The bishop of Arlington told Catholics there to refrain from participating in SSPX Masses. It would seem, then, that obedient Catholics in that diocese would abide by the guidance of their bishop. This isn’t Marshall’s diocese, of course, but I don’t see how faithful Catholics in a diocese like Arlington can attend an SSPX in good faith.
We will see. Things have been getting better as time goes on. For example, even though Bishop Fellay is gone (as superior) and Pope Benedict is no longer in public, they now can officially hear confessions, first this was only for a year and now it is forever. If things keep going in that direction, next it will be mass and next permanent marriage etc, or who knows what, and then the logical conclusion is that one day an agreement will be made. We might say that it’s not going to happen now, but nobody could foresee what had just happened recently for them, so who knows what the Lord will do.
Don’t hold your breath.
Our Lord is not present in nondenominational churches, not sacramentally at least anyway. They also do not offer confessions
I have never heard of the SSPX claiming full communion with Rome. . . .
I just don’t see it. My understanding is that the SSPX had a chance to come into full communion during the talks under Pope Benedict, but talks broke down when they refused to assent to the authority and validity of Vatican II. I think a more likely scenario is that most traditionalists realize they can find a home in the Church, while the “hard core” SSPX drift further away, until eventually they are a small and separate religion, much like the Old Catholics.
Agreed. His sympathies seem to be changing quickly.
That true. My bad. But they do deceptively claim to have authority to say the Catholic Mass, which they do not have.
I really like Fradd – he seems to have very little personal agenda/ego and often acknowledges when he simply doesn’t know something. It’s really refreshing. And Bishop Barron and Fr. Mike are fabulous go-tos.
That’s an interesting and perhaps useful distinction.Theban:
I do. It has lost a lot of it’s former Catholic nature. It might be ABOUT Catholicism, but I wouldn’t call it Catholic any more.
If “ifs” and “buts” were candy and nuts, it would be Christmas every day!
Maybe. But the Pope said he did that for the pastoral benefit of those who attend SSPX churches. He has not said anything that suggests that full communion will require anything less than it did under his predecessor. He has also not extended that to any other sacraments in the four years since he first allowed confession.
Okay, I didn’t realize that. I only saw last night
Yes, I agree. I don’t know what happened but I thought they were doing very good videos. The Gordon’s will move on I’m sure and do fine.
Completely agree. I would not have posted it either, even with the best intentions it is so easy to take things the wrong way on the internet and I am just starving to go to Mass, so it seemed kind of hurtful.
Yes
I think so also, or is it that it is just more public. Right now there is a pretty sad disagreement going on in my N.O. parish over spirituality. It’s very sad and is hurting many members. Disagreements happen in many situations.
I think it already is. Seems to me that some pretty senior clergy on the traditional side have gotten away with saying things that would not have been tolerated a decade ago.