First case of Ebola in the US

[TaurusRex]

Patient was released, allowed to go home and made contact with ~100 people including 8 children from 5 different schools.
Where’s congress? Where’s Senator Lindsey Graham?

Not still wasting taxpayer money on Benghazi I hope,

rex

grotto:

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Not still wasting taxpayer money on Benghazi I hope, rex

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This remark is not related in any way to the Ebola outbreak and why suggest Benghazi could possibly be a waste of taxpayer money? The lies and deceit surrounding the horrible terrorist attack in Benghazi are the result of the President and his administration. Do you support the slandering of the American people by blaming them for a U-tube video mocking Islam? Really? Do you believe all the lies and condone sneaking around the truth?

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This remark is not related in any way to the Ebola outbreak and why suggest Benghazi could possibly be a waste of taxpayer money? The lies and deceit surrounding the horrible terrorist attack in Benghazi are the result of the President and his administration. Do you support the slandering of the American people by blaming them for a U-tube video mocking Islam? Really? Do you believe all the lies and condone sneaking around the truth?

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rhetoric?show=0&t=1412304815

rhet·o·ric
noun \ˈre-tə-rik\
: language that is intended to influence people and that may not be honest or reasonable
: the art or skill of speaking or writing formally and effectively especially as a way to persuade or influence people

cbsnews.com/news/state-department-defends-benghazi-decisions/

Patrick Kennedy, the State Department’s undersecretary for management, faced questioning for the first time since a Republican House committee report faulted him in his management role at the State Department for security lapses leading up to the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attacks on Americans in Benghazi, Libya.

Republicans pummeled Kennedy while Democrats largely defended him and the State Department. Questions ranged from why four of Kennedy’s subordinates faced disciplinary action for “leadership” failures, while Kennedy and other more senior officials did not; to why Kennedy did not wish to deploy an inter-agency emergency response team.

A Republican House Oversight Committee report released Monday quoted State Department witnesses as saying it was Kennedy who authorized the temporary nature of the Benghazi compound, which left State Department diplomatic security “struggling” to provide adequate resources; that Kennedy approved the exemption of the Benghazi special mission from State Department physical security guidelines; and that it was Kennedy’s decision to send home the 16-man military security team the Defense Department had offered to provide at no cost to the State Department.

At Wednesday’s hearing, Kennedy also acknowledged publicly for the first time what CBS News reported last May: that he advised against deploying the government’s interagency Foreign Emergency Support Team known as “FEST.”
“The ARB downplayed Kennedy’s role in the decision-making that led to the inadequate security posture in Benghazi,” concluded the Republican report.

It is unfortunate imho that supposedly intelligent folks can’t recognize the use of rhetoric and may actually value the lives lost in Benghazi more than the possible loss of many American children here in America …

Hope that ends the Benghazi sidetrack and I did provide the part played by Patrick Kennedy back when we debated it.

PS:
Get on the ball congress and insist travelers to the USA from Africa be quarantined for a month before allowed passage.

rex

 

[Path_Finder]

Ebola is deadly and can be transmitted far more easily than HIV. Even the WHO acknowledged people were getting it from taxi cabs. HIV is bio safety level 2, Anthrax is level 3 and Ebola and Marburgh are bio safety level 4 (the highest).

I doubt the NBC camerman who just became infected ever laid a hand on anyone who appeared sick. Now we have the 5th American w/Ebola and his coworkers flying back.

nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/nbc-news-freelancer-africa-diagnosed-ebola-n217271

So the important thing seems to watch out for open cuts that one has on their body, the arm or wherever and be careful of rubbing the eyes and I guess what goes into the mouth. Of course, I don’t want to be alarmist, it doesn’t hurt to be safe though.

I sometimes go to a health club, the way people sweat at health clubs or if one goes to the park, public drinking fountains, one doesn’t want to be paranoid but there is quite a bit to consider, this is much worse than HIV though they do seem to have some promising cures.

 

[RGCheek]

So the important thing seems to watch out for open cuts that one has on their body, the arm or wherever and be careful of rubbing the eyes and I guess what goes into the mouth. Of course, I don’t want to be alarmist, it doesn’t hurt to be safe though.

I sometimes go to a health club, the way people sweat at health clubs or if one goes to the park, public drinking fountains, one doesn’t want to be paranoid but there is quite a bit to consider, this is much worse than HIV though they do seem to have some promising cures.

I still have no confidence in our second tier hospitals.

propublica.org/article/how-many-die-from-medical-mistakes-in-us-hospitals

In 2010, the Office of Inspector General for Health and Human Services said that bad hospital care contributed to the deaths of 180,000 patients in Medicare alone in a given year.

Now comes a study in the current issue of the Journal of Patient Safety that says the numbers may be much higher — between 210,000 and 440,000 patients each year who go to the hospital for care suffer some type of preventable harm that contributes to their death, the study says.

That would make medical errors the third-leading cause of death in America, behind heart disease, which is the first, and cancer, which is second.

hivehealthmedia.com/hospital-related-infections-sixth-leading-death-usa/

Many patients who come for some minor surgeries unfortunately become victims of hospital infections due to improper hygiene maintenance. The staff are sometimes negligent about the sterilization of OT equipments, fumigation and sterilization procedures. This gives rise to very potent bacteria such as Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA). These MRSA infections prove to be deadly and of acquired, result in sure death. Approximately, 250.000 infections are acquired from catheters every year, of which 31,000 lead to inevitable death.

Maybe they should regulate hospitals more closely and start putting negligent personnel in jail instead of depending solely on lawsuits.

But if these hospitals cant handle MRSA how can they handle Ebola?

 

[jen_fla]

So the important thing seems to watch out for open cuts that one has on their body, the arm or wherever and be careful of rubbing the eyes and I guess what goes into the mouth. Of course, I don’t want to be alarmist, it doesn’t hurt to be safe though.

I sometimes go to a health club, the way people sweat at health clubs or if one goes to the park, public drinking fountains, one doesn’t want to be paranoid but there is quite a bit to consider, this is much worse than HIV though they do seem to have some promising cures.

The important thing is to make sure no one else in America (outside the ones being monitored) becomes infected. If God forbid, this did take off your gym would be closed. And I say outside the ones being monitored because the people who have already been in contact with Duncan are already harboring the virus or not. We’ll know in a couple more weeks.

 

[RGCheek]

Over 3,500 passengers from Ebola affected nations have been allowed to enter the U.S. without any special screening since January 1, 2014, according to a leaked internal intelligence report from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Office of Intelligence and Liaison exclusively obtained by Breitbart Texas. In addition, the individuals entered into at least 18 heavily populated U.S. cities across the nation.

The leaked report specifically reads, “According to CBP [Customs and Border Protection] data, since January 1, 2014 to June 30, 2014, a total of 3,566 passengers with a nexus to Guinea transited through or arrived at U.S. airports.” The term “nexus” refers to passengers who flew from the Ebola stricken nation to a second nation, and then from the second nation into the United States.

breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/10/02/Exclusive-Thousands-from-Ebola-Nations-Allowed-to-Enter-US-Without-Additional-Screening

What happened in Dallas could have happened anywhere in the USA.

More on the Ebola outbreak from Drudge:
politico.com/story/2014/10/ebola-us-border-111581.html

Tom Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, on Friday said restricting travel between the U.S. and West Africa would likely “backfire” and put Americans more at risk of contracting Ebola.

nytimes.com/2014/10/03/us/dallas-ebola-case-thomas-duncan-contacts.html?_r=0

The officials said it had been difficult to find a contractor willing to enter the apartment to clean it and remove bedding and clothes, which they said had been bagged in plastic. They said they now had hired a firm that would do the work soon. The Texas health commissioner, Dr. David Lakey, told reporters during an afternoon news conference that officials had encountered “a little bit of hesitancy” in seeking a firm to clean the apartment.

nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/nbc-news-freelancer-africa-diagnosed-ebola-n217271

independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/ebola-virus-pandemic-should-be-treated-the-same-way-as-threat-posed-by-nuclear-weapons-security-officials-say-9771219.html

The Ebola virus spreading exponentially across Africa and killing thousands of people “will get worse”, the Government has admitted, amid calls for the full involvement of the international military to contain the disease.
Justine Greening, the International Development Secretary, said that ministers had been shocked by a prediction from the US public health institute ***that 1.4 million people ***may be infected by the virus by January if it continues unchecked.

 

[7_Sorrows]

I hope the rest of the cities in the united states are better prepared than Dallas.

 

[grotto]

It may not be Ebola but there are some pretty severe illnesses happening. The children are seriously ill from some virus (one child died). The usual colds and flu are gearing up. I notice people are using the antiseptic wipes when entering super markets to use on the shopping carts. I hope the gels and wipes are up to the task. Money gives me the creeps. Just think about how it gets around.

I think the “cat is out of the bag” for Ebola. To count on it not infecting another unless symptoms are displayed is not going to cut it. Think about the airplanes the ill person rode on for hours and many others shared the recirculated air and surfaces. Proceed through the airport, the bus or taxi, rental car, etc. The CDC overdid the message of no concern about airborne. Why not airborne? A good sneeze, cough, sweaty hands?

We NEED to shut the barn door. Cancel the visas and lock the borders!

 

[exnihilo]

The United States is an ebola country now.

If by that you mean a country where a person is first diagnosed with Ebola. The US is still not, we hope, a country where a person has gotten Ebola. That could well change since this catastrophic failure to use quarantine for people entering the US from Ebola nations.

If you lock people up for three weeks it will stop travel. Would spend three weeks incarcerated to travel?

Not many people which is exactly the point. Only people who had a real, urgent need would travel to and from these infected countries. It would hopefully stop some guy who wants to visit his girlfriend and would lie on travel forms about his contact with Ebola.

Quarantine does allow people who are going there to assist to travel there. It does allow them to return. They just have to spend time in quarantine. Again, this has been done in the past and is not a novel solution. Not to mention at one time long distance travel itself could take more than three weeks. This is no great imposition other than upon our modern expectations.

This is not truth. They are taking action. There is a team in Liberia as we speak teaching the people there proper screening to prevent the spread of the disease.

That is not something only the CDC does. The medical staff who got Ebola and returned to the US were not agents of the CDC. Also, do they really need to still be training people since as I understand it Ebola has been around for over twenty years. Is there anything new in the techniques? Why don’t the people of these countries already know what to do and why don’t they do it?

I see bravery in these souls that are willing to get down in the trenches and on the front lines. I guess they do not expect a medal, but a little gratitude would be in order. Calling them useless and say they aren’t doing anything is not right, even if it is just because you are scared.

They are risking far more than the guy walking through the airport in a hazmat suit looking like a fool.

I am not scared. If anything I am angry at the incompetence. I think anyone actually in the infected region helping is doing something very kind and worthy of praise. The CDC itself is a political organization. It is an arm of the government. It does not exist to protect my life. I don’t trust it nor should anyone.

 

[Vanny]

Omigosh! And they expect us to find comfort in this?

One really troubling thing. If, as they say, human waste is a source of infection and should be burned, um, how are we going to burn the absolutely omnipresent animal waste in the environment? Since CDC believes there are animal or insect vectors, but don’t know which ones they are, are we perhaps not supposed to mow our lawns, which throws animal waste and insect parts into the air? Are we supposed to wear rubber overshoes when walking and then douse them in chlorine. Are we supposed to get finer screens for our windows so no midges (they do carry disease) can possibly get in?

Glad I live in a part of the country where it’s getting cold and windows will be closed and we’ll be getting a snow cover so no more lawn mowing. On the bright side I found a web site where you can buy sanitation items, and a deluxe pandemic kit including hazmat suits on sale. I’m only partly kidding.

 

[Vanny]

So the important thing seems to watch out for open cuts that one has on their body, the arm or wherever and be careful of rubbing the eyes and I guess what goes into the mouth. Of course, I don’t want to be alarmist, it doesn’t hurt to be safe though.

I sometimes go to a health club, the way people sweat at health clubs or if one goes to the park, public drinking fountains, one doesn’t want to be paranoid but there is quite a bit to consider, this is much worse than HIV though they do seem to have some promising cures.

About health clubs-I used to go to the wellness center attached to our hospital to work out on the machines and use the treadmill during the winter months as it’s too cold/snowy to (power) walk here in the hard winter. The have signs all over with spray bottles to wipe down machines and equipment and to use the hand sanitizer. they started that a few years ago. I was talking to someone who used the center before they pushed that and he said he got a terrible(I believe) staff infection in his hand due to a cut he had-suspected it came from there. so yes it’s a possibility. I quit going this year as my new insurance doesn’t pay for the membership but I was thinking of starting up again-maybe not, now.

 

[Vanny]

It may not be Ebola but there are some pretty severe illnesses happening. The children are seriously ill from some virus (one child died). The usual colds and flu are gearing up. I notice people are using the antiseptic wipes when entering super markets to use on the shopping carts. I hope the gels and wipes are up to the task. Money gives me the creeps. Just think about how it gets around.

I think the “cat is out of the bag” for Ebola. To count on it not infecting another unless symptoms are displayed is not going to cut it. Think about the airplanes the ill person rode on for hours and many others shared the recirculated air and surfaces. Proceed through the airport, the bus or taxi, rental car, etc. The CDC overdid the message of no concern about airborne. Why not airborne? A good sneeze, cough, sweaty hands?

We NEED to shut the barn door. Cancel the visas and lock the borders!

agree. Bill O Reilly had a good talking points on last night about banning flights from West Africa. I know some here may not like him but he was right on last night.
and what if you were just flying from say Dulles to Dallas? You may not even think you would be exposed to someone with Ebola.

I remember when AIDS first came out. I think Ebola is far different. With AIDS it became apparent pretty fast that there were only three ways you could catch it-sexual intercourse, blood transfusion and sharing needles. You could care for a dying AIDS patient and never catch it.

 

[Path_Finder]

I read an article earlier, ebola appears so potent, even if the patient like Thomas Duncan uses the bathroom and flushes the toilet, is this virus even contained in the sewer system. I hadn’t even thought of that. It’s clear to see in places with less of an infrastructure how this would be a problem. Consider that in a number of 3rd world nations if not actually many places, you still basically have “outhouses” vs. running water. A bit of a tangent but an interesting point.

 

[RGCheek]

I read an article earlier, ebola appears so potent, even if the patient like Thomas Duncan uses the bathroom and flushes the toilet, is this virus even contained in the sewer system. I hadn’t even thought of that. It’s clear to see in places with less of an infrastructure how this would be a problem. Consider that in a number of 3rd world nations if not actually many places, you still basically have “outhouses” vs. running water. A bit of a tangent but an interesting point.

groundwater.org/get-informed/groundwater/contamination.html

Onsite wastewater disposal systems used by homes, offices or other buildings that are not connected to a city sewer system. Septic systems are designed to slowly drain away human waste underground at a slow, harmless rate. An improperly designed, located, constructed, or maintained septic system can leak bacteria, viruses, household chemicals, and other contaminants into the groundwater causing serious problems.
Uncontrolled Hazardous Waste
In the U.S. today, there are thought to be over 20,000 known abandoned and uncontrolled hazardous waste sites and the numbers grow every year. Hazardous waste sites can lead to groundwater contamination if there are barrels or other containers laying around that are full of hazardous materials. If there is a leak, these contaminants can eventually make their way down through the soil and into the groundwater.
Landfills
Landfills are the places that our garbage is taken to be buried. Landfills are supposed to have a protective bottom layer to prevent contaminants from getting into the water. However, if there is no layer or it is cracked, contaminants from the landfill (car battery acid, paint, household cleaners, etc.) can make their way down into the groundwater.

wasserklinik.com/viren-im-trinkwasser-2/?lang=en

The water research shows, Viruses in drinking water are the cause of the transmission

In drinking water in Germany are often faeces. Warns the Bavarian State Office for Health and Food Safety: "Exceedances in fecal bacteria drinking water regulations are in 25%, im Sommer sogar into 33% the drinking water samples. In the basic- Bavaria and drinking water are regularly detected Legionella. "Elsewhere in Germany that will be much different.

Dangerous viruses in drinking water

Intestinal parasites and viruses in drinking water can be detected efficiently with a new procedure. Researchers from the University of Zurich have applied the method to groundwater and surface water. They were able to excitation of gastric- discover and intestinal disease grofler number. Prof… Dr. of. know. Alfred Metzler, Institute of Virology, University of Zurich.

Are modern water purification methods sufficient to prevent the spread of Ebola through our groundwater?

 

[Beautiful]

Originally Posted by Beautiful View Post
breitbart.com/Breitbart-T…d-Ebola-Crisis

Maybe if a few airlines run a special sale on flights from Liberia to DC…

Yes. Let’s make it easier for them to come here for treatment.

Howard University Hospital in Washington has admitted a patient with symptoms “that could be associated with Ebola,” hospital spokeswoman Kerry-Ann Hamilton said Friday. The patient, who was not named, recently traveled to Nigeria and presented with the symptoms upon his or her return, she said. The patient is in stable condition.

cnn.com/2014/10/03/health/ebola-us/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Wow that was fast! A ‘possible’ from Nigeria

 

[Path_Finder]

Possible Ebola Patient Being Treated at D.C. Hospital

Read more: nbcwashington.com/news/local/Patient-With-Ebola-Like-Symptoms-Being-Treated-at-Howard-University-Hospital-278025181.html#ixzz3F6Mce5sg
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“In an abundance of caution, we have activated the appropriate infection control protocols, including isolating the patient,” said hospital spokesperson Kerry-Ann Hamilton in a statement. “Our medical team continues to evaluate and monitor progress in close collaboration with the CDC and the Department of Health.”

An “abundance of caution”.

Came in from Nigeria.

 

[Lormar]

Rob
I understand you.
My descendants, like many others, had to stop at Ellis Island and go through humiliating tests that often times sent them floating back to where they came from.
We KNOW there is a serious problem in West Africa. Everyone who must come from that region to US should be held in 3-4 week isolation before mainstreaming.
It is a no-brainer.

My descendants also. In fact, in 1910, my grandfather was almost sent back to Europe because he had one leg shorter than the other. Can you believe it?

 

[RGCheek]

When I read about Ebola lately this song keeps coming to mind.

youtube.com/watch?v=9vST6hVRj2A

Hmm, guess it kind of ties in, but I pray our hubris is not so towering that we fall due to it.

James 4:13-17 seems fairly topical right now.

13 Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go into such and such a town and spend a year there and trade and get gain”; 14 whereas you do not know about tomorrow. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes. 15 Instead you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we shall live and we shall do this or that.” 16 As it is, you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil. 17 Whoever knows what is right to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin.

A mist indeed.

 

[Layp3rs0n]

And in Washington DC. Pray people! nbcwashington.com/news/local/Patient-With-Ebola-Like-Symptoms-Being-Treated-at-Howard-University-Hospital-278025181.html

 

[Beautiful]

My descendants also. In fact, in 1910, my grandfather was almost sent back to Europe because he had one leg shorter than the other. Can you believe it?

My Grandparents and Parents have moved on to new life now…God rest their souls.

They left endearing stories about adjustments necessary to be an American. Times HAVE change!

I believe today and the next 3 days we might be seeing the other shoe drop. Those possibly infected people quarantined in Texas might start being symptomatic.

 

[Path_Finder]

groundwater.org/get-informed/groundwater/contamination.html

wasserklinik.com/viren-im-trinkwasser-2/?lang=en

Are modern water purification methods sufficient to prevent the spread of Ebola through our groundwater?

Thank you so much for doing the footwork on this. It is a good question.