"Filial correction"

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We were refused marriage by my husband’s Pastor because I was not a member of his parish.

I had no connection to a particular parish, and my husband was raised in his, receiving all the Sacraments there and was still serving at the altar when we got engaged.

It was all he wanted, to be married in HIS parish. His Pastor refused because I was not a member of said parish, and you “get married in the Bride’s church”.

When I said I would join his parish, he refused to let me because I did not “live” within the boundaries.
It broke my husband’s heart that he was so unreasonable, especially since he had been a faithful server since childhood.
 
The situation you were put in was wrong and you suffered unjustly, but Amoris Laetitia doesn’t apply to it at all. It doesn’t sound as though you had a first marriage that had not been declared null, so the question of receiving Communion while in a second marriage would not come up.

I’m glad you found a priest that was willing to help you through the difficult place you were put.

Peace and God bless!
 
My marriage was not “blessed”. It was Radically Sanated because the priest was, indeed, in the wrong.
 
AL is not just about 2nd marriages & annulments. That is but one part of it, and the one that seems to get the most press.
I have discussed the document with many priests, and all agree that these guidelines are long overdue.
 
Yes, that is a strange and awful sounding priest!

There are some rules about “Canonical Parish” but nothing that shouldn’t have been easily worked out for you two. Especially since your fiancé was a member! Crazy!

But yes, AL is very different than that situation.
 
Oneofthewomen said:
I have discussed the document with many priests, and all agree that these guidelines are long overdue.
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Your situation has nothing to do with Amoris Laetitia and could have been resolved 20 years ago if you’d written to the Bishop. I’m sorry this disgraceful thing happened to you and I think that priest was bang out of order, but your situation cannot be used to justify AL.
 
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I am not using it to “justify” anything! I am saying that not everything is as “black & white” as so many here want to believe it is. That is was AL is all about! (unless the priest & Bishops I have talked to about it are wrong.🤨:roll_eyes:)

Unless and until you are in a situation you can never know how it will affect you.
Be grateful that you have not been treated this way.
 
Oneofthewomen said:
Be grateful that you have not been treated this way.
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Believe me, I hear you. I haven’t been in your specific situation but my faith was almost extinguished by a priest who treat me terribly and broke the seal of confession. I didn’t attend Mass for months until a friend counselled me to speak to another priest. That priest explained canon law and helped me move past my issue. What am I trying to say? I’m saying that the Church has had bad Bishops and priests since Judas. Most lay Catholics have had negative experiences but remember that a single priest could very well be wrong. Injustices such as ours doesn’t mean that the Faith has to be changed; what has to be changed is the way people behave.

Again, I’m really sorry to hear your story and I’m glad you listened to the Holy Spirit and found a great priest.
 
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The issue of controversy over AL is that Pope Francis seems to be encouraging pastors, who are dealing with couples who are unable to convalidate/regularize their relationship to Sacramental Matrimony, to allow them to receive Holy Communion.
 
I agree that seems to be the issue, but that is only one part of AL, albeit, the one that has received the most press.
 
Obviously AL is about more than remarriage, but that is the controversial portion. Regardless, the portion in question is not relevant to your case.

The issue is under what circumstances can someone that is remarried without an annullment receive Communion, and we now have multiple, contradictory implementations of the same document with no correction nor clarification. What’s more, some implementations go directly against long-standing doctrine and practice.

Not all interpretations of AL are wrong, and not all liberalizations of the rules would contradict age-old doctrine and practice. Some are and do, however, and there is a growing demand for clarity from the Chair of Peter on the matter. After all, clarity of Faith is the point and purpose of the Papacy.
 
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The issue is under what circumstances can someone that is remarried without an annulment receive Communion,
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And that issue is for the Pastor of the souls in question to figure out, based on his understanding of the situation and Church law, not a bunch of arm-chair theologians who see everything in black & white.
 
Oneofthewomen said:
Unless and until you are in a situation you can never know how it will affect you.
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So true, especially a younger person. When I got married, I didn’t even know what a diocese was, so if Fr. had refused to marry us, I would have had no clue what to do, having never learned as a child the game of if one parent refuses, go ask the other, and if that fails, go get grandmother to guilt trip them. I probably would have ended up at city hall to marry, figuring that was my only option. Lucky me that Fr. gave me no trouble.
 
Oneofthewomen said:
And that issue is for the Pastor of the souls in question to figure out, based on his understanding of the situation and Church law, not a bunch of arm-chair theologians who see everything in black & white.
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I agree, but the Maltese Bishop’s Conference does not. They stated that it is up to the remarried person so long as they are at peace with God, and that the Pastor must provide the Sacraments based on that judgement and not their own.

This is the kind of contradictory message that can quickly get out of hand, and the Pope appears content to let the “mess” happen. That troubles me more than any particular canonical debate.
 
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I am a going to have to ask anyone who claims to be a priest or clergy or a theologian of any kind on this site for verification.
 
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That’s why sponsors and mentors should be taken advantage of.

And ideally, parents would be able to guide young adults where they are unfamiliar.
 
I don’t disagree. However, in the US, in my experience, there are not many that actually do know for certain what the Church teaches.
 
I think it’s best to treat everyone with equal respect, and show no partiality to clergy anyway.

But I know, in some situations, it would be important to know if someone is who they portray or claim to be.

Most of the time, I would expect a clergy to argue or inform with Church writings just like the rest of us.
 
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