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They can’t exactly protest outside of the football field if they’re playing. And I daresay if people just protested outside of the field, they’d be ignored until they got into someone’s way - at which point they’d be being disruptive.
 
Football players weren’t required to even be out of the locker room for the anthem until 2009. This isn’t some kind of disruption of a long standing tradition.

Teamowners were paid to look patriotic and now players are being given flack for not being patriotic… the irony is almost painful.
 
Trump will succeed in this because america is a great county. And it was founded on biblical principle’s.

And citizens are fed up with the liberal you are rasis crap.
 
jcrichton said:
Wow… is this the twilight zone?

Do you actually believe your statement?
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I didn’t say that they were showing Catholic reverence, only that kneeling is not inherently disrespectful. This protest is very mild and restrained. It is the response to the protest that has been off the rails, although “off the rails” is SOP for the President. But rather than continue with rhetoric, show me anywhere a player said their intent was to be irreverent by kneeling. I know it is a protest, but I do not remember any intention to offend or be irreverent. But then unlike a nationalist, I do not “revere” or worship the flag.
 
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dann said:
And citizens are fed up with the liberal you are rasis crap.
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This sentence make little sense, with the grammar and spelling issues.

That combined with the incoherent anger, started me thinking to myself, “Is this user Trump in disguise?” 🤨
And it was founded on biblical principle’s.
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Like Deism, slavery, and genocide? This is kind of the point. Yes, for white, male, land owners, our country had a lot of Christian issues. However, to be truly Christian, we must value others more than ourselves, as Christ commands. This cannot happen if we still institutionalize racism. Don’t get me wrong. I do not see this as a big problem, especially considering where we come from. But it is blind optimism to write off the remaining issues as “liberal crap.” Rather, it is precisely a Christian issue and faith demands we strive always for greater social justice.
 
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pnewton said:
But it is blind optimism to write off the remaining issues as “liberal crap.” Rather, it is precisely a Christian issue and faith demands we strive always for greater social justice.
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I would say also - even if we don’t agree they are issues, we can recognize that some people see these things as legitimate issues. There’s no need to impute malice in such a case - someone can genuinely see the important issues as different from the ones you see as important, without being malicious.
 
Hi!

So taking a knee while the national anthem is sang is your understanding of being respectful?

Maran atha!

Angel
 
Comparison and what to do…

Not every person that enjoys fame and fortune abuse their privileges; but it is actually the root of many abuses, both in the private and public sectors.

So my comparison is that instead of being so self-centered and using their talents for destructive and self-destructive purposes (Tiger Woods, remember him) why not use it to advance the “justice” they are claiming to seek?

How much does it cost them to dunk a knee?

What does that inspire, justice or disrespect?

Monkey see-do is misleading as man tends to mimic the unvirtuous examples rather than the most virtuous.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
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Yet, why do they only protest when the national anthem is being sang, why don’t they use a stronger venue (say walk out of the game)?

Maran atha!

Angel
 
I didn’t intend to mean “outside the stadium” as in the physical structure. I mean some other venue for peaceful protesting such as attending a peaceful protest when needed or writing an editorial for a newspaper or some other action outside of football/and its stadium.

The National Anthem during a football game is not in my opinion, the place to protest as many lives were lost and people fought valiantly to even give them that right. The public has the right to their opinion and to “boo” if needed when someone “takes a knee” to protest RACISM which doesn’t exist it SEEMS in football.
 
jcrichton said:
Hi!

So taking a knee while the national anthem is sang is your understanding of being respectful?
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Of course that is not what I said. Taking a knee is not by necessity disrespectful. Making more of this than there is has contributed to its spread.
 
MaryT777 said:
The National Anthem during a football game is not in my opinion, the place to protest as many lives were lost and people fought valiantly to even give them that right.
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Hi, Mary!

This is exactly what these “bleeding-heart liberals” (sorry, I couldn’t help but throw that in–more for drama and levity than anything else) fail to accept. Yes, North Americans can proudly claim that they have “rights;” yet, these “rights” come at a price–being unpatriotic and teaching children to become unpatriotic is insane as they claim the “right” to exercise the “freedom” that others died, gave their body parts and mental health to accomplish or maintain.

Sadly, the spirit of protestation has evolved to the point of irrationality: ‘I protest because I have the right to protest!’

Maran atha!

Angel
 
Please, you are either hungry or not; a woman cannot be just a little pregnant… you can not drop a knee because you are ambivalent about how to behave when the national anthem is being sang… well, unless you were brought up in N. Korea–where you can be executed if there’s a fly in the soup or if some yells, ‘bingo!’ …and those were the hidden cues of the day.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
Yes, I fail to accept that because someone feels something is disrespectful it is reason enough that it shouldn’t be done.

That is not freedom.
 
No, you still miss the point!

They have the freedom to do whatever (since none has been shoot on sight or taken to the back of the stadium or shoot while riding in a vehicle…); the point is that just because we have a strong freedom of rights does not mean that we should exercise those “rights” unpatriotically.

Why don’t they walk out on the games? That would prove to be more dramatic and would show that they are willing to put their money where their “pretense” is.

Why don’t they get involved with the movement or create one if there’s none. How easy would it be for their fame and fortune to carry these movements from obscurity to the lime-lights?

Can you imagine your children’s sports heroes championing a move to halt violence in America? Would you not take your children/grandchildren to seminars, town councils, and marches where their sports heroes are championing such just cause?

Yet, these actions may cut into their “free” time and/or profit margins.

Dropping a knew costs them… oh, wait, there’s not even a fine!

Maran atha!

Angel
 
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I completely agree with you. They should walk out of the whole game and that would make a true statement that they are willing to put their salary on the line for the pursuit of a country that does something more about racism.

Amen Angel!~
 
Regarding the Jaguars who played in London,
The NFL’s divisive demonstrations are an insult to all prior generations.
Citizens, who have sacrificed for this countries liberties and morality, do not need to be subjected to the displays of vanity
and disrespect like that shown in London in front of an international gathering.
They insult the public and somehow delude themselves into making it some sort of team unity gimmick.
The drama queens that play for the Jaguars lack humility and have a lot of gall subjecting the public that paid for a sporting event to witness their deplorable behavior.
The Jaguar organization and its owner need a total attitude adjustment. Their team’s feigned excuse of exercising free speech is just that. The issue is not about free speech. Do you visit your parents at Christmas and turn your back to them?
I cannot pray the rosary where I work without causing a disturbance among the co-workers. The HR Department would not tolerate it. And lastly, there are far greater problems in society than the issue they claim to be protesting.
Abortion, murder rates in general, passing unmanageable debt to the next generation, pornography, broken families,
Drug addiction, rising suicide rates, extreme ideologies, secular relativism and crony capitalism. Can the general public step on to the field and start advocating for the issues that concern them?
Only in their vanity do they believe that they are great social advocates for some unbearable social issue.
 
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