Frustrated with a situation dealing with molestor

[deb1]

Nor is anyone suggesting that you trust him to be alone with a child-just don’t treat him as if he had the plague as some on this thread have advocted.

Because I have children, I HAVE to treat him like he has the plague. I can not be around him. That doesn’t mean that I advocate harming him in any way though.

 

[Lorik]

Because I have children, I HAVE to treat him like he has the plague. I can not be around him. That doesn’t mean that I advocate harming him in any way though.

You need to do whatever you think is best for your kids and I’ll do whatever I feel is best for mine. If that means not going to the party then by all means don’t go.
My main point of conflict is with those on this thread who wish to treat him as if he is less than human. Those who wouldn’t even speak to him and would like to see him get the death penalty. I would like to remind those who wouldn’t mind seeing the guy get the death penalty that the biggest reason why the Church is anti-capital punishment is that it robs the offender of their God given privilege to repent.

 

[Rob_s_Wife]

[the law] deals with the what is not and what is legally permissable and it is not legally permissable to imprison somone for the entire natural life.

I’m aware of what a life sentence is and yes, actually it is legally permissible in the United States. Hence the reason some offenses will get multiple life sentences - then intent behind such a sentence is to imprison them for their entire natural life.

Your country allows the death penalty, most countries do not allow the death penalty and my country is one of them, this is a continuation of the legal standpoint that no-one is legally allowed to take another person’s life be it in freedom be it in execution.

We are not talking about one person. I was talking from a legal perspective of removing his freedom by sending him to jail for a life sentence. And yes, if he was convicted of this for more than one girl, he should get more than one life sentence.

it is a known fact that institutionalisation does lead to further crime and criminalisation of the offender.

Agreed. Which is why prison should be for serious crimes only.

But if children are to be protected in the future it does no good to say ‘string them up or drive them outta town’.
**I completely disagree. Again there’s at least 2 other options. Life or death penalty. The only reason I’m not for death, is because of the possible error against an innocent. But my heavens if this guy has the moxy to be admiting it and blaming the 11 year old!? **

Yes I did post that. I also said I was NOT for doing anything to this man and NOT for any kind of vigilante acts. So, no I did NOT say we should kill him. I posted that if this man were to be convicted and given a death sentence - I would not think it an unjust sentence.

However we are not irrational, we can and do take steps to make sure our kids are as safe as possibly they can be.

No, you don’t. The safest thing possible would be for that man to not be on the streets.

If I was in the USA and knew of this situation I’d be on the phone now to the cops.
Bully for you, but it would do you a blessed bit of good in my state. Best case, the cop would have a talk the neighbors. But there’s nothing illegal in my state about the scenario as presented here.

Because I have children, I HAVE to treat him like he has the plague. I can not be around him. That doesn’t mean that I advocate harming him in any way though.

**I completely agree and that’s what I’ve posted numerous times!!:banghead: **

My main point of conflict is with those on this thread who wish to treat him as if he is less than human. Those who wouldn’t even speak to him

Oh for crying out loud THAT is less than human treatment? No I wouldn’t speak to him. I wouldn’t want ANYTHING to do with him.

the Church is anti-capital punishment is that it robs the offender of their God given privilege to repent.

Actually the Church is NOT anti-capital punishment, although many pirest would like to convince you otherwise. If it is in the best safety of society as a whole, the CCC allows it.

(2266)
Preserving the common good of society requires rendering the aggressor unable to inflict harm. For this reason the traditional teaching of the Church has acknowledged as well-founded the right and duty of legitimate public authority to punish malfactors by means of penalties commensurate with the gravity of the crime, not excluding, in cases of extreme gravity, the death penalty.

And it doesn’t rob the offender of repenting. Although it may hasten when he feels the need to do it!
And the main reason most are against death penalty laws (including me) is because of the risk of sentencing the wrong person!

All that said, I’ll say yet again my three main points:
- that I am NOT for doing anything to this man outside of the law
- I think the prison sentence should have been at least 1 life sentence, but it wasn’t. Such is life. It isn’t always fair.
- I would have NOTHING to do with him.

 

[Lorik]

Yes, it is less than human treatment. If you would speak to a dog rather than this human, in my eyes it is.
I fail to understand why you wouldn’t even speak to him.
The U.S. has adequate means of protecting society w/o the death penalty. We have no right to hasten God.

 

[nurseryworker]

Your first responsibility is to protect your daughter from harm. I think you are doing the correct thing by keeping her out of his sight. Feelings of sexual attraction towards children aren’t fixed by a prison sentence. You and your husband are spot on to put your daughter’s safety first.

NW

 

[Rob_s_Wife]

I fail to understand why you wouldn’t even speak to him.

**Well the failure goes both way. For the life of me, I can’t understand why anyone would ever want to even speak to such a man as that. **

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The U.S. has adequate means of protecting society w/o the death penalty.

Life in prison. If not for the first offense, then absolutely for the second. It’s only the first or second time they got caught, not the 1st or 2nd time they’ve ever done it, which would be bad enough.

 

[blessedstar]

Well Rob’s Wife

We are just going to have to agree to disagree. You are free to think the way you do and I am free to think the way I do and I guess that’s where we’ll have to leave it. I can’t justify in my conscience treating human beings anything less than human whatever sins they may have committed.

In the Living Prayer of my life

 

[Lorik]

Rob_s_Wife:
I guess because I know how lonley of a place it is to be, when being outside the grace of God. I never would have made it back to Our Lord had the Christians around me failed to be Christ to me.