Federal Police "Invade" Portland

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WingedHussar said:
Neither is letting Antifa run wild in the streets.
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There are ways of addressing law breaking without violating the Constitution. I suggest we not throw the Constitution out the window because it’s convenient.

Law and order is only meaningful when it is based on the principles we have written down.
 
My friend is one of them. They’re doing good work, gloves have come off.
 
Communist state’s have usually been totalitarian in nature however.
 
billsherman said:
You didn’t read the story.
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Yes I did. It is a twitter rant, not a real news story. And It is a hodpodge of anti-police rhetoric all blended together.
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“Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off.”
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Yet no details about anyone who has actually disappeared.

If someone is kidnapped by the federal government then I will be right alongside you and this twitterati demanding answers as to where this person was taken.

But I doubt that is what is happening. What is LIKELY happening is federal agencies are going covert with unmarked cars as the look for the terrorist ringleaders. When they find them, they quickly arrest them in the street and then retreat, therefore not allowing a violent response from the useful idiot mob the terrorists have stirred up.

Again, assuming people are arrested, arraigned, and tried, then this is perfectly legal, and I would argue good policing as it reduces the risk of harm to those around the alleged terrorists.

As to the protester shot in the head - I hope they recover fully, but this is what I mean about the hodgepodge of anti-police rhetoric thrown in. This isn’t a protester who was purposefully shot in the head by an invading federal army (like the headline makes it sound like), it was likely one of the useful idiots who were encouraged by their marxist leaders to protest/riot in the street and was randomly struck by a crowd control device.

Unlike many of the police officers who have been purposefully targeted by terrorists during these riots.
 
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Name one existing totalitarian state with a capitalist economic structure.
 
PaulinVA said:
Well, the guy quoted in the Oregon Public Broadcasting story was never charged with a crime. He never did anything, but unidentified federal agents (we assume) snatched him off the streets and forced him into an unmarked minivan and covered his face to not let him know where they were taking him.
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That is the stuff of movies.
 
billsherman said:
There are ways of addressing law breaking without violating the Constitution. I suggest we not throw the Constitution out the window because it’s convenient.

Law and order is only meaningful when it is based on the principles we have written down.
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There is no indication that anyone’s rights, as outlined in the Constitution, are being violated here. If you know of a US citizen who has been kidnapped by an “INVADING FEDERAL POLICE” please post their information here. I will personally donate money to pay for them to get an attorneyy.
 
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Name one existing totalitarian state with a capitalist economic structure.
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Pick one. 😁
 
I wasn’t making the argument that a true communist state exists today either.
 
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It has never worked. We will make arguments, wasn’t really Socialism or Communism.

By the way, there is a real debate on whether Sweden etc. are really Socialist countries.
 
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I was just awakened out of a sound sleep by a series of flash-bangs as the Portland PD attempted once again to get the thugs under control:

Earlier, the . . . attempted to exculpate himself just as he has over and over for the past 5 weeks at least:


The ‘democratic’ establishment in Portland and the related members (Wyden, Merkley) of the Oregonian ‘democrat’ regime in Washington D.C. deserve to be behind bars, and not out destroying civilization wherever they have free run.
 
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