are happy with the status quo, you are NOT going to be interested in restoring X.
Most mainstream/primetime TV programs (even religious ones) are geared towards the status quo. Things fitting outside the status quo are either not on TV or often during off-peak hours.
Just look at what happened when Relevant Radio and Immaculate Heart Radio both merged. Except for Catholic Answers Live (which was a different issue), the spiritual programs were dropped in favor for the apologetics programs. Why? Because most people are not looking for things they can hear in Sunday homily and/or a devotions they do in Church or on their own. They are looking to supplement what they are currently NOT hearing / receiving.
If the status quo in Catholic parishes was shifted more towards the traditional side, I’m sure you would hear of more Charismatic Renewal type programs. But because those are either common place and/or more accessible, the radio leans towards tradition.
My point: most people listen to Catholic radio / podcasts not to pray or receive more of what they are already receiving at Church. They are not listening as a way to avoid prayer, reading the Bible, going to Mass, etc. They are listening to answer the questions/concerns they have and/or to supplement what they are missing from their parishes, society, etc. (aka what they are lacking from the status quo).
I hope I’m making sense.
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AngelaMarie
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I’m thinking back to all the wonderful posts that JREduction used to post on the old Traditional Catholic forum
And I can remember two of the most important topics he would often discuss in his reply.
Charity and obedience. Yes, the importance of obedience.
And I can remember two of the most important topics he would often discuss in his reply.
Charity and obedience. Yes, the importance of obedience.
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VanitasVanitatum
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They certainty aren’t self-willed either.
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REPENT
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Ever since TNT stopped collaborating, his show hasn’t been the same. I hope they get the band back together someday.
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phil19034
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Yes, I think it is important to know that each radio show / podcast really has a targeted audience, even if the host of the show doesn’t realize it.
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- Fr. Mike (while anyone can listen to his stuff) targets young adults. His style (not content) sometimes puts off older people because they are not his target audience.
- Bishop Barron has a tendency to target “nones” and intellectual fallen away Catholics and other intellectuals who are not well catechised. This is why people who are very well catechised and/or whom are are not very intellectual either don’t care for or misunderstand his talks.
- Taylor Marshall is very blunt, and doesn’t sugar coat things (esp in the “post McCarrick” Church). For people who appreciate blunt, straight talk, they find him refreshing. For people who don’t like blunt speak, they find him divisive. He’s also more upfront about his personal preference for the Latin Mass vs the Ordinary Form than he used to be. So that also attracts some and upsets others. Finally, Taylor is (and always has been) very Thomistic. To him all positions must be reconsibable with St. Thomas Aquinas. If it can’t be, then it is not in line with Latin Catholic tradition. If one disagrees with Aquinas, they are not going to like Taylor at all.
God Bless
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ThomasMT
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The “common good,” mhmm… and so, history repeats again and again. How easily a life of cushy, first world privilege allows us to forget. Take care, Denise.
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