Friend getting an abortion on friday, need help ASAP!

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hands down, the BEST anti-abortion website I’ve ever come across:

www.abort73.com

very well-designed and uses facts/powerful images to convey the truth. please share this with her!

praying very hard for your friend and her child. :signofcross:
 
A friend took me home from work yesterday. This person has a heart of gold and has children of his own. What does it have to do with abortion?

My friend’s biological mother gave him up for adoption at birth. She could have aborted him, but she did the right thing and gave him to a couple who could give him a great life. He is a responsible citizen and has served his community well.

My friend has children who would have never been born if there had been an abortion. Lives would have been changed in ways no one can guess.

I thank God that the bio-mom gave life. I pray this same choice prevails with this unborn child.
 
Charlotte408 said:
ok so…i talked to her…sent her an email with all those links and numbers that you guys gave me…we’ll see…

shes crazy…i just cant even relate…and it hurts my heart so bad to think that she could even think about doing this…ooooh…whewwww…

she just got her degree…and wants to go for her BACH…and im like, you know, when i got pregnant, i didnt have ANYTHING…i was ESTACTIC when i got my own studio…

but her…shes already got one kid…shes got housing so she pays NADA for rent…she just got her degree…shoot girl shes got a 2 foot headstart already!! she can get a good job…finish up her BACH at her leisure…having a kid isnt going to ruin her life…

and as far as her having a kid by two different men i told her she shoulda thought about that when she had unprotected sex with two different men… but…you know…you’d think that’d be common sense…ugh…its just frustrating…i cant understand it…and i have to be honest if she does it i dont know if i can look at her the same way…

i told her what about other options??? what about adoption??

shes like, ‘oh no, i could never give my kid away’

WELL HECK girl you would rather KILL your child than have someone else raise it???

i dont understaaaand…

Lord grant me the serenity…

Grant me the serenity…

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So, telling her “I am here for you, I will support you emotionally in your pregnancy, I want to see your baby born” was too much for you, huh?

Why are you even posting here, Charlotte? You don’t sound like much of a friend to me.
 
Angels_Unaware said:
So, telling her “I am here for you, I will support you emotionally in your pregnancy, I want to see your baby born” was too much for you, huh?

Why are you even posting here, Charlotte? You don’t sound like much of a friend to me.
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oh no you didnt…looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed…

I did say all that to her, of course I did…dont be ridiculous…I opened up the convo with that from the get-go, first and foremost I’m her friend, I love her, and either way imma be there for her…

excuse me if I didnt copy and paste all the back and forth emails, or somehow record our conversations to validate my friendship…for you…who ever that is…http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd8/Smiley_Corner/RollingEyes.gif
 
Angels_Unaware said:
So, telling her “I am here for you, I will support you emotionally in your pregnancy, I want to see your baby born” was too much for you, huh?

Why are you even posting here, Charlotte? You don’t sound like much of a friend to me.
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Charlotte is venting to us, not giving us a play by play of her every word to her friend. I am sure she put things more gingerly when she was talking to her friend. Be charitable to Charlotte, she is frustrated because a LIFE hangs in the balance and she feels helpless. Let’s encourage her, she is battling evil itself (abortion) and does not need to be dragged down in judgement.

Charlotte, you sound like a great friend to me. Do not lose hope.
 
MercyMia said:
Charlotte is venting to us, not giving us a play by play of her every word to her friend. I am sure she put things more gingerly when she was talking to her friend.** Be charitable to Charlotte, she is frustrated because a LIFE hangs in the balance and she feels helpless. Let’s encourage her, she is battling evil itself (abortion) and does not need to be dragged down in judgement. **

Charlotte, you sound like a great friend to me. Do not lose hope.
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MIA!!! seriously…what it is, is…that, when your on the outside looking in, its so easy, to sit there and say, SAY what is the right thing to do…it seems so obvious…like, i’m over here beating my head against the wall…my heart hurts…i just dont know what to say, do…i’ve given her all the resources…PLEADED TO GOD in front of her…but …when its you, when your the one in the situation…its so much different…i know, cuz i’ve been in abusive relationships and my friends were like ‘HELLOOO’ lol…but when your caught up in whats going on, its harder…you know??

and i know thats where shes at right now…and i’m at the point, where all i CAN do is pray…its up the man above to get in her head…in her heart…

but i’ll tell you…i’ve always been pro-life…but…i’ve never been active about it before…kinda like how they say ‘cafeteria catholic’ i only really got upset when confronted with the idea or something like that…but now, that i have a friend, who first hand is going thru this…and…i KNOW her daughter she has already…so i could totally imagine her unborn child…and its like a KNIFE in my heart to think that it will never come to be…

this experience is TOTALLY igniting a fire under my @** man I swear I wanna protest, shout, rally, AHHHH!!! this is such a cold and heartless thing…
 
Aww Charlotte - This IS a spiritual battle, that is why it is so hard. Your poor friend is in danger of becoming a casuality and the other side is not going to let her go easily.

You mentioned protest… maybe YOU can be a one-woman protest. Show up at her house with photos of aborted babies. Be aggressive if you have to. Risk offending her. Nobody ever died from being offended, but many have died from being aborted. I know if sounds like you have probably tried all of these avenues.
Just curious, do you have a place open for adoration near you? Maybe you can spend a few hours this week in front of the blessed sacrament praying for this baby.

Praying hard for you and your friend.
 
You have to walk a VERY fine line. I was in your friend’s situation years ago when I was with my record label. The father was an executive who was running my record, and he didn’t want to tarnish my image. I didn’t want it either. I told my best friend at the time, and she went crazy with the baby pictures, guilt tripping, and telling me I’d go to Hell (what not to say to a 18 year old who is freaking out). I ended up having a miscarriage, but I never forgot the situation. It turned me off pro-lifers for ten years. If all pro-lifers were like my ex-friend, I don’t want any part of that.
My advice: pray, offer support, then move on. You might push her away.
 
MercyMia said:
Charlotte is venting to us, not giving us a play by play of her every word to her friend. I am sure she put things more gingerly when she was talking to her friend. Be charitable to Charlotte, she is frustrated because a LIFE hangs in the balance and she feels helpless. Let’s encourage her, she is battling evil itself (abortion) and does not need to be dragged down in judgement.

Charlotte, you sound like a great friend to me. Do not lose hope.
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I seriously doubt that.

Reading these posts, Charlotte is conveying an awful lot of judgement but not very much love or compassion for her friend.

And we are supposed to believe that all the love and acceptance is there in these emails we can’t see, and the judgement is ok here because she’s “venting”?

People can feel the difference between real acceptance and friendship and someone who is interested in their life for the gossip potential.
 
Angels_Unaware said:
I seriously doubt that.

Reading these posts, Charlotte is conveying an awful lot of judgement but not very much love or compassion for her friend.

And we are supposed to believe that all the love and acceptance is there in these emails we can’t see, and the judgement is ok here because she’s “venting”?

People can feel the difference between real acceptance and friendship and someone who is interested in their life for the gossip potential.
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Pretty much everything we post here on the family life board could be categorized as “gossip potential” if you really think about it. Yet, it is a place to vent and get a Catholic perspective. I don’t know why you have such a harsh perception of Charlotte…but I think we need to fortify her, not condemn her. She may be the ONLY chance this baby has. The issue at hand, the life of an unborn, is more important than a personal judgment on Charlotte’s tactics.

Did you read her original post? She specifically asked for resources and personal stories of members here. She did not just post a flippant, gossipy account of what was happening. She was reaching out for resources. Get it? We are not all trained to counsel others; she is doing the best she can as a friend in an unexpected situation. Maybe she will not handle this perfectly, but God will fill where she falls short.
 
MercyMia said:
Pretty much everything we post here on the family life board could be categorized as “gossip potential” if you really think about it. Yet, it is a place to vent and get a Catholic perspective. I don’t know why you have such a harsh perception of Charlotte…but I think we need to fortify her, not condemn her. She may be the ONLY chance this baby has. The issue at hand, the life of an unborn, is more important than a personal judgment on Charlotte’s tactics.

Did you read her original post? She specifically asked for resources and personal stories of members here. She did not just post a flippant, gossipy account of what was happening. She was reaching out for resources. Get it? We are not all trained to counsel others; she is doing the best she can as a friend in an unexpected situation. Maybe she will not handle this perfectly, but God will fill where she falls short.
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No, not everything on these forums is gossip by a long shot. I have read so many heartfelt, truly burdened posts from mothers or sisters or fathers or friends about difficult and painful life circumstances they find someone they love in, and the emotional tone is very, very different, than, “gee, wouldn’t you think she’d figure out how babies are made? :rolleyes:”, which is a summary of what I’d read from Charlotte.

Unfortunately, Charlotte IS the only hope her friend has, which is why I wish she would examine her tone and her real intent and motives when she talks about this with her friend and do her very best to truly convey to her friend that she can count on Charlotte to be there for her, and that Charlotte loves her and the babies, and is not just interested in controlling her behavior or judging her.
 
ok, I’ve seen this on too many threads here. There is one poster who is determined to argue. My advice is to ignore them, they will go away when there is no one to argue with. Sorry Angels, but I really feel you are simply invested in arguing. There has to be something better to do today.
 
Monica37 said:
ok, I’ve seen this on too many threads here. There is one poster who is determined to argue. My advice is to ignore them, they will go away when there is no one to argue with. Sorry Angels, but I really feel you are simply invested in arguing. There has to be something better to do today.
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No, Monica. I am not “invested in arguing”. But you, perhaps, are invested in remaining blind.

It is very difficult to miss the sense of gossip and judgement as opposed to love and friendship in this thread.
 
Wow Angels Unaware, Who pissed in your cheerios? A sister came here asking for help and you arrogantly turned it on her. That is not what Christ would do. BACK OFF! Your being the uncharitable one.

AS brothers and sisters in Christ we do not treat each other that way. Treat her with more respect as your Sister in Christ deserves much more then what your giving her. We have 3 more days till friday how is what your saying or doing Helping. IT is not. So just back off. You can go pray, do what you want to do about this, but dont post on here, about this topic, if you can’t keep it on the topic of her friend having an abortion. This is not about Charlotte, it is about her friend. So stop turning it on her and get back on the topic.

Charlotte, Any news?

And when it comes to gossip, IF a life is on the line. Nothing is passed the line.

In the Words of Sara on the new Rambo movie “Risking your life, to save is another, is not a risk at all”

We risk our Souls by even talking about this here. Because to be honest it is Gossip. But to save the life of that child, it is all worth it. I would rather stand before my God and say I gossiped and tried to save a life and hear judgment on that, Then to stand before him and tell him i was silent and a child died.
 
I’m sure Charlotte conversed with her friend in a perfectly charitable way. What she’s doing here is venting and letting her own feelings about the situation out, and heck who can blame her. Frankly I think her friend needs and honest dose of reality, what she’s doing is wrong, and selfish and tragic.

Charlotte I truly hope your friend changes her mind. You can only say so much, but try to keep the conversation going. Sometimes talking through things helps to see that there can be a better end result than what you envision.

how about fasting and saying some Rosaries for her too maybe?
 
shannyk said:
I’m sure Charlotte conversed with her friend in a perfectly charitable way. What she’s doing here is venting and letting her own feelings about the situation out, and heck who can blame her. Frankly I think her friend needs and honest dose of reality, what she’s doing is wrong, and selfish and tragic.

Charlotte I truly hope your friend changes her mind. You can only say so much, but try to keep the conversation going. Sometimes talking through things helps to see that there can be a better end result than what you envision.

**how about fasting and saying some Rosaries for her too maybe?/**COLOR]

last night i hit the rosary pretty hard for her…fasting i think is a good idea…i hadnt thought of that…

yeah, i started this thread to get her some resources…and, if you scroll up, some people sent me some pretty good stuff…that abort73.com website was crazy…

now, its the waiting game, just praying, hoping…PRAYING…i’m not trying to ‘gossip’…last nite i just posted to let you guys know, where its at…i have no idea what shes thinking after last night and our last convo…but…yeah…we’ll see…:gopray2:
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Gah…Charlotte, I just wanted to encourage you to IGNORE Angels Unaware’s posts. Looks to me like she’s the one spending lots of energy on trying to find someone to look down upon and judge.

Angels, do you think you sound compassionate or loving?

Do ya 'member that whole beam and speck thing?

I hope you can change your friend’s mind, Charlotte.
 
soooo…i know, its a total appeal to the emotion…but i dont care…lol…im totally using any tactic i can to get in her brain!! i just know shes gonna regret it…i know it…

so anyways i found these poems…and they were sooo good i thought i’d share with you guys as well…

STORY OF AN UNBORN CHILD…

Month 1:
Mommy,
I am only 8 inches long,
but I have all my organs…
I love the sound of your voice…
every time I hear it,
I wave my arms and legs…
The sound of your heartbeat is my favorite lullaby~

Month 2:
Mommy! today I learned how to suck my thumb!
If you could see me,
you could definitely tell that I am a baby now!
I’m still not big enough to live outside my home though…I need you so much.
Its so nice and warm here…

Month 3:
You know what Mommy!! I’m a GIRL!!
I hope that makes you happy!
I always want you to be happy…
I dont like it when you cry…
You sound so sad,
and it makes me sad too…
and I cry with you even though you cant hear me…

Month 4:
Mommy, my hair is starting to grow…
It is very short and fine,
but I will have a lot of it…
I spend a lot of time exercising
I can turn my head…and curl my fingers and toes…
and stretch my arms and legs…
I am becoming quite good at it too 😃

Month 5:
You went to the doctor today…
Mommy…he lied to you???
He said I’m not a baby?!??
I am a baby…I’m your baby??
I think and feel…

Month 6:
I can hear that doctor again.
I dont like him…
He seems cold and heartless…
Something is intruding my home!!
The doctor calls it a ‘needle’…
MOMMY!! WHAT IS IT??? IT BURNS!!
PLEASE make him STOP!!!
I cant get away from it! MOMMY!!
HELP ME…

Month 7:
Mommy, I’m okay…
I’m in Jesus’ arms,
He is holding me…
He told me about the abortion…
Why didnt you want me Mommy???

Every abortion is just…
one more heart that was stopped from loving…
two more eyes that will never see…
two more hands that will never touch…
two more legs that will never run…
one more mouth that will never speak…
and one more precious and innocent life that has been taken away…
 
ABORTION, an unborn childs POV…

Mommy please help me theyre tearing me apart…
hurry mommy soon they’ll take my heart…
I guess that soon I am going to die
so i will spend my time left saying goodbye
goodbye to the things i will never see
the birds, the grass, the pretty trees
i’ll never have the chance to see what everyone can
i’ll never even learn to stand
i’ll never crawl, i’ll never walk
i’ll never get the chance to talk
i’ll never smile
i’ll never cry
i’ll only be 12 weeks old, when i die
i’ll never get to have a sister or brother
or officially meet my father and mother
i wont get to learn about God by going to church
im going to die soon and oh how much this hurts
i cant stand it momma feeling this pain…
if i was alive in the real world i’d be going insane
but i will never have the chance to live my life
or grow up to have kids and a wife
i wont get to go to school to learn
or see a campfire burn
i’ll never hear a single sound from earth’
i wont even live until my birth
good bye momma theyve just about reached my heart
the rest of my body has been torn apart
you know im sure if you met me you’d want me to live
my life your taking away when it was yours to give
dont worry momma i forgive you even though im just about dead
i just wish you’d let me live instead
goodbye momma despite it all i love you
i only wished you loved me as much too…
 
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