Football kneeling effect you

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vze2fgjj said:
Abortion, murder rates in general, passing unmanageable debt to the next generation, pornography, broken families,

Drug addiction, rising suicide rates, extreme ideologies, secular relativism and crony capitalism. Can the general public step on to the field and start advocating for the issues that concern them?

Only in their vanity do they believe that they are great social advocates for some unbearable social issue.
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The problem is that society says that abortion is lawful so lets do it! …pornography is just good health (like abortion) so do it more and as raunchy as possible! …drugs and anything that caters to the ego, great and better than great, do it till you’re satisfied!

The values have been put on their heads: bad is seen as good and good as bad; disrespect and irresponsibility is the new ethics, so DO IT!

Commonsense went out with the dinosaurs and reason does not apply.

As those same “activists” to get involved and put their fame and money where it counts and they will promptly excuse themselves as having a tight schedule to keep, with all the parties, and sponsoring events–and their wallets are on the other pants, so they can’t really contribute financially, sorry.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
There’s an easy fix…cut out playing the National Anthem at all sporting events…it’s not as if they represent patriotic ceremonies…that way those who want to protest will have to put their money where their sympathies lie and not play to show their protestations…we’ll soon find out if they are genuine or just getting on the popular racial bandwagon because they are a certain color
 
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I don’t know when it was first introduced (national anthem played during sports events and other public events–if there are other examples), but do you think that the majority of Americans who spend moneys on the games would love to see the national anthem removed to accommodate a few jackasses (players and their leagues)?

Maran atha!

Angel
 
pnewton said:
Sometime I root against the team that is the most obnoxious, but it usually makes little difference. All the press and hoopla have aggravated what should have been a passing fad.
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The only reason this is a huge issue is because American celebs in the sports world could just not resist responding to a Donald J. Trump tweet.

The NFL really stepped in it and wasn’t helped by comments by the likes of Step Curry and LeBron James, to say nothing of the anti-Trump media accolades.
 
jcrichton said:
I don’t know when it was first introduced (national anthem played during sports events and other public events–if there are other examples), but do you think that the majority of Americans who spend moneys on the games would love to see the national anthem removed to accommodate a few jackasses (players and their leagues)?
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NO. This is a losing issue for those who kneel during the anthem. Ben Shapiro notes that Trump drummed this all up because he knew he could win on the issue and is trying to distract from a dysfunctional legislative body in Congress.

I don’t know that it goes that far, but the fact is global celebs and elites just cannot resist responding to the guy no matter what the issue is.
 
SuperLuigi said:
The only reason this is a huge issue is because American celebs in the sports world could just not resist responding to a Donald J. Trump tweet.
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Who can resist? He is so opinionated and “baity.” He is a big presidential gift to comedians, pundits and people who just like to get mad. I don’t know what you think of his leadership in a divided country, be he is the master of Tweet-baiting others.
 
Wait, so celebs are following the semi educated and cultured Trump?

Maran atha!

Angel
 
I’m all for sticking to the man (well, the idiot-man that is bringing down the Presidential Office through off-the hip reasoning and almost sound-bites); but I would never dump on the flag or the nation or those who have given their blood, lives, sweat, tears, joy, happiness, and yes, life itself for the nation… just to try to give the chump a black eye.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
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But isn’t that like the town’s-fool being celebrated as the wisest man in town?

Maran atha!

Angel
 
DarkLight said:
Here’s my question: if someone wishes to protest such things, if they believe black people are not being given equal protection under the law and wish to protest - how could they go about it in a way that would be considered respectful? If so, do you think anyone would pay attention?
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The NFL ratings have been going down and it’s definately because of this. So if they want attention, they aren’t getting it as much.

The problem with this kind of stuff is the manner in which some of them respond. And this really all started allegedly because of Colin Kaepernick’s Muslim girlfriend and was revived recently by Donald Trump and the easily-baited North American celeb culture just couldn’t resist.

So any notion of this being on solid principle is out the window as far as optics are concerned.
 
jcrichton said:
I’m all for sticking to the man (well, the idiot-man that is bringing down the Presidential Office through off-the hip reasoning and almost sound-bites); but I would never dump on the flag or the nation or those who have given their blood, lives, sweat, tears, joy, happiness, and yes, life itself for the nation… just to try to give the chump a black eye.
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It’s anyone’s guess as to how mad about this Trump really is or if he even cares at all what the players. I don’t think personally the president is that big on cultural/social issues. All that’s happening now is a childish, unprofessional response by some professional athletes and a tweet here and there by Trump. Is For a guy that you say is the “village idiot” and uneducated, he’s doing pretty well as he has the global elite following his carrot stick.
 
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No, as long as it’s done for the right reason (ie: giving honor and glory to God).
 
Don’t get me wrong; culture and cultured are not the same thing. A person could very well become the best brain surgeon in the world yet still be as stupid and as calloused as that character in the skid where the guy keeps getting an electrical jolt for picking the wrong button while the chicken next to him keeps getting fed and not electrocuted.

…as for the village idiot, if he/she is praised as the wisest man, what does that make of the rest of the villagers?

Maran atha!

Angel
 
It’s comments like this that will be wind at the back of Trump/Pence 2020.
 
And he’ll get some of it, too, because the Democrats are going to have to find someone to run against him.
 
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