French church attacked during Mass, priest murdered [CC]

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GEddie said:
Those are for the French Government, and the Vatican, respectively to decide.

May LORD have mercy on all involved.

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the allowing French citizens to carry guns for protection or declaring this priest a martyr?
 
Little did they know they were in more danger from the Airconditioning in the Church than they were ISIS
 
pepipop said:
Not sure if this has been mentioned, below:

If they have a database of these fanatics, round them all up and then deport them. The problem is that most of the perpetrators have been nationals of the countries involved. But some of these, I believe, were also known to the police as having sympathies with ISIS.
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If their sympathies are with ISIS, then they are traitors and subversives. Bye, bye!!!
 
Isca said:
This is Fr Hamel. May those who murdered him realise the sin they have committed.
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They have already stood before the judgment throne of Christ. They were killed by police. Their sins have been accounted and they are either in hell, or they are suffering incredibly in Purgatory.
 
All prayers for the martyred priest. But of course, didn’t our esteemed Secretary of State, John Kerry, just tell us that refrigerators and air conditioners are more dangerous than ISIS? So how could this have happened?
 
From what I hear from alot of people in Europe is that the situation in France, Germany, Belgium, Sweden, Spain, Italy, etc, is much worse than being reported. I regularly hear stories of parks, train stations, shopping areas being practically taken over by large groups of men from North and Sub Saharan Africa, and the Middle East, who aggressively panhandle and harass women. No Go Areas for Europeans are growing in major cities, and in areas of Sweden and Germany, refugee kids with big chips on there shoulders are making life miserable for the locals. Why isn’t mainstream media reporting it if it’s really true ? Well based on the fact that when an Islamic radical goes on a rampage they seem to try to come with any other explanation accept the truth, so I tend to believe that pattern also applies to other incidents as well.
 
God bless Fr Hamel, RIP, and the others that had to witness this. Diabolical!

*Islamist knifemen forced priest, 84, to kneel and filmed his death as they slit his throat: Hollande says ‘France is at war with ISIS’ after jihadists storm French church during Mass chanting ‘Allahu Akbar’

The ISIS knifemen who stormed into a church in Normandy filmed themselves butchering an elderly priest after forcing him to kneel before performing a ‘sermon in Arabic’ at the altar, a terrified witness has today.*

Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3708394/Two-men-armed-knives-people-hostage-French-church.html#ixzz4FWzmt7CV
 
Seamus_L said:
From what I hear from alot of people in Europe is that the situation in France, Germany, Belgium, Sweden, Spain, Italy, etc, is much worse than being reported. I regularly hear stories of parks, train stations, shopping areas being practically taken over by large groups of men from North and Sub Saharan Africa, and the Middle East, who aggressively panhandle and harass women. No Go Areas for Europeans are growing in major cities, and in areas of Sweden and Germany, refugee kids with big chips on there shoulders are making life miserable for the locals. Why isn’t mainstream media reporting it if it’s really true ? Well based on the fact that when an Islamic radical goes on a rampage they seem to try to come with any other explanation accept the truth, so I tend to believe that pattern also applies to other incidents as well.
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Which area of Germany and Sweden are you talking about? I have just returned from Stockholm, and spent 2 weeks in May travelling through Germany and saw no such sights. And both countries are much, much safer than the USA.
 
Holly3278 said:
This is so sad. I just wonder if this makes the priest a martyr or not.
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Until today, these types of martyrdoms have always felt like history from mostly far-away places. The killing of an elderly priest while he celebrates Mass sounds like stories in my children’s “Stories of the Saints” books.

:gopray: Eternal rest grant unto him, oh Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him. May his soul and the souls of all the faithful departed, through the mercy of God rest in peace. Amen.

While we pray for the repose of the soul of this priest, maybe instead we should be asking him to pray for us. I suppose it can’t hurt to do both: Fr. Jacques, pray for us!
 
So it’s even further sacrilege! This is not even an offense against men, it’s one against God (though murder also is, but this is more direct).

And democrats will say that they are “social justice warriors” and “innocent refugees” and that the “bad Christians” were doing something incorrectly.
 
there’s already a thread about this and the subject line of this threads to be in poor taste in trying to use sarcasm for such a horrible murder.
 
Malmo in Sweden has had alot of problems, particularly the Rosengard area, and the Husby section of Stockholm.
 
gardenswithkids said:
Until today, these types of martyrdoms have always felt like history from mostly far-away places. The killing of an elderly priest while he celebrates Mass sounds like stories in my children’s “Stories of the Saints” books.

:gopray: Eternal rest grant unto him, oh Lord, and let perpetual light shine upon him. May his soul and the souls of all the faithful departed, through the mercy of God rest in peace. Amen.

While we pray for the repose of the soul of this priest, maybe instead we should be asking him to pray for us. I suppose it can’t hurt to do both: Fr. Jacques, pray for us!
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I will offer mass today for the conversion of ISIS members. I’m having a hard time praying for the souls of the two ISIS killers. Need Grace.
 
queenofheartscv said:
What is daesh?
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It’s a pejorative term for the Islamic State that is used in the Middle East. It’s really the Arabic acronym for the Islamic State (similar to how people in the west use ISIL), but for some reason IS has declared it to be wrong and have threatened violent retribution (such as cutting out the tongue or even death) on anyone who uses the term Daesh. Which to my mind is reason enough to use it exclusively to refer to the Islamic State.

freewordcentre.com/explore/daesh-isis-media-alice-guthrie

And it has the added bonus of not being the name of plenty of poor women and girls around the world whose beautiful name Isis has been co-opted by people to refer to Daesh.
 
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