Feminisms effect on women

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Carolinagirl411;3617428]
I want them to spell out for me their plan to fix the problem of feminism so I might understand their position better.
OH, is THAT what you wanted?? I described my ideal woman, not how I would change things.
 
Carolinagirl411;3617378]

That’s dominant males.😉

Anyway prior to the 60’s.

I did not go there with the mooching part. I say it is the job of the man to be the supporter and the protector.

You love going to the extremes don’t you? Yes, having children(plural) is a good thing. She does housework, and I do outside work. She raises the kids while I work, and at night, we both do it. We get a babysitter on Friday night, for our alone time. If she wants to work a part timer when the kids are not around or at night, just to get away, then I have no problem with that. Choosing school or career over family, I do not like. HOWEVER, I wouldn’t have a problem with college so much, if more women would have chose to be moms. My issue is that they are taught(told) not to! That college is the ONLY option for them. I have no issue with a smart woman, as a matter of fact, I require it. But a swwet, nice, airhead is not a bad person either, contrary to what the feminists say. I have everthing I want in poster Neat62. She is my girlfriend. A masters degree, wants children, wants to be a stay at home, wants to cook, wants to be a housewife. Ironically, feminism has kept us single for too long, BUT, it has actually allowed us to meet. (I called her a feminist on another Catholic blog lol) She acts girly, not arrogant, not overeducated, and does not ACT, overly confident. Sometimes she does in certain situations, but not with me. If she attacks my ego, then we will have problems. She knows when and how to let me win. That may seem subserviant to you, but try it sometime. You may find a little…power,

Well, I cannot respond to that. I only know that stuff happens on both sides. I also know that the courts favor women, suiting as feminism has been mainstreamed in society, as I have mentioned before. Want proof? The Duke players were tried in the media even before the trial. DO NOT deny that! You KNOW they were. What happend to the “victim”? NOTHING! I want justice. Put her in jail.

I have no specifics I would like to see done about rape, cause I don’t spend too much time on that subject.
What happens when you attack her ego?
 
neat62;3617433]
Oh and for the record…this WOMAN…would give anything to go back to the Victorian days or even better, the Pioneer days…when men and women each knew their places…when men and women worked BESIDE one another in the fields…when the mother happily gave birth to as many children as she was blessed with…and when they were God fearing, Bible reading, hard working, faithful, fully loving, Sunday observing, selfishlessly giving, courageously ambitious, and the love of their FAMILY came second only to their love of God!
Like Seven Brides For Seven Brothers??? Good girl. :tiphat:
 
Carolinagirl411;3617455]
I love having a job and I love have the right to vote and I love being able to leave my house without worrying about some man being near me at all times to guard me. They thought women were weak willed and needed to be guarded, lest they might sin.
lol that is a bunch of BS
THAT, is manly. THAT, is unattractive to me. THAT, is not girly. You wanted to know my ideal woman? It is the exact opposite of you. I mean no disrespect, I am being honest and illustrative. And one day, God forbid, you may very well need a man to guard you. Life was not always Microsoft and Starbucks. And there is no promise that it will remain that way either. Remember, WWII was a mean 60 years ago, so don’t get cocky.
 
Thank you Leftistdestroyer

Didn’t realize that you and neat were together but she chimed in to my request as well. I appreciate you responding and I understand your claims a bit better. Sometimes when people on the forums argue point by point back at each other the whole issue gets lost. I just wanted a little overall summary for clarification before things got out of hand. Neat and I understand each other as well…so yay for understanding.

I appreciate your opinion…and I did want to say something

I get a little hot headed sometimes especially if I am stressed…which I am, due to lots of school stuff going on, but I didn’t want to leave this thread with the impression that I am hot headed and argumentative and competitive all the time lol. I love my fiance with all of my heart. I do not deserve such a wonderful man and I find that due to my love I do submit to him a lot and I do not mind it. As I said to your lovely lady, I am not a fanatical feminist…just a supporter of human rights! Men need women AND women need men. Unless you are a nun or a monk/priest and then you only need God. I think love in general is naturally submissive and humbling for both men and women.

PS: I totally agree about the Duke situation. I went to UNC in undergrad and i’m not too far away from that area. That woman really ticked me off putting those poor guys through that. The DA is just as at fault seeing as he knew information and refused to follow it so he could persecute those guys.
 
juliamajor;3617482]
Medal? most of the women I know have hidden it from everyone. After my daughter starting acting out of character-and it took a couple of years of family suffering- she finally told us what had happened to her. She told me first-she was afraid to tell her dad-afraid she’d be rejected by him like her best friend had been. It was only after she told her dad that things started to improve and real therapy and healing could happen. It’s still a very deep dark secret that she doesn’t voice to anyone- so as far as a medal-nonsense.
Yeah, a medal. The ones I knew, never were raped, but brought it up for no real reason except to hear: Oh yeah, wow. Sorry, you wanna talk about it? Did you know the guy? Were you drunk?
 
Carolinagirl411;3617455]
THAT, is manly. THAT, is unattractive to me. THAT, is not girly. You wanted to know my ideal woman? It is the exact opposite of you. I mean no disrespect, I am being honest and illustrative. And one day, God forbid, you may very well need a man to guard you. Life was not always Microsoft and Starbucks. And there is no promise that it will remain that way either. Remember, WWII was a mean 60 years ago, so don’t get cocky.
haha I think if the world went back to WWII era women would still keep their jobs. We’ve come too far to go back to that. But it’s ok I respect your opinion and since it is a free country you are allowed to not want someone like me and I you…

If women weren’t allowed jobs in the future I don’t know what I’d do then if I never got married or something…live off my parents? And no I don’t need to be protected by a man who is just as capable of sinning to protect me from sin. I am not weak willed to the point where I can’t use my God given moral conscience especially with the Church laying down the dogma. Now as far as physical protection goes…I weigh 90lbs so yeah…if all hell broke loose I’d either need a man or my gun! I prefer both actually 🙂

But I still mean what I said in my last post. I do appreciate you giving it to me straight.
 
Dale_M;3617630]
Okay. I don’t agree with the point about restoring traditional male and female roles, but I respect your opinion.
Again, I disagree, but your opinion is equally as valid as mine
Fair enough.
 
juliamajor;3617712]
What happens when you attack her ego?
I don’t.

I don’t overstep my role and she does not over step her role. We are both have our roles well defined. We get along great.
 
Carolinagirl411;3617754]
Thank you Leftistdestroyer
YW
As I said to your lovely lady, I am not a fanatical feminist…just a supporter of human rights! Men need women AND women need men.
Ahh, here we go again! LOL This is not about me wanting to oppress women, this is strictly about the negative consequences to feminism. I find it funny(not really) that they are ALWAYS ignored by them. It is about women, women, women(me, me, me) and to hell with the rest of society. I’m sorry I am raining on your nice post to me, but I cannot allow myself to lighten up on this topic with a more personal tone. Sorry.
 
neat62;3617763]
Adam…now I’ve always looked up to ya, tried to ape ya! But you know…my stew can stand on its own feet. 😉 LOL! j/k :love
LOL I love you sweety! And yes, your stew DOES stand on it’s own feet! And those little powdered cookie balls! MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

youtube.com/watch?v=-LO1h6iZW54

You all want to know what we are like? Go rent Seven Brides For Seven Brothers.
 
Carolinagirl411;3617782]
haha I think if the world went back to WWII era women would still keep their jobs. We’ve come too far to go back to that.
Of course they would, women had jobs back then to! Just most prefered a family.
If women weren’t allowed jobs in the future I don’t know what I’d do then if I never got married or something…live off my parents?
lol, no, you would have a job. I told you, my grandmother supported both her and my grandfather for a time. That DID happen back then, but the feminists have been lying to you.
And no I don’t need to be protected by a man who is just as capable of sinning to protect me from sin.
??? Had nothing to do with sin. Where you get that from?
I do appreciate you giving it to me straight.
DON’T BE PERVERTED!!!

(lol)
 
Carolinagirl411;3617754]

Ahh, here we go again! LOL This is not about me wanting to oppress women, this is strictly about the negative consequences to feminism. I find it funny(not really) that they are ALWAYS ignored by them. It is about women, women, women(me, me, me) and to hell with the rest of society. I’m sorry I am raining on your nice post to me, but I cannot allow myself to lighten up on this topic with a more personal tone. Sorry.
Haha its ok. You do what you gotta do. I didn’t intend to make that seem like it was all about women, but I guess that’s what this entire thread is about. I dont’ think I implied that you oppress women either so if you got that out of my statement i’m sorry. If there are negative consequences to feminism and i will concede that there are…the whole “let’s put all men into one category as stupid pigs and become lesbians b/c women are better than men” idea just disgusts me. (and yes I know that is the extreme)

Negative consequences need to be dealt with in society but unfortunately the radical feminists are on a slippery slope and society is playing right along. Some of your negative consequences I may not see as quite so negative but oh well…what can ya do 😛

If you still have a problem with that statement then i’m not sure what else to say except we each have our own view points and I have enjoyed having a lively debate with you and neat!
 
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Haha its ok. You do what you gotta do. I didn’t intend to make that seem like it was all about women, but I guess that’s what this entire thread is about. I dont’ think I implied that you oppress women either so if you got that out of my statement i’m sorry. If there are negative consequences to feminism and i will concede that there are…the whole “let’s put all men into one category as stupid pigs and become lesbians b/c women are better than men” idea just disgusts me. (and yes I know that is the extreme)

Negative consequences need to be dealt with in society but unfortunately the radical feminists are on a slippery slope and society is playing right along. Some of your negative consequences I may not seem as quite so negative but oh well…what can ya do 😛

If you still have a problem with that statement then i’m not sure what else to say except we each have our own view points and I have enjoyed having a lively debate with you and neat!
I’ve enjoyed it as well…have a wonderful night! 😉
 
neat62;3617763]

LOL I love you sweety! And yes, your stew DOES stand on it’s own feet! And those little powdered cookie balls! MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

youtube.com/watch?v=-LO1h6iZW54

You all want to know what we are like? Go rent Seven Brides For Seven Brothers.
I love you to honey!! MMUUAWW!

See girls…men are not all wife beating, women degrading, overly dominate pigs…I find that when we let them be who they naturally are inclined to be…it is far more rewarding and sure makes relationships a whole lot easier!

We do have a wonderful relationship…its open, its honest and we do indeed, both understand and respect our individual roles.

I happily let leftistdestroy take the lead…because I trust him enough to know that he’s not going to lead me where I don’t want to be!!
 
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