Fifth Graders Quizzed on Proper Condom Use

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Does your fifth grader know how to use a condom? They may soon learn if they go to school in Washington, D.C.

The District of Columbia Office of the State Superintendent on Education is pushing out standardized tests for sex education. The District takes its authority to administer sex education tests to fifth, eighth, and tenth graders from the Healthy Schools Act of 2010.

Here’s how it works: Children as young as 10 will be asked 50 questions. One of the questions reads: “TJ wants to remain abstinent, but also wants to know how to properly use a condom in case he is ever in a situation where he might become sexually active. Give TWO reasons why using a condom properly is important and describe THREE people or places that could give TJ accurate information about condom use.”

“The guideline questions necessitate age-inappropriate instruction for 10 and 11-year-olds. Previously, comprehensive sex education advocates would have the minimal—but insufficient—courtesy of allowing parents to opt their children out of their classes,” says Emmett McGroarty, executive director of the Preserve Innocence Initiative. “Now, parents are being informed that a non-mandatory class is being replaced by a mandated test.”

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If you can’t afford your kids to go to a Catholic school from k-12th then I would suggest finding a way to make it work for home schooling, if not with yourself than with someone in your parish if you are lucky to find someone? Keeping children away from the governments influence (as well as medias influence) is the only way to give them better chances at making it in life. My generation was hit hard but looking at the generations after, with the stuff thats forced down their throats, I pray for the future of this world.
 
Oh no, our children might know what condoms are and what they’re for?
 
TheTrueCentrist said:
Oh no, our children might know what condoms are and what they’re for?
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10 year olds don’t need to know this. They need to be going out into the fields to build castles, fight dragons and rescue princesses - not experimenting with sex.
 
jmcrae said:
10 year olds don’t need to know this. They need to be going out into the fields to build castles, fight dragons and rescue princesses - not experimenting with sex.
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Do kids know what cigarettes are and what they are for? Yes, but that hardly motivates them to try them. If a parent has a problem with condoms or premarital sex, that is something they should instill in their children. This sort of education can hardly be considered an undermining of parental authority.
 
TheTrueCentrist said:
Do kids know what cigarettes are and what they are for? Yes, but that hardly motivates them to try them. If a parent has a problem with condoms or premarital sex, that is something they should instill in their children. This sort of education can hardly be considered an undermining of parental authority.
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Cigarette smoking is often done in public, so of course kids know what it is. (And most kids try it, at least once or twice.)

Sex is a private matter between adults who are married to each other. It’s not something 10 year olds need to understand very well. (Certainly not well enough to understand what a condom is or how it works.)
 
jmcrae said:
Cigarette smoking is often done in public, so of course kids know what it is. (And most kids try it, at least once or twice.)
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[Citation needed] I, for example, have never tried it.
jmcrae said:
Sex is a private matter between adults who are married to each other. It’s not something 10 year olds need to understand very well. (Certainly not well enough to understand what a condom is or how it works.)
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Unfortunately in the case of abuse, it would be better for a 10 year old to have some understanding of sex and its consequences. Your statement is true if the school could guarantee all kids have a stable and healthy family, but since it cannot, I can’t fault the school for wanting to prepare kids for the realities they may face. Not all families will ever teach their kids about sex, and those same families are the ones who will neglect warnings about STDs and pregnancy let alone immorality. It is therefore in the hands of the schools to do what they can to prevent STDs and teen pregnancies. Since a school cannot advocate for religious positions, it seems reasonable for them to simply present the facts about pregnancy, diseases, and how they can be avoided.

Besides, how old is old enough? 11? 12? 13?
 
TheTrueCentrist said:
[Citation needed] I, for example, have never tried it.

Unfortunately in the case of abuse, it would be better for a 10 year old to have some understanding of sex and its consequences. Your statement is true if the school could guarantee all kids have a stable and healthy family, but since it cannot, I can’t fault the school for wanting to prepare kids for the realities they may face. Not all families will ever teach their kids about sex, and those same families are the ones who will neglect warnings about STDs and pregnancy let alone immorality. It is therefore in the hands of the schools to do what they can to prevent STDs and teen pregnancies. Since a school cannot advocate for religious positions, it seems reasonable for them to simply present the facts about pregnancy, diseases, and how they can be avoided.

Besides, how old is old enough? 11? 12? 13?
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Old enough to either get pregnant or get someone pregnant. Sooner than that seems to rob children of their childhood.

Even then, graphic details shouldn’t be necessary - I would want to give enough information for the young person to be able to recognize a bad situation and avoid it, without actually, myself, being the cause of a mental trauma.

(And here’s what I don’t get. You can go to jail for talking about sex with a young person who is not your own child, because talking about sex traumatizes them - but then somehow, if you’re a teacher and the kids are in a classroom, it’s okay? Somehow, there is no mental trauma in that situation? :confused: )
 
jmcrae said:
Even then, graphic details shouldn’t be necessary - I would want to give enough information for the young person to be able to recognize a bad situation and avoid it, without actually, myself, being the cause of a mental trauma.
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Nothing in the OP sounded like these kids were getting graphic details.
 
TheTrueCentrist said:
Do kids know what cigarettes are and what they are for? Yes, but that hardly motivates them to try them. If a parent has a problem with condoms or premarital sex, that is something they should instill in their children. This sort of education can hardly be considered an undermining of parental authority.
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I would have the same objection if schools were teaching fifth graders the “proper” use of cigarettes, alcohol, crack cocaine, or street racing. You miss the point that we believe there is no “proper” use of condoms. When the school teaches that there is a “proper” use of condoms they are teaching a specific moral postition that is in error.
 
Trader said:
I would have the same objection if schools were teaching fifth graders the “proper” use of cigarettes, alcohol, crack cocaine, or street racing. You miss the point that we believe there is no “proper” use of condoms. When the school teaches that there is a “proper” use of condoms they are teaching a specific moral postition that is in error.
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There is a proper way, it is defined as the use that allows condoms to accomplish their intended function (i.e. prevent pregnancy / STDs.) You are saying that there is no moral application, however moral objections ought to come from a parent, not a public school teacher.

Notice that all your other examples have a commonality: they are illegal for children to do. We therefore have a clear reason for such subjects not to be taught in schools: the government is not going to teach kids how to do things it has decided are harmful to kids.
 
TheTrueCentrist said:
There is a proper way, it is defined as the use that allows condoms to accomplish their intended function (i.e. prevent pregnancy / STDs.) You are saying that there is no moral application, however moral objections ought to come from a parent, not a public school teacher.

Notice that all your other examples have a commonality: they are illegal for children to do. We therefore have a clear reason for such subjects not to be taught in schools: the government is not going to teach kids how to do things it has decided are harmful to kids.
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Did you somehow miss the fact that sex is illegal for 10 year olds? In some states it is called statutory rape, or child molestation, or contributing to the delinquency of a minor. There is no such thing as “proper” use of a condom by a ten year old, and teaching that there is qualifies as a moral judgement that no public school should be making.
 
TheTrueCentrist said:
Oh no, our children might know what condoms are and what they’re for?
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TEN YEAR olds DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT, need to know how to use a condom! most of them haven’t hit puberty, definitely are NOT interested in girls/boys yet and most assuredly are NOT DATING!

Why would a TEN YEAR old need to know how to use a condom?!?!?
 
Give TWO reasons why using a condom properly is important
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  1. A condom placed over the muzzle of your rifle will prevent water from collecting in the barrel, thus preventing a potenially fatal misfire when the weapon is discharged.
  2. A condom packed with C-4 is useful for exploding heavy locks, gates, enemy vehicle engines, and other demolition purposes—but improperly employed, can cause serious or fatal wounds and make you a casualty.
and describe THREE people or places that could give TJ accurate information about condom use.”
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  1. His company first sergeant.
  2. The demolitions specialist at his battalion, regimental, or brigade level.
  3. Technical Manual 31-210, “Improvised Munitions Handbook”.
 
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