For police, the goal is vigilance, not vigilantes

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Robert_Sock said:
We’ve been trough this time and time again
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The only thing we have been through time and time again is your continued assault on GZ while attempting to portray TM as an angel. He was a thug wanna be. See how the victimization remains intact yet? Now, would you like to take another trip around the track.

Police Vigilance in the TM case? Your perspective please.

We already know stand you ground is confirmed. 👍
 
GaryTaylor said:
And it never happened in the TM/GZ case. Nor is it anything thing you want to discuss.

You want to discuss what and angel TM is and what a villain GZ is. But only in your mind.
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I don’t recall a post on this thread saying TM was an angel.
 
GaryTaylor said:
Of course it is.

Sure I know how it goes

TM was a wanna be gangster depending on whom he was around
Photo with semi-auto
Smoked Pot. blah, blah, blah,

You see its like I said the victimization remains intact. And here we are but again,👍
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He was young and made mistakes; that doesn’t mean he deserved to be killed.
 
MaryT777 said:
He was young and made mistakes; that doesn’t mean he deserved to be killed.
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He was a thug wanna be. Circle can’t be broken like that. He chose Thug Life. 🤷

And you affirm “Stand Your Ground” for TM but refuse to accept it for anyone else. 🤷
 
What about the Police Vigilance in Stanton Fla which led to the Stand Your Ground of these two men without good vigilance anywhere to be found?

Ignore that of course. :rolleyes:
 
GaryTaylor said:
He was a thug wanna be. Circle can’t be broken like that. He chose Thug Life. 🤷

And you affirm “Stand Your Ground” for TM but refuse to accept it for anyone else. 🤷
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Gary:
Which was he? A thug or a thug wanna be?

I affirm SYG for everyone in any state that allows that as a defense. That said as we know the trial was not about SYG in the TM/GZ case.

GZ met someone who was not intimidated by his gun and chose to fight for his life physically.
 
justtryin said:
Treyvon’s perspective. Could it be: Oh ****! I wish I hadn’t thrown that last punch!
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Actually do you know what phrase GZ said TM uttered twice before he fell down dead?

It wasn’t Oh expletive, I wish I hadn’t thrown that last punch.
 
GaryTaylor said:
What about the Police Vigilance in Stanton Fla which led to the Stand Your Ground of these two men without good vigilance anywhere to be found?

Ignore that of course. :rolleyes:
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What about it? How does it apply to the GZ/TM case? I am not an expert on SYG laws,
are you?

Do you believe that GZ showed good vigilance in his dealings with TM?
I don’t.

:onpatrol::onpatrol:
 
MaryT777 said:
Actually do you know what phrase GZ said TM uttered twice before he fell down dead?

It wasn’t Oh expletive, I wish I hadn’t thrown that last punch.
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I’m pretty sure he was talking about a thought process, not actual last words.
 
MaryT777 said:
Gary:
Which was he? A thug or a thug wanna be?

I affirm SYG for everyone in any state that allows that as a defense. That said as we know the trial was not about SYG in the TM/GZ case.

GZ met someone who was not intimidated by his gun and chose to fight for his life physically.
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Statement contrary to facts.
 
Gricken said:
I’m pretty sure he was talking about a thought process, not actual last words.
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No GZ shared the last actual words with the police before he dropped over dead.
Do you know what they were?
Mary.
 
Gricken said:
That’s not important to the point others were making a moment ago
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This is a moment where we don’t need perspective talking because we know what TM 's last words and thus thoughts were. GZ was kind enough to share that with the police.
Do you know what they were?

Mary.
 
MaryT777 said:
This is a moment where we don’t need perspective talking because we know what TM 's last words and thus thoughts were. GZ was kind enough to share what with the police.
Do you know what they were?

Mary.
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I’m not being dragged into this talk about Zimmerman and Martin sorry, I think it’s pointless to begin with. I was merely clarifying another posters statement.
 
MaryT777 said:
Statement in line with facts.
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Really? I have already provided the audio where it states that TM did not reach for the gun until he was on top of Z. So the attack was not about the gun. It is more than full hardy to attack someone with a gun. What he said when he was shot is reported by someone who you say is a liar so why would you trust it?
 
Gricken said:
I’m not being dragged into this talk about Zimmerman and Martin sorry, I think it’s pointless to begin with. I was merely clarifying another posters statement.
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It is in deed pointless. What he said has no bearing on the fact that he attacked Z not realizing that Z wasn’t as defenseless as TM thought he was.
 
adrift said:
Really? I have already provided the audio where is states that TM did not reach for the gun until he was on top of Z. So the attack was not about the gun. It is more than full hardy to attack someone with a gun. What he said when he was shot is reported by someone who you say is a liar so why would you trust it?
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The Audio is GZ’s words and I do not believe the words of GZ. He lied in the bond hearing,
about his knowledge of self defense laws, etc. He’s not credible.

I don’t know what it’s more than full hardy to attack someone with a gun means to comment on it.

I see no reason for GZ to lie about TM’s last words. He had motive to lie about anything else and he had the knowledge as well albeit he lied about it to save himself from a murder charge.

Mary.
 
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