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RGCheek
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He is apparently more concerned about spreading panic and giving fuel to anti-immigration sentiment.
These days Political Correctness trumps common sense and good policy.
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These days Political Correctness trumps common sense and good policy.
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Path_Finder
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Zmapp from a San Diego company has promise, sounds like it is made in part from tobacco leaves and mouse blood, honestly and kept at extremely cold temperatures. It was given to the Doctor in Africa who was working for Samaritan’s Purse, charitable organization Franklin Graham, Billy Graham’s son, is a part of. It helped the patient greatly.
edition.cnn.com/2014/08/04/health/ebola-drug-questions/index.html
edition.cnn.com/2014/08/04/health/ebola-drug-questions/index.html
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gilliam
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CNN reports that the number of potential primary and secondary contacts has grown to 100
edition.cnn.com/2014/10/02/health/ebola-us/index.html
edition.cnn.com/2014/10/02/health/ebola-us/index.html
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Vanny
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GaryTaylor
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Hazmat is now clearing the school one of the children who came in contact with the Dallas patient. Ebola also doesn’t die when it comes into contact with air for days. But in lab settings with an exceedingly high viral count HIV lives a few hours… The only reason it does live outside the body at all is because it has moisture. If the area is dry then HIV becomes inactive/dead very rapidly.
This is another grey area point.
The animals we can use Africa for a comparison but the cross reference of animals between here and Africa would need to be done.
Quarantined women who had contact with the Dallas patient said the CDC never removed the used sheets and towels from her home by the man. In the hospital this is never handled as such but with bio containers. She also said he was throwing up outside the home and doesn’t know who came in contact with this and there are/were children playing outside. She doesn’t think she has the virus but was the primary care giver here in the US. Hopefully she doesn’t get sick, the prescription is to monitor her temperature.
Thomas Duncan became very sick and very fast and the daughter then came from another home to take him to the hospital. Initially no one was quarantined but now only some are aside from the contamination handling. Though none can spread the virus until symptomatic. So we have no exact science on how we are handling this also.
No evidence of any preventative medicine or treatment as when symptomatic.
This is another grey area point.
The animals we can use Africa for a comparison but the cross reference of animals between here and Africa would need to be done.
Quarantined women who had contact with the Dallas patient said the CDC never removed the used sheets and towels from her home by the man. In the hospital this is never handled as such but with bio containers. She also said he was throwing up outside the home and doesn’t know who came in contact with this and there are/were children playing outside. She doesn’t think she has the virus but was the primary care giver here in the US. Hopefully she doesn’t get sick, the prescription is to monitor her temperature.
Thomas Duncan became very sick and very fast and the daughter then came from another home to take him to the hospital. Initially no one was quarantined but now only some are aside from the contamination handling. Though none can spread the virus until symptomatic. So we have no exact science on how we are handling this also.
No evidence of any preventative medicine or treatment as when symptomatic.
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Vanny
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You can’t catch HIV from people throwing up on you. You can only catch it through sexual intercourse, blood transfusions,and sharing needles. We know that now-even though we didn’t know it back in 1985.
Ebola seems like it’s easier to catch than Aids. it may not be airborne, but still easier to catch than AIDs
I guess we will have to see if anyone else comes down with it-I hope not.
I heard there are now 100 people they are looking at that he may have had contact with.
Ebola seems like it’s easier to catch than Aids. it may not be airborne, but still easier to catch than AIDs
I guess we will have to see if anyone else comes down with it-I hope not.
I heard there are now 100 people they are looking at that he may have had contact with.
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DeniseNY
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Dallas Ebola patient vomited outside apartment on way to hospital
news.yahoo.com/dallas-ebola-patient-vomited-outside-apartment-way-hospital-064730195–finance.html
news.yahoo.com/dallas-ebola-patient-vomited-outside-apartment-way-hospital-064730195–finance.html
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Beautiful
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pbs.org/newshour/bb/u-s-equipped-isolate-ebola/
And I am thinking it is tough to hold flatulence in when you are running.
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And I am thinking it is tough to hold flatulence in when you are running.
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manmark
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CNN discussed some interesting talking points this morning.
While CNN was discussing national preparedness with their guests, there were references to the implementation of national guidelines created in 2006; Federal direction to local authorities was vaguely mentioned.
I am concerned that this type of contagion - if it does become widespread could lead to the suspension of civil rights and usher in marshall law and the use of the famed FEMA camps for quarantine. Any thoughts?
While CNN was discussing national preparedness with their guests, there were references to the implementation of national guidelines created in 2006; Federal direction to local authorities was vaguely mentioned.
I am concerned that this type of contagion - if it does become widespread could lead to the suspension of civil rights and usher in marshall law and the use of the famed FEMA camps for quarantine. Any thoughts?
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Beautiful
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Ebola and a number of things could set off marshall law and use of the many FEMA camps so many have witnessed going up.
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pnewton
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Of course they will continue, as new index cases arise. The disease in its current form can be controlled though by using the same methods.
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Path_Finder
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There certainly are concerns it could mutate to become airborne. Hasn’t even HIV mutated?
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GaryTaylor
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Right aside for the similar aspects Ebola spreads much easier.
google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CD4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hiv.va.gov%2Fpatient%2Fbasics%2Fhow-HIV-spread.asp&ei=0XktVLTIJo-iyASZvICwBA&usg=AFQjCNEw6hXZyKF6Zy93zQwu0vLvH-sFmw&sig2=F2qNi-vmfAX9R7BrTyLcww
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exnihilo
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It is definitely true that the media, by its very nature, needs scary stories to drive readership. But it does seem that Ebola is not difficult to spread. According to reports the man in Texas had contact with a woman in Liberia who had it. The woman is dead as are many of her family members. That is a pretty high infection along with fatality rate. Apparently it is not difficult to get Ebola if you are around someone who has it. Therefore anyone around someone who has it should be really worried. Hence the hazmat suits.
If you don’t travel to Africa and if our government doesn’t continue to allow people from the infected region to travel to the US freely without quarantine then I agree, you shouldn’t be worried. There have been at least two people who had Ebola who were intending to travel to the US. One made it the other didn’t. If you happened to be on the plane with someone who had it you would have a real risk of getting it yourself.
It seems to me sensible to have an abundance of caution until you do know the real risks. Why be a guinea pig? Why trust government officials who are almost always wrong or have motives other than your personal safety? From what we do know of Ebola it is easy to get if you are in contact with someone who has it and it is very deadly. This isn’t the common cold which is easy to get but not deadly at all. I’d be less worried if there were measures put in place to prevent spread to the US.
As I recall my grandfathers family was quarantined during a flu outbreak. Why not impose such a simple measure on people returning from the Ebola region? That is all it would take to make me not worry.
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chero23
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Iagree this area is not to secure right now to be having patients travel freely. I wouldn’t say we are being racist if we do this, just be secure.
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jen_fla
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The vomit he left outside is a very serious concern. I think it’s safe to assume a) it was just left there for hours on end for every dog/cat to come lick, rodent to walk through or insect to land in or b) that a neighbor hosed it down which would just spread the virus around further. We know it infects mammals and all it takes is one to go spreading it off to others.
I think Ebola is far easier to catch than they are letting on. Look at the doctors who came down with it after knowing what precautions to take. I’m not trying to fear monger, but in all earnestness, this disease is called the human slate wiper and if ever there was an issue to be fearful about this is it. It will be a miracle if we don’t hear of more infections within the next two weeks. Lord help us all and may the minds of our brightest scientists come up with a vaccine/remedy.
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chero23
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Oh I totally agree with youHey, I am ready for eternal retirement.
I think…
better get to confession again just in case.
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chero23
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God willing this is not another case.
I wonder if any other country has had a person come in with Ebola.
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Path_Finder
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You say it the way it happens, I don’t say this one story to gross one out, I was once on a cross-country bus ride. I sat in the bus, at one point every one got out of the bus, they were getting off as I sat in the back of the bus but before everyone got off, this one poor little child vomited on the floor, he was one of the last to leave the bus and then, after they all had gotten off, a bunch of new passengers boarded and some just walked right through it. Kind of a gross story but that’s the way it happens.
Those kinds of things can happen at kid’s school bus stops, etc.
Dogs and Cats, yes, it sounds like animals can spread it as well.
I recently heard a study of what one finds on the bottom of one’s shoe. Be it safe to say, some of the results aren’t that pleasant to hear.
After the hysteria of HIV in the '80s and '90s, I think I’m able to shove some of the basic paranoia aside.
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chero23
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Yes this is bad, plus the ambulance was still in use for 2 more shifts. Rescue 37 is a busy ambulance, so several other people were in the ambulance. Taht could be bad.
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