Florida Legislature and Pornography

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exnihilo said:
If you don’t think wishing a person was childless is cruel then I think I understand why you don’t think pornography is immoral.
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:roll_eyes: LOL

I never said porn isn’t immoral, but thanks for (not) reading.
 
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You are fortunate. The problem with pornography is that it acts like a drug in the body. I know, I’ve been there. I’m still tempted. I think the sad thing is the porn industry counts on addiction occurring. For everyone else reading this, pray to God for strength and guidance. He will walk with you and guide you. Temptations will still occur. Stay in prayer.

God bless,
Ed
 
How about…

I wish you were a parent so that you could understand. Because right now, you can’t understand. I forgive you for that.
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
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exnihilo:
So you obviously can’t support your claim and want to appeal to emotion.
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If I watch one porn vid with consenting adults and then never do it again, then nothing’s really changed and nobody’s life is significantly affected by me having viewed that one video one time. If I shoot a person in the head just once, that is a life irrevocably lost, and and of the people who loved will be forever affected by their loss. How in God’s name can you even begin to claim they’re equivalent?
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Except for that, in that act, you have turned those people into object. You have dehumanized them. Not to mention the damage it did to the actual people. (You should really read the testimonies of men and women who have escaped the pornography industry. it will likely change your view on the subject significantly.)

Not to mention the fact that even once is more then enough to damn your soul…
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
So does the porn user! The murderer damned himself IN ADDITION TO horrifically violating the free will of another.
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Yes, the porn user does damn himself. But the people who produce and distribute porn are contributing to that by making it available, which is why it should be illegal.
TheAmazingGrace said:
I would argue they’re far more of a public health concern.
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Because you don’t think porn is a serious problem.
CD45 said:
It would be interesting to hear what people consider as “porn”. Some here might even consider the lack of clothing on “Dancing With the Stars” pornographic or TV shows that feature gay characters and lifestyles as pornography. What do we ban that hasn’t already been banned? (like child pornography).
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It isn’t hard to know what porn is. From the catechism:
Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties.
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The other things you mention are lewdness and depreciations of immorality. If porn was so hard to define you wouldn’t have websites that advertises having porn. All porn should be banned.
 
Ted Bundy admitted his serial killing habit started with porn.
 
Parent here. I would have to say the high probability of being corrupted by porn worries me more than the minuscule (in my community) probability of being affected by gun violence.

Of course I’m saying that from the comfort of my home, in the gentle glow of my computer screen.
 
anon64350612 said:
Ted Bundy admitted his serial killing habit started with porn.
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Most researchers agree that it was a manipulative attempt to shift blame for his crimes. Kinda like blaming video games for Columbine.
 
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ChunkMonk said:
Which means this thread has to be derailed. Because a girl who doesn’t even live in the US said something dumb.
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  1. That was rude.
  2. I am from the US.
  3. Do you think porn is worse than murder?
 
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and @theamazinggrace I am sure you are not defending or minimizing the dangers of the use of pornography. I think our time would be better spent looking at what the Catechism of the Catholic Church has to say.
Paragraph 1863: Venial sin weakens charity; it manifests a disordered affection for created goods; it impedes the soul’s progress in the exercise of the virtues and the practice of the moral good; it merits temporal punishment. Deliberate and unrepented venial sin disposes us little by little to commit mortal sin. However venial sin does not break the covenant with God. With God’s grace it is humanly reparable. “Venial sin does not deprive the sinner of sanctifying grace, friendship with God, charity, and consequently eternal happiness.” John Paul II, RP 17 § 9.

While he is in the flesh, man cannot help but have at least some light sins. But do not despise these sins which we call “light”: if you take them for light when you weigh them, tremble when you count them. A number of light objects makes a great mass; a number of drops fills a river; a number of grains makes a heap. What then is our hope? Above all, confession.St. Augustine, In ep. Jo. 1,6:PL 35,1982.

(And I realize that porn use could potentially be a mortal sin in itself depending on the circumstances.) Let’s try to take this seriously enough to encourage people to avoid porn. On that I think we can agree.
 
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and @theamazinggrace I am sure you are not defending or minimizing the dangers of the use of pornography.
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I’m not. I’m just saying that the damage it inflicts on most individuals is nowhere near the level of damage that murder inflicts. People here are arguing that porn is worse than murder, and quite frankly I’m wondering if I woke up in an alternate dimension.
 
I am picking up what you are laying down is a 1970s way to say “I understand.”
 
A poster in a gun control thread posted something to the effect of
No body count is high enough to justify taking away my ‘gun rights’
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Sadly I think that is a common attitude. I don’t object to the porn laws but you are right that the time would be better spent looking into ways to make schools safer.
 
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