No not racist or xenophobic a country has a right to protect its citizens from harm and danger including deadly disease. Two countries in Africa have banned travel from Liberia, Kenya and Ghana.Iagree this area is not to secure right now to be having patients travel freely. I wouldn’t say we are being racist if we do this, just be secure.
Like Richard Preston said in his book about Ebola, *The Hot Zone, *You say it the way it happens, I don’t say this one story to gross one out, I was once on a cross-country bus ride. I sat in the bus, at one point every one got out of the bus, they were getting off as I sat in the back of the bus but before everyone got off, this one poor little child vomited on the floor, he was one of the last to leave the bus and then, after they all had gotten off, a bunch of new passengers boarded and some just walked right through it. Kind of a gross story but that’s the way it happens.
Those kinds of things can happen at kid’s school bus stops, etc.
Dogs and Cats, yes, it sounds like animals can spread it as well.
I recently heard a study of what one finds on the bottom of one’s shoe. Be it safe to say, some of the results aren’t that pleasant to hear.
After the hysteria of HIV in the '80s and '90s, I think I’m able to shove some of the basic paranoia aside.
Oh I totally agree with you. I said that because as a society as a whole especially in this country we are very scared and use a lot of political correctness.No not racist or xenophobic a country has a right to protect its citizens from harm and danger including deadly disease. Two countries in Africa have banned travel from Liberia, Kenya and Ghana.
I would be saying the exact same thing if the disease had it’s origins in , say, Norway.
Would you include quarantining people who fly out of DFW? If not, how many cases would you say would it take you to quarantine Texas, or at least Dallas, and shut DFW down?As I recall my grandfathers family was quarantined during a flu outbreak. Why not impose such a simple measure on people returning from the Ebola region? That is all it would take to make me not worry.
So do you think the FEMA camps are going to be used for something bad, apocalyptic?Ebola and a number of things could set off marshall law and use of the many FEMA camps so many have witnessed going up.
Something would need to reach civil unrest to an alarming level, which this hasn’t done here anyway. But the woman is legally contained in her own home, she can’t leave and was left with contaminated items in which the virus can live for days.So do you think the FEMA camps are going to be used for something bad, apocalyptic?
Dr. Gil Mobley checked in and cleared airport security wearing a mask, goggles, gloves, boots and a hooded white jumpsuit emblazoned on the back with the words, **“CDC is lying!”
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“If they’re not lying, they are grossly incompetent,” said Mobley, a microbiologist and emergency trauma physician from Springfield, Mo.
CHEAP FLIGHTS FROM LIBERIA TO WASHINGTON DC AVAILABLE AMID EBOLA CRISIS
breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/10/2/Cheap-Flights-From-Liberia-to-Washington-DC-Available-Amid-Ebola-CrisisDespite the recent Ebola case in Dallas, involving a man who had recently flown to the US from Liberia, federal authorities have no plans to ban flights from countries with significant Ebola outbreaks. In fact, a simple search on Trip Advisor shows that anyone can buy a plane ticket from Liberia to Washington, DC for a relatively low price.
She and another person must live days in an apartment with no washer/dryer. I assume she has no washer/dryer because I read she is still using the sheets Duncan slept on and she bagged the towels he used. Sanitation arrangements of some kind must be underway. I hope.Something would need to reach civil unrest to an alarming level, which this hasn’t done here anyway. But the woman is legally contained in her own home, she can’t leave and was left with contaminated items in which the virus can live for days.
Liberia is prosecuting the Dallas man when he returns, apparently he lied on the medical checklist before boarding which is another issue.
I read that too. If someone is desperate enough, they will lie.Liberia plans to sue the patient from Liberia because he lied on the screening form by saying he had not had contact with anyone who had ebola or had died of ebola. So obviously there is not a 100% way to screen passengers before they leave these west African countries.
So far there have been no cases, that we know of, of a person leaving Dallas, or Texas, or the US, with Ebola. There have however been two cases of people trying to get to the US from Ebola countries. I really don’t see what the problem is with quarantining people. It has been done throughout history for far less deadly diseases. Obviously we can’t trust people to be responsible since this man knowingly touched and handled someone in advanced stages of Ebola and then jumped on a plane. It may someday be necessary to quarantine places in America, but it won’t be if the ‘authorities’ do what they should do now and quarantine people from Africa where Ebola is raging.Would you include quarantining people who fly out of DFW? If not, how many cases would you say would it take you to quarantine Texas, or at least Dallas, and shut DFW down?
The problem with incarceration is that it is an extreme step. Sure, there are times it could be necessary. Twenty-one days of quarantine will nearly stop all air traffic. So the question remains, should we now shut down DFW? If not, how many new case would justify this same step for Americans? Three? Ten?I really don’t see what the problem is with quarantining people. It has been done throughout history for far less deadly diseases. Obviously we can’t trust people to be responsible since this man knowingly touched and handled someone in advanced stages of Ebola and then jumped on a plane. It may someday be necessary to quarantine places in America, but it won’t be if the ‘authorities’ do what they should do now and quarantine people from Africa where Ebola is raging.
The GOP isn’t much better. Sycophants and opportunists run both parties. Statesmen are extinct in the major parties.Who chooses or nominates the CDC Director? Does the president choose the director?
Thomas Frieden is a democrat. So we are in trouble. He will be the Eric Holder of health.
I was thinking about this a little more.Liberia plans to sue the patient from Liberia because he lied on the screening form by saying he had not had contact with anyone who had ebola or had died of ebola. So obviously there is not a 100% way to screen passengers before they leave these west African countries.
This is more troubling to me than it appears to be to the CDC. They say this man had potentially infectious contact with some 80 people; all of whom are now being “monitored” (whatever that means). But suppose, over time, 80 infected people come here. There doesn’t seem to be anything to prevent it. And perhaps, over time, 800 from west Africa or other places to which people who have been in west Africa go next? Maybe more? Imagine where we would be if Ebola had become widespread in Central America or even in northern Mexico a few months ago.I was thinking about this a little more.
Maybe it is not a good move to make this so public at this point. Suppose others are here or elsewhere with the same condition as Duncan. Suddenly they are in a lose/lose situation. They might keep themselves and illness under the radar causing even more people to be infected.
Incarceration is not an extreme step when you are dealing with a deadly communicable disease. Again, this has been done throughout history. Immigrants to America were quarantined at one time.The problem with incarceration is that it is an extreme step. Sure, there are times it could be necessary. Twenty-one days of quarantine will nearly stop all air traffic. So the question remains, should we now shut down DFW? If not, how many new case would justify this same step for Americans? Three? Ten?
I think the step the CDC is taking is a good one, addressing the screening problem at the source.
Unfortunately under this administration they only seem to be incompetent and create more mess and chaos. There are still some statesmen left, but you won’t find them in the higher echelon of this administration.The GOP isn’t much better. Sycophants and opportunists run both parties. Statesmen are extinct in the major parties.