Fla.'s 'Father Oprah' joins Episcopal Church

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Brings up an interesting question for this Anglican-becoming-Catholic. I’m asking this question to be answered from a strictly Roman view, as I already know how Anglicans view it. Question is this:

Since Fr. Cutie was ordained a Catholic priest, does that mean his eucharist confected at an Anglican mass will be valid (but illicit), or will some sort of deposition take place where the indelible mark on the priest’s soul will be removed?
 
He could still get married, right? He just couldn’t remain a priest?

Heck, if he’s so quick to switch religions to fit his own needs, why doesn’t he become Orthodox then?

I’m guessing they wouldnt have him, since the Orthodox take their faith seriously and wouldn’t accept a “publicity” ordination like this. The Anglican church is a whole other story…

(Now, that I think about it, since former Anglican priests that are married are ordained as Catholic priests sometimes, maybe he’s hoping to come back?)
 
Have not followed this closely, but it seems that the Catholic bishop in Florida more or less confirmed that Alberto Cutié had, by his own actions, pretty much excommunicated himself from the Church. How sad.
On the other hand, the massive, if leaky, umbrella that is the Episcopal church seems to accept anyone, divorced-remarried clergy, Episcopal-Buddhist priests and priestesses, so Alberto and his girlfriend and her child should fit right in.
 
Just as an aside, I remember my first Episcopalian eucharist was a short said mass by a priest who was a Catholic priest during WWII then went on to become an Anglican priest in England and marry his sweetheart after the war, and now he was in the U.S. at the local Episcopalian cathedral. I felt a special presence with him that I never felt in the eucharist with any other Episcopalian priest. As heretical as he was (God rest his soul), there was something present that day that touched me and that presence has played a great role in propelling me home to Rome, as they say… Sorry, just a brief aside, there.
 
Well with a name like Cutie, what girl could resist? 😉

Oh…Accent mark…Well, that changes everything!
 
Heck, if he’s so quick to switch religions to fit his own needs, why doesn’t he become Orthodox then?
He was already friends with the local Episcopal bishop, and they had already discussed him being welcomed with open arms. There’s a video about it if you google it, where the Episcopal bishop talks about their friendship and extension of invitation to Fr. Cutie.
 
Well, obviously…the Episcopal Church is such a free for all these days, a heterosexual priest running his hands down the shorts of his girlfriend in a public place would be, by comparision to some of the things that “church” has bought into, absolutely puritanical.

God help him. Someone needs to tell Fr. Cutie, “Look, it’s either true or it isn’t.”
Yeah, someone needs to tell it to certain folks in the Catholic Church in America and Ireland the same thing about sexual purity, as well…

But you’re right, at least the Church isn’t teaching heresy…
 
I have to admit that I never heard of him until ‘the scandal’ hit. My impression was that he was some orthodox priest. But the more I consider his nickname ‘Father Oprah’, well, what should that have told me.

I still don’t know how one can just jump ship like that. Either you believe it or you don’t. And if you don’t, this shouldn’t be coming out of the blue. How does one go from believing to denying transubstantiation?
Dandelion Wine:

Fr. Cutie didn’t stop believing in the Miracle of Transubstantiation. He fell. Fr. Cutie didn’t stop believing in the Church. He sinned, and as soon as he sinned, he forgot how to find his way home. That’s how the Devil works. The Devil is a Liar and the Father of all Lies. and, He’s a roaring Lion who prowls around looking for whom he may devour.

We forget that at our own peril. Maybe, that’s what Fr. Cutie did. He placed himself in a position where he would be tempted, because he forgot the power of the world, the flesh and the Devil. and, Once tempted, like the rest of us, he fell, because he was trying to resist the temptation on his own instead of with the power of the Spirit of God.

Been there, done that, only God knows how many times… I suggest everyone here do a PROLONGED Examination of conscience before writing another accusing judgmental post. We’ve all done as Fr. Cutie did. It’s just that we’ve all found our way home.

Hopefully, he’ll find his way home. Meanwhile, some very lucky Episcopalians will receive actual valid Sacraments…

“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

Your Brother in Christ, Michael
 
Who else walked out on the Last Supper?..I am not impressed
Don’t forget it has happened on more than one occasion when someone professed to be interested in Jesus, until they ran into a road block that was hard for them to hear and slowly backed away from him.

John 6 -
Matthew 19
Luke 12

Fr. Cutie is basically saying “you mean I can’t get married??”
Fr. Cutie leaving because he would prefer to put something that the world offers before God, is unfortunate.
He is taking the easy way out, where the road is wide…
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Is it possible for a priest to be defrocked and stay a Catholic and get married or something reverting back to being a member of the leity****? *
Anyway, if he was just a t.v. host dude, then this guy couldn’t have been that devoted to God, for he clearly lacked the understanding to hear St. Paul address his specific situation, which immediately relates to his problem.
I*f *he was tempted away, then he must have blinded himself and let his ego get in the way.

I’m thinking it’s more likely that he shouldn’t have been a priest in the first place and he fell through cracks. he should have admitted that mistake, instead of taking the easy way out saying “then Jesus and the Church must be wrong! and I will seek another way, and replace it!”

Not only does he do damage to himself. He undermines the Churches stance on celibate priests to those who do not understand St. Paul’s words and Jesus’s commands of not serving two masters, and asking his apostles to leave their families behind and follow him.

…I already get annoyed with Deacons bringing up their wives during homilies to realize how true St. Paul’s inspired words are-- priests can’t listen to God in his fullness in the sacramental vocation of the priesthood, if they have a family, and a wife to attend to…

This guy shouldn’t have been, and he shouldn’t be in charge of flock when he is unrepentant about his behavior.

All this reminds us, in taking good from this negative example of faith, is to strengthen our own faith, because even this “father”, wasn’t strong enough to keep his eye on the prize when he hit tough times, which is staying loyal to God. Running the race like St. Paul.

It’s pretty scary if you think about how one can be swayed.
Fr. Cutie, unfortunately, has made his choice and that is not going to remedy anything. I am reminded of what then-Cardinal Ratzinger wrote in the 9th station (the meditations for the Stations of the Cross that he composed at the request of Pope John Paul II back in 2005):
What can the third fall of Jesus under the Cross say to us? We have considered the fall of man in general, and the falling of many Christians away from Christ and into a godless secularism. Should we not also think of how much Christ suffers in his own Church? How often is the holy sacrament of his Presence abused, how often must he enter empty and evil hearts! How often do we celebrate only ourselves, without even realizing that he is there! How often is his Word twisted and misused! What little faith is present behind so many theories, so many empty words! How much filth there is in the Church, and even among those who, in the priesthood, ought to belong entirely to him! How much pride, how much self-complacency! What little respect we pay to the Sacrament of Reconciliation, where he waits for us, ready to raise us up whenever we fall! All this is present in his Passion. His betrayal by his disciples, their unworthy reception of his Body and Blood, is certainly the greatest suffering endured by the Redeemer; it pierces his heart. We can only call to him from the depths of our hearts: Kyrie eleison * Lord, save us (cf. Mt 8: 25).
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Thanks for that quote of Pope Benedicts. His words are too true, and stops us from taking the Eucharist for granted.

It’s also humbling, because not just Father Cutie, but it’s likely all of us were guilty of those things Pope Benedict mentions above in receiving the body of Christ. 😦
 
This news saddens me. In the wake of the story, I felt that Father Cutie handled himself and the press pretty well and I believed that he would make a good decision - either to leave the priesthood for the love he felt for this woman or continue with his commitment to the Catholic Church as a priest. I remember him saying that this woman was one of great faith. I know I cannot judge these two people, that is God’s job, but it almost seems to me that these two must not have had as strong a commitment to their faith as they seemed to. Like he wanted to have his cake and eat it too - staying a priest but also being married. I will pray for both of them.
 
…Hopefully, he’ll find his way home. Meanwhile, some very lucky Episcopalians will receive actual valid Sacraments…
Of course, this is a can of worms too. Are they lucky if they start receiving the Eucharist without ever having received valid confirmation or reconciliation? Scripture says some rather scary things about receiving Communion unworthily… Sickness and death resulted, IIRC! Not that this literally happens much anymore (or we’d have a lot of corpses piled up after mass at catholic churches!), but the principle is clear: Get right with God BEFORE coming to the table, not BY coming to the table.

No, I’m not sure this is a bright side either. 😦
 
He’s blinded by his greed.

Greed for a woman and greed for the priesthood.

Can’t have both in the Catholic Church so he jumped ship to get what he wants.

Well good ridden!

The Church has purified itself of 1 less bad apple.
 
I’m truly sorry for this action, there was no need to change to the episcopal church, this tells me he wasn’t looking just to “marry” but that he wants to be in the spotlight. He could have remained catholic and just drop the ministry just like many others.

Here is his statement: padrealberto.net/

here is the statement of the archdiocese of Miami: miamiarchdiocese.org/ip.asp?op=H1000090528ACE

What bothers me is the lack of understanding of what the Church is and what is his authority. The episcopalian bishop is now getting all the TV time to spread out his misunderstanding about what “catholic” really means. He even claimed that his church is “catholic” and that it existed before the XI century.

Lord give us priests
Lord give us many priests
Lord give us many holy priests.
 
I’m truly sorry for this action, there was no need to change to the episcopal church, this tells me he wasn’t looking just to “marry” but that he wants to be in the spotlight. He could have remained catholic and just drop the ministry just like many others.

Here is his statement: padrealberto.net/
Yeah yeah, whatever…just go…

Seeks his desires rather than truth…

Is there anything left to say? 🤷
 
What showers of grace has the priest continually received from God ! And, after all, he brings forth briers and thorns instead of fruit . . . our Lord complained to St. Bridget: “Such priests are not my priests, but they are real traitors.” Yes, real traitors, who avail themselves of the celebration of Mass to outrage Jesus Christ by sacrilege. But what shall be the unhappy end of such priests? Behold it: in the land of the saints he hath done wicked things, and he shall not see the glory of the Lord. The end shall be, first, abandonment of God, and then the fire of hell.

St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori, Bishop & Doctor of the Church
 
Brings up an interesting question for this Anglican-becoming-Catholic. I’m asking this question to be answered from a strictly Roman view, as I already know how Anglicans view it. Question is this:

Since Fr. Cutie was ordained a Catholic priest, does that mean his eucharist confected at an Anglican mass will be valid (but illicit), or will some sort of deposition take place where the indelible mark on the priest’s soul will be removed?
Son of Monica

As the Original Son of St. Monica, St. Augustine of Hippo wrote 1,600 years ago, “Once a priest, always a priest.” The mark is INDELIBLE. There is no act of man nor God’s that can remove it once it is applied (That includes Papal Dispensations). That is the Constant Teaching of the Catholic Church from the time of the Apostles.

I personally know an adulterous priest who joined a cult and left his post whom I still call Father in my emails and other communications.

Fr. Alberto left his post and committed adultery, but he’s still a priest. and, According to the Law of the Church, he is required to perform the Sacraments of the Church (Hear Confessions, Anoint the Dying, Confect the Eucharist) in emergencies when NO other priests are available…

Your Brother in Christ, Michael
 
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