Feminism is infiltrating every aspect of society

[john_ennis]

Kendy:

Well, as long as the science on this is still inconclusive. It might be best to simply present students with the body of research and theories in the area and let them decide.

Kendy

Would a public school sociology curriculum be justified in making the assertion, “The view that male and female roles in the family are not distinct, but rather ought to be interchangeable, is virtually unheard of in the animal kingdom”?

You see, that’s the kind of perspective I’d be tempted to point out, for the sake of “letting them decide,” but which is rarely if ever stated, I believe.

Peace

 

[Kendy]

john ennis:

Would a public school sociology curriculum be justified in making the assertion, “The view that male and female roles in the family are not distinct, but rather ought to be interchangeable, is virtually unheard of in the animal kingdom”?

You see, that’s the kind of perspective I’d be tempted to point out, for the sake of “letting them decide,” but which is rarely if ever stated, I believe.

Peace

Well, human beings are a little more complex than animals.

Kendy

 

[john_ennis]

Kendy:

Well, human beings are a little more complex than animals.

Kendy

No question. The point isn’t the be-all-and-end-all evidence in the discussion.

 

[Irene]

JSmitty,

One point catches my eye as I begin reading your essay. You say that the “feminist manifesto, published in 1949”, affected “[t]he tranquil society of the early-to-mid-20th century”.

I apologize, but 1949 was not a tranquil year – Soviet expansion into eastern Europe and getting atomic technology, the difficult aftermath of the Berlin airlift, the fall of China – Communism had momentum, and the West was worried. Our domestic society was in the process of returning to peacetime living, but the major mobilization required for total world war made that difficult. Not only women but blacks too had undergone a mass migration during the war. Women “migrated” from their homes to the factories, as the men left their jobs to fight, and blacks migrated from the Southern plantations to Northern cities.
Both of these major social shifts were not fully felt for two decades, but that does not mean society was “tranquil”.
It was a time of questions, JSmitty

 

[Wammy101]

JSmitty2005:

Wammy, I am sorry, but you are not Catholic. You have explicitly supported abortion and contraception, two evils which all Catholics are **required ** to reject. BTW, please learn to use the quote function correctly.

Well jsmitty, I am sorry (not) that I do not spend all my days posting stupid threads that are sexist on the computer. i frankly, do NOT CARE whether i use the quote function correctly or not. I also think that you have NO RIGHT what so ever to tell me if I am catholic or not. I am catholic. i am baptised, have done my communion, and have been confirmed. just because i do not BLINDLY and UNQUESTIONINGLY believe in every thing that thet church says, it doesnt meam that i ain’t catholic. it means that because i believe that contraception and abortion and homosexuality are not evil, i am an OPEN MINDED catholic. if we had globally banned contraception, every time people had sex, they would get pregnant, or get a sexually transmitted disease.if we didnt konw how to do an abortion, then every women who got raped would have to deal with a baby that she CANT LOOK AFTER. Oh, and i think that you are a sexist pig, with no sense, and a non-existent brain.

 

[Wammy101]

JSmitty2005:

I forgot about this one which proves my point further. Support of homosexuality is explicit. Wammy101, I’m sorry, but you’ve accused me of having a head “full of air.” It seems to me that your mind is so open (which somehow has become a virtue in our world) that your brain has fallen out.

so now having an open mind is bad? what next smitty, being woman is bad?

 

[Wammy101]

JSmitty2005:

I forgot about this one which proves my point further. Support of homosexuality is explicit. Wammy101, I’m sorry, but you’ve accused me of having a head “full of air.” It seems to me that your mind is so open (which somehow has become a virtue in our world) that your brain has fallen out.

so you think that being opeminded is bad. next being women will be bad

 

[JSmitty2005]

Wammy101:

Well jsmitty, I am sorry (not) that I do not spend all my days posting stupid threads that are sexist on the computer. i frankly, do NOT CARE whether i use the quote function correctly or not. I also think that you have NO RIGHT what so ever to tell me if I am catholic or not. I am catholic. i am baptised, have done my communion, and have been confirmed. just because i do not BLINDLY and UNQUESTIONINGLY believe in every thing that thet church says, it doesnt meam that i ain’t catholic. it means that because i believe that contraception and abortion and homosexuality are not evil, i am an OPEN MINDED catholic. if we had globally banned contraception, every time people had sex, they would get pregnant, or get a sexually transmitted disease.if we didnt konw how to do an abortion, then every women who got raped would have to deal with a baby that she CANT LOOK AFTER. Oh, and i think that you are a sexist pig, with no sense, and a non-existent brain.

Wammy101:

so now having an open mind is bad? what next smitty, being woman is bad?

Wammy101:

so you think that being opeminded is bad. next being women will be bad

I absolutely love it! Hahahaha!!! You’ve got quite a lot to learn, my dear peer. And, yes, I do not think that open-mindedness (in the way that you mean) is a good thing. In my opinion, it’s a sign of indecision, intellectual weakness, and foolishness. Chesterton put it well:

“An open mind is really a mark of foolishness, like an open mouth. Mouths and minds were made to shut; they were made to open only in order to shut.” (Illustrated London News. October 10, 1908)

“The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.” (Autobiography. Collected Works Vol. 16, p. 212)

 

[JSmitty2005]

Wammy101:

just because i do not BLINDLY and UNQUESTIONINGLY believe in every thing that thet church says, it doesnt meam that i ain’t catholic.

You’re right, but *you * cannot blindly and unquestioningly believe in everything that the world says. And yes, to oppose the Church on such issues as you do puts you in a very questionable situation as to your status as a “Catholic.” I hope that you do not receive Holy Communion because to do so would be to blaspheme the Body and Blood of our Lord. You would be drinking judgment upon yourself.

I hope you’re not implying by this statement that I blindly and unquestioningly believe in everything the Church says. I do believe in everything the Church says, but I did not arrive at such a conclusion blindly nor without question. There was a time when I saw nothing wrong with contraception and even wondered about the “exceptions” for abortion in the cases of rape or incest. Through much study, I’ve arrived at truth and I hope you will too some day.

It seems as though *you * are the one that is blind and unquestioning as to what the Church teaches because if you did inquire about such things, you would have your objections answered. After hearing the explanations and using that widely open mind of yours, you should pray about it. If you still disagree with the Church, I would re-examine your reasoning for being a Catholic to begin with.

 

[JSmitty2005]

By the way, Wammy, have fun going to your “cool psychics” and using your “meditation crystals.” Oh, and I’d like to hear why you think that the Church should “accept the Hindu religion.” LOL

 

[oldfogey]

Wammy101:

i do not BLINDLY and UNQUESTIONINGLY believe in every thing that thet church says, it doesnt meam that i ain’t catholic. it means that because i believe that contraception and abortion and homosexuality are not evil, i am an OPEN MINDED catholic. if we had globally banned contraception, every time people had sex, they would get pregnant, or get a sexually transmitted disease.if we didnt konw how to do an abortion, then every women who got raped would have to deal with a baby that she CANT LOOK AFTER. Oh, and i think that you are a sexist pig, with no sense, and a non-existent brain.

Wow, do you have a copy of the CCC?

 

[Thirst4Him]

JSmitty2005:

Who are you to stand against God’s Word? Men are the head of the household. That’s simply the way it is whether you like it or not. What do you mean by “it’s not even part of her reality”? Did she conconct some sort of fantasy world or what?

Jus’ keep 'em barefoot and pregnant Bubba. You’d make a great Protestant Fundementalist…ala Bob Jones, Jerry Falwell etc. You are smack dab in the middle of their camp on this subject.

 

[JSmitty2005]

Thirst4Him:

Jus’ keep 'em barefoot and pregnant Bubba. You’d make a great Protestant Fundementalist…ala Bob Jones, Jerry Falwell etc. You are smack dab in the middle of their camp on this subject.

You are wrong, my friend. This is a basic truth (what I wrote, NOT the satirical caricature that you’ve created) that they have preserved from Catholicism.

See here:

catholic.com/thisrock/1999/9906fea1.asp

catholic.com/thisrock/2004/0407fea2.asp

catholic.com/thisrock/2005/0502bt.asp

 

[Mark_Marilyn]

Originally Posted by BillyT92679
As a Catholic I believe that truth is not immutable.

JSmitty2005:

I think that you meant that truth *is * immutable.

Perhaps a few truths are, but not all of them…!

(re. Post #301, for those who don’t see the ‘relevance’ of this “immutable” point)

 

[Mark_Marilyn]

JSmitty2005:

You are wrong, my friend. This is a basic truth (what I wrote, NOT the satirical caricature that you’ve created) that they have preserved from Catholicism.

See here:

catholic.com/thisrock/1999/9906fea1.asp

catholic.com/thisrock/2004/0407fea2.asp

catholic.com/thisrock/2005/0502bt.asp

Earlier religions (pre-Judaism &c) were often female-dominated or egalitarian and not necessarily bad even in terms of later moralities. Yes, I know, God is a male and came out to tell you personally that all women must be submissive, stepped on, etc., right?
I do not see how fundamentalism (and other related political -isms) is compatible with true Catholicism…? I’ll check if your websites ever tell us otherwise…? Marilyn

 

[JSmitty2005]

Mark & Marilyn:

Perhaps a few truths are, but not all of them…!

No. Truth *is * immutable. As Catholics, we believe that truth is not relative but rather that it is objective, universal, and unchanging. To put it all together, truth is absolute.

 

[Dubervilles]

Kendy-

I saw your post mentioning Kate Chopin’s Awakening. I love that book…it changed my life and moved me in ways I didn’t think possible. I would also recommend Thomas Hardy’s Tess of the D’ubervilles (if you haven’t read it already–and it is where I get my name on here from obviously).

JSmitty- Did you read the article that I posted after you posted yours? Just curious as to you thoughts on it.

 

[JSmitty2005]

Dubervilles:

JSmitty- Did you read the article that I posted after you posted yours? Just curious as to you thoughts on it.

Sure did. One dead-beat guy is not an argument.

 

[JSmitty2005]

oldfogey:

Wow, do you have a copy of the CCC?

I think that we first need to ask if she has a brain. Maybe it’s been replaced by a pumpkin.

 

[john_ennis]

Wammy101:

if we didnt konw how to do an abortion, then every women who got raped would have to deal with a baby that she CANT LOOK AFTER. .

There would be people lined up to take care of, and love, that baby. That baby…as innocent of the rape as her mother is. They’d be lined up, and I’d be one of them.

Peace.