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Axsenex
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I watched EWTN Live with Hitchcock as their guest. I got to say it was not very good show. You may check it out on their EWTN app.
Former US Nuncio joins statement calling Pope’s reading of Amoris Laetitia
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DustThouArt
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This is not the first Crisis, nor will it be the last. Jesus promised the Church will survive, regardless of the attempts of satan. But as we can clearly see throughout our history some rise to levels of authority that do not have the best interests of the Church at heart. All we can really do at the Lay level is to maintain our lives within the Sacraments, and try to assist those around us to do the same. And maybe be a voice of tradition to our Priests and Bishops. I defer to Venerable Archbishop Sheen:
“Who is going to save our Church? Not our Bishops, not our priests and religious. It is up to the people. You have the minds, the eyes, the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that your priests act like priests, your bishops like bishops and your religious act like religious”
“Who is going to save our Church? Not our Bishops, not our priests and religious. It is up to the people. You have the minds, the eyes, the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that your priests act like priests, your bishops like bishops and your religious act like religious”
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Jig_Saw
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And you are welcome to your opinion. I disagree with it.
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petra22
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Just so you know there are more opinions out there…
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DustThouArt
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I find it somewhat telling that the same tactics of hyperbole and Ad Hominum attacks used by the usual suspects of the leftist/Marxist agenda are used to disparage Faithful Catholics who are merely wishing to hold on to the fullness of the Faith.
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Rau
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It is good to be wary of news articles from sources that have let you down in the past. Of course, facts can be checked, and if confirmed, accepted.
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Mark121359
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So, who do you turn to then, the National Schismatic Reporter…umm, National catholic Reporter?
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_Abyssinia
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Three Bishops Issue Profession of Truth About Sacramental Marriage
The Kazakh Ordinaries took the decision in response to Pope Francis’ official interpretation of ‘Amoris Laetitia’ which they say is leading to ‘rampant confusion’ and is ‘alien’ to the entire faith.
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Justin_Swanton
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What’s interesting about this and similar threads is that when bishops, archbishops and cardinals are quoted as affirming that AL isn’t going to fly, the discussion is immediately shifts to the news outlets that quote them.
Forget about Lifesite, etc. What matters is that prelates, some of them high-ranking, all of them in perfectly good standing with the Holy See, are telling the Catholic world that Amoris Laetitia’s treatment of remarried divorcees receiving Communion - the text of which was clarified by the Argentinian bishops and officially confirmed by the Pope - is in direct and irreconcilable contradiction with the definitive teaching of the Church.
That’s all that matters.
Forget about Lifesite, etc. What matters is that prelates, some of them high-ranking, all of them in perfectly good standing with the Holy See, are telling the Catholic world that Amoris Laetitia’s treatment of remarried divorcees receiving Communion - the text of which was clarified by the Argentinian bishops and officially confirmed by the Pope - is in direct and irreconcilable contradiction with the definitive teaching of the Church.
That’s all that matters.
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What is also noteworthy is that statements like the one these 8 bishops have signed are remarkably clear, lucid, precise, and straightforward. And in line with definitive and perennial Church teaching. They don’t tell you that 1+1 = 2 except when those “gray areas” let you think it = 3.
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Imdaman
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What do you mean by “Thinking they are Catholic”?KMG:
It’s a pope bashing website and those that click on the link thinking they are Catholic deserve to know that.
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Imdaman
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Who has said that random Bishops can not be wrong?
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Imdaman
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Oh I ssee, so what do you suggest would be a good site or news channel that would give us an authentic Catholic or unbiased point of view. Please pray tell… where?
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Imdaman
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Yes it is interesting that the likes of Jigsaw and a few others on here come with their prejudices and biased erroneous points of view informing us what true Catholicism is or ought to be.
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Imdaman
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Absolutely on queue, thank you! The fact that so many Bishops are coming out like this shows us that the document is flawed. Cahpter 8 is the basic culprit and the fact that there are so many different opinions about it proves the case for confusion.
I predict in the years to come that AL will be scrapped and a more faithful documant will take it’s place!
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Jig_Saw
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You can review the different sites and decide for yourself. For myself, I find Steve J over at Lifesitenews to have confused his politics with his religion given his unmitigated support of Roy Moore and his willingness to ban posters that disagree with him. The environment fosters pope bashing and I won’t be a part of it or take anything from the site seriously.
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Imdaman
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I don’t really care what you think of lifesite news or any other news organization. Much of what you post here I don’t really take seriously because of your attitude towards anyone who disagrees with, imho, your questionable allegiances and ideas of truth.
The whole thread of this thread is about the nuncios statement an that of other Bishops. If you dont like the LSN article choose one of the other articles.
If you don’t have a opinion move on but don’t make this thread about your prejudices go make a different thread for that.
Peace!
The whole thread of this thread is about the nuncios statement an that of other Bishops. If you dont like the LSN article choose one of the other articles.
If you don’t have a opinion move on but don’t make this thread about your prejudices go make a different thread for that.
Peace!
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Jig_Saw
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Truth is truth; it’s simple. The problem with people is that they lie to themselves and lie to others and claim it is the truth. And, if you don’t take me seriously, I’m ok with that, but then why did you respond?
The thread was based on a lifesitenews article, so it’s appropriate to talk about the bias of the source of the actual article that the thread is based on.
I didn’t make this thread about it. I put out my opinion that the source is garbage. You questioned it by two posts and I answered you. There is plenty of room for different views on this, so you can stop with the fallacy that I’m making the thread about my prejudices against an obviously biased source.
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NickyMaz
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The debate over sources notwithstanding it is clear there is confusion over Amoris Laetitia. Expressing concern over this isn’t ‘pope bashing’, rather it’s only reasonable to express concern and ask for a refined guidance from the Pope.
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