Federal Police "Invade" Portland

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I’m familiar with history. Didn’t need to read it to know what the reichstag fire is
 
Do you mean something like Gitmo? Because that’s not secret.
 
It’s more the fact that you would be comfortable with unmarked government vans that take people off the street and into secret prisons where they are never heard from again.
 
Some tactics are effective against regardless of their origination.
 
I see no issue with denying rights to people who attack the country that gives them those rights. As soon as the riot started they forfeited their protection under the constitution as far as I’m concerned.
 
Read the whole thing. It doesn’t take long. It’s something that needs to be taken in its entirety.
 
It’s very interesting, and very sobering, to see someone who is aware of this stuff but also seems to outright support it.
I see no issue with denying rights to people who attack the country that gives them those rights. As soon as the riot started they forfeited their protection under the constitution as far as I’m concerned.
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That’s always how the liberal state enforces its rights anyway, so they definitely agree with you. “Rights” aren’t worth the paper they’re written on.
 
The only rights that exist are those you can guarantee yourself. Other than that they’re privileges granted by the state. I’m not naive enough to believe in inalienable rights.
 
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I see no issue with denying rights to people who attack the country that gives them those rights. As soon as the riot started they forfeited their protection under the constitution as far as I’m concerned.
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You did a pretty good job of gutting the Bill of Rights there. Accused criminals (regardless of crime) are the one who need the most protection against the state.

Ignoring the written law is what authoritarian states do, but I guess you don’t care.
 
The bill of rights hasn’t mattered in any meaningful way in decades. It’s ignored by the government anytime it’s inconvenient. Passing gun control, surveillance of suspects, etc. might as well drop the charade.
 
RhodesianSon said:
The bill of rights hasn’t mattered in any meaningful way in decades. It’s ignored by the government anytime it’s inconvenient. Passing gun control, surveillance of suspects, etc. might as well drop the charade.
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For a gentleman deeply afraid of Communistic authoritarianism, you’re uncommonly comfortable with the systematic denial of due process, civil rights, and basic human decency. I applaud your honesty, but I’ll have to mute you now.

I recommend having a nice chat with your priest or bishop about the Catholic view on due process and human dignity.

Also, people who support a different political viewpoint aren’t criminals and don’t deserve to be shuttled to secret prisons. But you knew that.
 
All governments are authoritarian. The only difference is the behavior they sanction and the behavior they endorse.
 
What do you find objectionable in “communism?” Lots of the “communist countries” that have existed have been extremely conservative and promoted cultures rooted in nationalism and what you might refer to as “traditional values.”
 
Seizure of private capital, and the atheism mostly.

Particularly with the Russian brand the murder of the imperial family.
 
Well if you just base it on numbers killed then the answer is clear.
 
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