"Filial correction"

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He almost certainly will ignore it. Which is just another move in the Great Game, which means the other side will probably counter the passive “veto” with an escalation. Passivity will eventually lead the same place as active confrontation: schism.
 
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and remember Cardinal Burke has spoken about the formal correction lately so it may be soon.
 
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ChunkMonk said:
This is a dangerous road to walk.
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Yes, clarity is quite dangerous. The cocoon of vague pronouncements is in jeopardy.
 
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ChunkMonk said:
He almost certainly will ignore it. Which is just another move in the Great Game, which means the other side will probably counter the passive “veto” with an escalation. Passivity will eventually lead the same place as active confrontation: schism.
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The way I’m reading your post you seem to be one step behind. This document was sent to Pope Francis months ago…he’s has ignored it. The escalation, was making the document public…and apparently open for signatures.
 
I hope Pope Francis would respond for the sake of the Faithful.

I myself haven’t read Amoris Laetitia but if a lot of theologians are already seeking clarification from him, why should he not respond? It seems unbecoming of a shepherd of the Church. But again, I might have missed something here since I haven’t read A.L. Maybe it’s self-explanatory. 😃
 
Ignoring the private letter was the obvious move. Thus the escalation of making it public. The next obvious move is to ignore it personally, and have proxies attack dismissively. Which then leads to the next move… Which is likely another escalation, the form of which remains to be seen.
 
Clarity can be dangerous. I’m not criticizing the move. Just calling it dangerous. I agree that the vague situation we’re currently in is untenable in the long run.
 
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I wouldn’t worry too much. This was to be expected. There are issues that need addressing, and may still need addressing for generations. That is how the Church evolves. There should be no criticism of those that speak in good conscience for the good of the Church if they believe the progress of the Church is leading us to heresy. That is one way we keep out.

However, to put this letter in perspective, there are over 400,000 priests and clergy. If four hundred signed this document, it would still be less than on tenth of one percent. Four hundred would also be a smaller group than the SSPX.

This is not downplaying the seriousness of this, just laying out the size and scope, since the news will have it looking like a major split.
 
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Well,well,Claire… get a cup of coffee and let us talk.

To begin with,our Bishops aren t there,and for the case not even one,nor Cardinal,nor Archbishops.

Second,what makes of a .org with a Latin name a " formal correction".?

Third,it is a Scribd type of petition of signatures. Anyone can use that feature.

Fourth,Cardinal Burke hasn’t signed it in case anyone is suffering a bit more than necessary.
Or at least know it.

And fifth, take a sip of coffee,and do not forget to pray for Mexico and all the Caribbean affected tonight .

Todo bien.
 
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All I can say on that is people are fed up with the excuses and people of all faiths and backgrounds abhor inconsistency and see hypocrisy as even worse.

If the Church fails to make its policies clear, then that alone with go a long ways towards countering Pope Francis’s unique outreach, and that would be unfortunate.
 
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But, evidently, a necessary one.

Whoever said being a Christian who follows one’s conscience would be easy?
 
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It’s even untenable even in the short run. The reason why people are fleeing lukewarm faiths to atheism or conservative non-denominational practices is because people cannot stand relativism or vagueness. People like a firm, logical approach.

I realize it’s not commonly expressed----indeed you’re probably more likely to hear “if only the Catholic Church would agree with me on XYZ so I can appease my friends/family and basically serve both God and mammon” than “gee, I wish the Church would stand on its old principle even if so and so said it was dry as bread”.

But it’s really not what most people think.
 
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Perhaps you can…
I skimmed through it,enough to find reason to have my dubias about the apparent clarity of that letter or whatever name they want to give it.
There must be an old story behind all this that escapes me…it doesn’t t make sense to me.
But I have a cold,Super Luigi,and little energy today.
Be well!
 
Wow, what a surprise. I haven’t read the entire letter yet, but so far it seems to be very, very well worded.

How can anyone object to such an entreaty?
 
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One of the ironies I see in this is how the same folks that failed to recognize just how rapidly the Church is moving in this age do not recognize this very move as one of the fruits of the information age. No, this would not have happened in the past of something like this. Heck, there wasn’t even a filial correction when salvation was being sold in the form of indulgences. Even in recent years we had a schism without this sort of action. Speaking of which, currently the SSPX is nine times larger than this group of correcting clergy.
 
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