Fr. Corapi Responds to Some of His Order's Charges

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What ‘evidence’ do we know for fact ?

I agree ex-priest JC’s most recent video explanation is lame-o, but I do see valid points in his audio explanation for why he resigned w/o legal defense [that the Church investigation could well be unfair to him … and drag on forever].

This ‘Black Sheepdog’ moniker is ridiculous … and seems quite infantile of him. Almost as if he invisions himself as the new-age internet star to the secular world, functioning apart from the Church.

But, what bothers me the most is the apparent lack of facts on this controversy. I would like to see ‘evidence’ to convict or exculpate him. But, its probably a ‘she said – he said’ matter at best, w/o hard evidence that we could make judgments about.
What ‘evidence’ do we know for fact?

It is up to the appointed investigators to establish the facts.

Corapi has effectively rendered the process stalled taht could convict or exculpiate him. He did this by filing the lawsuit, and by resigning.
 
What ‘evidence’ do we know for fact ?
I agree ex-priest JC’s most recent video explanation is lame-o, but I do see valid points in his audio explanation for why he resigned w/o legal defense [that the Church investigation could well be unfair to him … and drag on forever].

This ‘Black Sheepdog’ moniker is ridiculous … and seems quite infantile of him. Almost as if he invisions himself as the new-age internet star to the secular world, functioning apart from the Church.

But, what bothers me the most is the apparent lack of facts on this controversy. I would like to see ‘evidence’ to convict or exculpate him. But, its probably a ‘she said – he said’ matter at best, w/o hard evidence that we could make judgments about.
Is this good enough? ncregister.com/daily-news/father-john-corapi-resigns-from-solt/#ixzz1RFVzmVx9
 
Please read the SOLT statement of July 5th.
Allegations only …

have you/I seen or will we ever be allowed to examine the evidence by SOLT ?:nope:

One thing is for sure, the former Protestant Pastor, turned Catholic Theologian Scott Hahn … will never put the Church thru such a sordid mess.

Corapi grew up as Catholic, fell away, returned again, and now appears to have become a Cafeteria Catholic who wants to operate outside the Church :rolleyes:
 
So you knew him personally enough to call him a “weird dude”?

A lot of people consider christians to be weird.
No he was your regular next-door neighbour that you have over for a bbq on Saturday:rolleyes:

I don’t know what you’re trying to do or say, but perhaps you didn’t choose the best platform to express your peculiar views.
 
How very sad, this all is with Fr. Corapi. In such tumoultuos times when people are in such need of positive Spiriutal happenings, such horrendous situation happens.
Personally I feel a certain sadness but at the end what is important is that we pray together for all who are hurting because of this situation…and for Fr. Corapi too…
Love God above all and the Love our Catholic Faith and Church.

I am praying for Healing for all those who came back to the Church thru Fr. Corapi Ministry, and I pray that those people know that is God who is at the Center of our
Our Universe and not man. I pray also for all those Priest who are doing such
great work and for Unity in all Christian… God Bless. Sorry for such simplicity
but I am but I am a simple Christian Women who prays a lot and try to not to be too
judgemental and help those who lose faith when things go astray and most importantly
I strive one day at a time to do Gods will…
 
What ‘evidence’ do we know for fact ?

I agree ex-priest JC’s most recent video explanation is lame-o, but I do see valid points in his audio explanation for why he resigned w/o legal defense [that the Church investigation could well be unfair to him … and drag on forever].

This ‘Black Sheepdog’ moniker is ridiculous … and seems quite infantile of him. Almost as if he invisions himself as the new-age internet star to the secular world, functioning apart from the Church.

But, what bothers me the most is the apparent lack of facts on this controversy. I would like to see ‘evidence’ to convict or exculpate him. But, its probably a ‘she said – he said’ matter at best, w/o hard evidence that we could make judgments about.
There certainly IS hard evidence, or SOLT would NEVER, EVER have released the statement that they did on July 5th. They must have felt completely backed into a corner to do such a thing, but Corapi has done everything from his side to subvert the normal process by filing a civil lawsuit, by having employees sign non-disclosure agreements, and by resigning before the canon process could be completed. SOLT has ordered him to drop the lawsuit and I think he may well do that - he says HE is “drawing a line in the sand,” (as though it is up to him! What arrogance!) and will not answer any more questions. So, I’m thinking he wouldn’t say those things if he intended to continue with the lawsuit, but I could be wrong.

At any rate, there would seem to be a lot of evidence from different sources, not just the accusation that got the whole ball rolling. And it is confirmed evidence. We just will probably never see it, and honestly, I am grateful for that. Who knows what kind of scandal the reality might create?

Just from reading the comments on several websites related to him, most people are quite alarmed for him and his state of mind, and mostly people are praying for him to repent and go back to his order. They tell him they are worried about him, remind him of how adamant he has been in years past about obedience, and wonder what happened to him to cause him to give up what had been his calling. Oh, sure, there are a few really angry and somewhat profane posts, but that is the extreme, somewhat matched by the rabid supporters of The Black Sheepdog on that FB page.

I think I am going to pray all the more for him. And for all priests, the ones who are being tempted but are quietly resisting with everything they have in them, and relying on the Holy Spirit instead of Harley Davidson.
 
How very sad, this all is with Fr. Corapi. In such tumoultuos times when people are in such need of positive Spiriutal happenings, such horrendous situation happens.
Personally I feel a certain sadness but at the end what is important is that we pray together for all who are hurting because of this situation…and for Fr. Corapi too…
Love God above all and the Love our Catholic Faith and Church.

I am praying for Healing for all those who came back to the Church thru Fr. Corapi Ministry, and I pray that those people know that is God who is at the Center of our
Our Universe and not man. I pray also for all those Priest who are doing such
great work and for Unity in all Christian… God Bless. Sorry for such simplicity
but I am but I am a simple Christian Women who prays a lot and try to not to be too
judgemental and help those who lose faith when things go astray and most importantly
I strive one day at a time to do Gods will…
No need to apologize. This is beautiful and edifying.
 
The one thing I DO know is that he is so very arrogant and has pride. He is going off the deep end.
Solomon spoke the truth in scripture saying “Pride goeth before a fall”. We are all potential marks for the deadly sins of arrogance/pride. None of us are lily pure and w/o that sin … except for Mary !!!

The proud will always be brought down low by God …
 
Allegations only …

have you/I seen or will we ever be allowed to examine the evidence by SOLT ?:nope:
No, they are not just allegations. SOLT has hard evidence to back up their assertions. Please, let us not return to circular arguments on this topic. There have been numerous discussions about the credibility of SOLT’s evidence and the fact finding panel that they used throughout this and all the other Fr. Corapi threads. Please read them!
 
No he was your regular next-door neighbour that you have over for a bbq on Saturday:rolleyes:

I don’t know what you’re trying to do or say, but perhaps you didn’t choose the best platform to express your peculiar views.
My issue is calling someone a “weird dude” without even knowing him.
 
None of us are lily pure and w/o that sin … except for Mary !!!
And once again, no one is claiming to be without sin here. We are discussing the facts that pertain to Fr. Corapi’s case. Please do inform yourself about what has been discussed on this thread, as well as the statements from SOLT, the Bishop of Corpus Christi, and Fr. Corapi himself.
 
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Allegations only ...
Why do you suppose SOLT posted them as facts, rather than allegations?
have you/I seen or will we ever be allowed to examine the evidence by SOLT ?:nope:
What makes any of us better qualified to establish the facts than the investigative team that was appointed for this purpose?

Where does canon law establish that allegations should be vetted by curious laypersons?
One thing is for sure, the former Protestant Pastor, turned Catholic Theologian Scott Hahn … will never put the Church thru such a sordid mess.
We don’t know this either, though I fervently pray you are right.

We cannot judge before the time.
Corapi grew up as Catholic, fell away, returned again, and now appears to have become a Cafeteria Catholic who wants to operate outside the Church :rolleyes:
It is not yet clear what he wants to do. What we know is what he has done, which is to disobey his superiors.
 
What ‘evidence’ do we know for fact ?

We need no evidence.
By law, we can trusr the decisions of his superior.

I agree ex-priest JC’s most recent video explanation is lame-o, but I do see valid points in his audio explanation for why he resigned w/o legal defense [that the Church investigation could well be unfair to him … and drag on forever].

He is a priest, not an ex-priest.
He is a priest who has been removed from public ministry.
He can not resign like the president of a bank or a postal worker or a rock star.
He is under the obligations of the holy priesthood.
To "resign, he must submit to authorities.


This ‘Black Sheepdog’ moniker is ridiculous … and seems quite infantile of him. Almost as if he invisions himself as the new-age internet star to the secular world, functioning apart from the Church.

But, what bothers me the most is the apparent lack of facts on this controversy. I would like to see ‘evidence’ to convict or exculpate him. But, its probably a ‘she said – he said’ matter at best, w/o hard evidence that we could make judgments about.
We do not need or have a right to “facts.”
We know exactly as much as we need to know - even more, in fact.
 
We know from the JC’s personal testimony about his adult drug/alcohol/sexual sins. Maybe a ‘prostitute’ from his past is bringing his past sins with her ‘forward in time’ into the last 20 years … to blackmail him for a payoff payday to her.

And, the sexting charge could also be contrived … and w/o his phone records, it could not be substantiated. Even, his phone records could not definatively prove it was he who texted. We all have been known to leave our phones on … and left on desktops while we are briefly out of rooms, etc. Anyone, esp. an old friend, [who perhaps works with us] could send out a bogus email off our fones to another person. We don’t sign our TM’s.
 
Allegations only …

have you/I seen or will we ever be allowed to examine the evidence by SOLT ?:nope:

One thing is for sure, the former Protestant Pastor, turned Catholic Theologian Scott Hahn … will never put the Church thru such a sordid mess.

Corapi grew up as Catholic, fell away, returned again, and now appears to have become a Cafeteria Catholic who wants to operate outside the Church :rolleyes:
Why do you imagine that YOU HAVE the right to examine evidence? :nope:
Are you central to this investigation in any way? :rolleyes:
 
We know from the JC’s personal testimony about his adult drug/alcohol/sexual sins. Maybe a ‘prostitute’ from his past is bringing his past sins with her ‘forward in time’ into the last 20 years … to blackmail him for a payoff payday to her.

And, the sexting charge could also be contrived … and w/o his phone records, it could not be substantiated. Even, his phone records could not definatively prove it was he who texted. **We all have been known to leave our phones on … and left on desktops while we are briefly out of rooms, etc. ** **Nope. I’ve never left my phone available on a desk! ** Anyone, esp. an old friend, [who perhaps works with us] could send out a bogus email off our fones to another person. We don’t sign our TM’s.
 
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Well, men are more trusting [or careless perhaps] … and it could very easily happen in the office or home setting.

Again, as JC says in his audiotape … he has been assumed “Guilty” by SOLT [and some of us here] … w/o benefit of presentation of the evidence & his crossexamination rights of the accuser.
 
Well, men are more trusting [or careless perhaps] … and it could very easily happen in the office or home setting.

Again, as JC says in his audiotape … he has been assumed “Guilty” by SOLT [and some of us here] … w/o benefit of presentation of the evidence & his crossexamination rights of the accuser.
There is a process in place for Church Law (Canon Law).
The process is much older than the laws of the USA.
Father C is aware of that - even if you pretend otherwise.

Only SOLT has the right of authority over him.
You don’t. I don’t. Father C knows that too.

As for “men are more trusting (or carelsss) …” -
astounding generalization! Really.

:eek:
 
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