Fla.'s 'Father Oprah' joins Episcopal Church

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i have seen Father Cutie in a couple of interviews. maybe the celebrity of being a Father Oprah went to his head a little. he seems to love this woman and has chosen to leave the Catholic church and join the Episcopal church and pursue the priesthood there. someday, he may look back and realize the mistakes he made, but this seems to be the path he feels God is calling him to now, so i wish him the best.
 
i have seen Father Cutie in a couple of interviews. maybe the celebrity of being a Father Oprah went to his head a little. he seems to love this woman and has chosen to leave the Catholic church and join the Episcopal church and pursue the priesthood there. someday, he may look back and realize the mistakes he made, but this seems to be the path he feels God is calling him to now, so i wish him the best.
God does not call His priests to leave the Catholic Church, shack up with women, give in to carnal lust, and celebrate sacrilegious masses while in a state of sin.

Doesn’t do that. Devil calls them to do that. Satan. Big difference.
 
Father Cutie has made a mockery of his priesthood and of the Catholic Church…he not only has committed a sin (premarital sex)…and breaking of his vow of celibacy but he is turning his back upon the very Church he vowed to uphold. I am very disappointed in him and the diocese that has allowed Father Cutie to continue his agenda for his own fame and power…
As a Catholic and a sinner in my own right…I would never think to leave my Church and Faith for another just to justify and continue my sin thru the support of others. What a hypocrisy!!
 
i have seen Father Cutie in a couple of interviews. maybe the celebrity of being a Father Oprah went to his head a little. he seems to love this woman and has chosen to leave the Catholic church and join the Episcopal church and pursue the priesthood there. someday, he may look back and realize the mistakes he made, but this seems to be the path he feels God is calling him to now, so i wish him the best.
Man I hate it when people do things contrary to the Church and blame God for calling them to do this to do that!

:okpeople: It’s your ego man!

Want to know what God is really calling us to do, just read the catechism.
 
How horrible! I hope he is excommunicated for the sake of his own soul!
 
I am surprised he has made this decision. There is nothing worth leaving the Catholic Church for. My husband assumes his girlfriend is pregnant; hence the haste with which this decision was made.
 
Well, I hate to say it, but the Protestant churches have been our trash receptacle for 400 years now. I’m grateful that the Church can remain pure in its teachings, even when men who claim to be of God are incapable of remaining pure… It’s a shame for the good and solid Christians in the Protestant churches, that they have to take our weakest members and we get their strongest as converts, but there it is.
 
Well, he’s right about that.
Let’s see…

Catholic Church founded in 33 AD by Jesus Christ
Anglican Church founded in 1534 AD by Henry VIII
Episcopal Church founded in 1789 AD by Samuel Seabury

History isn’t lying here as these dates are universally accepted as being accurate. Now as I see it… only ONE Church listed above has God as its founder and it ain’t the last two entries. 😉
 
Of course, this is a can of worms too. Are they lucky if they start receiving the Eucharist without ever having received valid confirmation or reconciliation? Scripture says some rather scary things about receiving Communion unworthily… Sickness and death resulted, IIRC! Not that this literally happens much anymore (or we’d have a lot of corpses piled up after mass at catholic churches!), but the principle is clear: Get right with God BEFORE coming to the table, not BY coming to the table.

No, I’m not sure this is a bright side either. 😦
Manualman:

You’re forgetting that no one needs Confirmation to receive the Sacrament of Penance, and that you don’t have to be a Bishop to hear Confessions and to give Absolution. Most Episcopalians are familiar with the Sacrament of Penance and know how to use it, and unlike most Episcopal priests, Fr. Cutie would be able to give Absolution.

The only question is whether he will encourage his congregation to use the Sacrament, and whether his congregation would avail themselves of this wonderful healing Sacrament provided by our Lord for the remission of sins and the healing of our souls.

It’s not good to hold others to standards we don’t hold ourselves to. Can you honestly say most Catholics are using the Sacrament of Reconciliation enough that they aren’t “receiving communion unworthily”?

The Elephant in the Communion Line
NC Register – Nov. 26 - Dec. 2, 2006

The document reminds us not just that Communion is for Catholics only, but for Catholics who: — Went to confession in the past year, at least, or more often if they committed a serious sin.
— Fasted for an hour first “refraining from food and drink (except for water and medicines) for at least one hour prior to receiving Holy Communion.”
— Are wearing “modest and tasteful dress” — “clothes that reflect our reverence for God and that manifest our respect for the dignity of the liturgy and for one another.”
— Are in a recollected and prayerful state of mind. The statement even spells out some common serious sins. These are sins that constitute grave matter. When we do them deliberately and with knowledge of their sinfulness, they put us in a state of mortal sin.
Abortion and euthanasia. “Committing murder, including abortion and euthanasia, harboring deliberate hatred of others.”
— **Any extra-marital sex. **“Engaging in sexual activity outside the bonds of a valid marriage.”
Theft, including “serious fraud, or other immoral business practices.”
Slander, Hatred and Envy. “Speaking maliciously or slandering people in a way that seriously undermines their good name. … Harboring deliberate hatred of others. … Engaging in envy that leads one to wish grave harm to someone else.”
Pornography. “Producing, marketing, or indulging in pornography.”

ncregister.com/site/article/1358

Let he, or she, who is without sin cast the first stone. Let he, or she, who has never fallen into serious sin, continue with his or her attacks on Fr. Cutie.

I don’t see why we needed to know about this except to pray for this unfortunate man who’s now in the clutches of Satan. and, We most certainly didn’t need what most of the posters here did.

Please try to do better.

Your Brother in Christ, Michael
 
I think it’s time for all us to say a prayer for this man, and whatever he might be going through.

Was he wrong to do what he did? Yes, of course. But let’s please pray for him…and let us never forget that we are just as guilty for our sins as he is for them.
 
Heck, if he’s so quick to switch religions to fit his own needs, why doesn’t he become Orthodox then?
Because the Orthodox won’t let him get married either. Orthodox priests aren’t allowed to enter in marriage, but a man who is already married may be Ordained - see the difference.

An Orthodox bishop might accept him as a priest, but would not allow him to marry.
 
How horrible! I hope he is excommunicated for the sake of his own soul!
I think he automatically excommunicated himself by joining another church in open defiance of the Catholic Church. He didn’t even talk to the Bishop about any plans (and as he said, Catholics don’t make a circus out of a converting episcopal priest entering the Catholic Church yet they didn’t extend the same courtesy.)

Anywho, I’ll continue praying form him and hope that if he does decide to go through with a wedding, that he can be faithful to her.

@Roy: you seem to be missing the mark on a lot of subjects about our Church, but it’s understandable. You’re right that we need to love one another, especially among Christians but that doesn’t mean we have to tolerate bad behavior. Love the sinner, not the sin.

Keep in mind Roy that the issue here is not sex or marriage, the real issue is his defiance of the Church, breaking his vows, and most of all is the scandal caused. You’re right that humility is important, but he’s not shown an ounce of it. Rather than simply say he’s sorry and try to find a solution he decides that the Church is wrong, he’s right and so he leaves. A true Catholic priest would never leave the Eucharist, knowing that it truly is the body blood of Christ.

By the way, I recommend you read Humane Vitae or a book by Christopher West (or just check out any of his many articles discussing why sex is anything but a hang up for Catholics here: christopherwest.com/page.asp?ContentID=15 )
 
Let’s see…

Catholic Church founded in 33 AD by Jesus Christ
Anglican Church founded in 1534 AD by Henry VIII
Episcopal Church founded in 1789 AD by Samuel Seabury

History isn’t lying here as these dates are universally accepted as being accurate. Now as I see it… only ONE Church listed above has God as its founder and it ain’t the last two entries. 😉
The Church of England underwent a transformation due to the Reformation, but the Church of England dates back to the late 500s AD, at latest.

But we can agree to disagree.
 
I have some questions:
  1. Once a priest, always a priest, right? So, he will still be a Catholic priest?
  2. What about the sacraments? Would they still be valid (maybe illicit, but valid) in our Church?
  3. What about Mass and consecration? I know that Episcopalians do not believe in transubstantiation, but since He was validly ordained, would his consecration be valid at his new church? Will his congregation have now the real body and blood of Christ because Fr. Cutie was ordained in the Catholic Church?
I would appreciate your comments/answers…
 
The Church of England underwent a transformation due to the Reformation, but the Church of England dates back to the late 500s AD, at latest.

But we can agree to disagree.
Since the Anglicans destroyed the true Catholic Church in England in oppression, subversion and martyrdom, yes we will have to agree to disagree. 😃
 
comcast.net/articles/news-national/20090528/US.Priest.Photos/

MIAMI — A popular Miami priest and media personality known as “Father Oprah” has left the Catholic Church and joined the Episcopal Church after he was photographed cavorting on the beach with his girlfriend.

He was received into Episcopal Church in a ceremony Thursday at Trinity Cathedral and may later announce he will marry his girlfriend, which is allowed in that denomination. He must complete other requirements before serving as an Episcopal priest.
“I thank God for the many people in our community who have shown me their love and support,” Cutie said in a statement Thursday. “Your prayers have truly sustained me at this time of transition in my life. With God’s help, I hope to continue priestly ministry and service in my new spiritual home.”

I wonder if Fr.Cutie had a spiritual director who helped him to make this decision. If he did, God help him/her and have mercy on this confused man.
Agenda meet Mr. Cutie 🤷
 
The Church of England underwent a transformation due to the Reformation, but the Church of England dates back to the late 500s AD, at latest.

But we can agree to disagree.
This is not quite accurate. It was the Catholic Church that was established in England by Augustine of Canterbury. Henry VIII separated and changed the religion of England so that it was no longer the same thing as it was before. And still isn’t. That is why the Catholic Church has its own structure in England, and still does not control the individual parish churches that were confiscated under Henry and successors.
Sorry, back to the original discussion.
 
Sometimes I think we put our priests and clergy on pedestals and believe that they have their spiritual, mental, and emotional lives in complete order. We forget that they are human and are tempted by the same vices that any lay person faces.

I know a priest who struggled with alcoholism. This particular priest inspired me to re-examine my Catholic faith and become more than just a person who is Catholic for one-hour a week on Sunday morning. He gave inspiring homilies and led some outstanding classes to help adults better understand and learn about their faith. When the announcement was made that he was stepping aside as pastor of my church in order to seek treatment, it came as a complete shock to me.

I’m not saying that what Father Cutie has done is right, I’m just saying that wearing a white collar doesn’t give a person super powers that make them invincible against the devil.
 
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 1. I appreciate this opportunity to vent. My family has a variety of faiths represented, and we have some warm discussions. But end up friendly, and I hope this happens here. I confess to some annoyance at those posters who are condescending. Frankly, I don't know all that much about the mysteries of life, and I doubt if anyone does, including any church. We walk by faith. My faith is in God, not in any church or book or theology. Years ago an outstanding preacher, Harry Emerson Fosdick, stated: "I can only believe in a God I cannot understand." Doesn't the Bible tell us that his ways are not our ways, etc.? Yet, there are things in the Bible that I cannot accept. Did Jehovah actually order Saul to kill every living Amalekite? Give me a break. 

  2. Now, as for this defiance of church business.  Yes, Fr. Cutie seems to have done that.  I know that Catholicism teaches that Christ began the Catholic Church and all the rest of us are heretical or perhaps worse. Sorry about that. I find myself in disagreement with my church from time to time and don't lose a wink of sleep over it. The Catholic Church has a great history in certain areas, but it has been wrong so often. For example, when the Crusaders took Jerusalem in 1099 they slaughtered all the residents, regardless of faith. And the Inquisition. For centuries the church permitted no dissent. St. Thomas Aquinas that renowned doctor of the Church, said that heretics should be delivered to the civil authorities to be executed. The Church seems to have modified its claim of authority over society in the modern age, but for generations it resembled the Taliban, forcing the population to adhere to its doctrines and practices. Its law was the law. Even under Franco Spain, not so long ago, Protestants were not permitted to meet publicly, have a seminary, etc. Long story.

   3. As for me, I see different Christian traditions as different rooms in the one house. We should be able to dialogue about our beliefs without the arrogance that goes with the proud claim that our Church alone is the true Church. That was the main basis of anti-Catholicism in past years: Protestant fear that of Catholicism became the dominant Ameeican faith the separation of church and state would wither away. As late as Pius IX in his "Syllabus of Errors" that Pope (up for canonization, I believe) was explicitly condemning religious freedom and democracy. No wonder Protestants reacted defensively. Today American Catholics, with few exceptions, subscribe to the principles of religious freedom established by our founders, almost all of whom were Protestants. Vatican II helped diminish hostility toward Catholicism to the point that there is little of it left in the USA. I hope and pray that Christians will develop an even closer sense of comraderie, though many posters here seem to carry a deep prejudice against Protestantism. 

    4. Now as to the Eucharist, Protestants believe that Christ is present there, as he is everywhere. But the concept of transubstantiation strikes most Protestants as - forgive this, please - superstition. But superstitions are rampant in many other expressions of Christianity, certainly among lots of evangelical Christians. And I am ready to respect them, as much as I cannot possibly agree with them. "Think and let think," is my slogan. "If we believe in the one God and try to be faithful followers of Christ, let's walk together and work together toward justice and peace."

   God bless the whole world - no exceptions. My emphasis is on the Sermon on the Mount in which Jesus ignored theology almost entirely. If we could only abide by that, what a difference this would make in our personal lives and around the globe.
 
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