How is anything you just said objective? It sounds very subjective to me. You boil the human condition down to nothing more than sex and procreation, which is a rather bleak view of humanity, in my opinion. By this definition, then priestly and monastic celibacy would also be disordered, because in choosing to not form sexual unions and procreate, those who are celibate are deliberately going against the norm for a health human being.
If you take a basic biology class, you can see how male and female sexual parts are complementary. When in use, they work together. That is what mating it. Mating is not the only element of the human condition but it is one that has a built in design. To try to mate in a manner that works against this design is what makes homosexual activity disordered.
Other than the authority of Jesus Christ, the very God of Heaven, exercised by the Magisterium of the Church He founded for that purpose.
Wait, hold up. You’re trying to tell me that it’s perfectly okay for Catholics to believe you can punish someone for doing something that “displays a same-sex relationship.” Maybe it’s a “faithful Catholic opinion” (doubt that), but it’s a STUPID ONE. No ifs or buts.
What I am saying is that Putin is reputed as being the richest man in Europe. Government in Russia has become a criminal organization where government officials are bribed by people in order to get oil contracts, and then go on to buy oil at the much cheaper domestic price in order to sell it at the much higher world oil price.
The sexual values that have skewed what is considered acceptable behavior in the West since the 1970’s are not worth being followed by the rest of the world. Sex and drugs culture of personal fulfillment is the road to hell. It is pathetic to the point of being contemptible that we are now being schooled by Islam and the Russian thugocracy of the minimal etiquette required of us when we come as guests to their homes.
Excellent post. It hurts no one to just follow the local laws. If an individual is going to be involved with international sporting competitions, it should be common knowledge that different countries have different laws and as guests, the athletes are expected to follow them.
Stop. It’s one thing to say “make sure you take off your shoes when you enter someone’s home” or “don’t say no directly because it’s considered rude.” It’s another thing completely to say “don’t hold hands with someone of the same gender because you’ll be imprisoned.”
The Olympics are an event that are meant to foster unity, civil responsibility, human rights, and international diplomacy. Part of our responsibility as a member of the global community is to encourage free speech, human rights, and the proper treatment of our fellow human beings. We should make our objections to the stifling of free speech well known. The last time we chose to participate in Olympic Games hosted by a country that mistreated an entire class of people based on an ideology of hatred, things didn’t turn out to great. We participated in those Olympic Games, and told our Jewish Olympians to refrain from causing waves, and told them to respect the laws of a country with different beliefs. I’m not suggesting that we are on the verge of a new holocaust, but the similarities in the events of these games and the 1936 Olympics are astounding, except even Hitler had enough sense to explicitly order that no foreign visitors be arrested or prosecuted for their anti-homosexuality laws.
I haven’t read a better post. :clapping:There are hundreds just in this thread.
I didn’t read this entire thread because I simply don’t have the time.
Either way, I’m just giving credit where credit is due.Yes. That is perfectly ok. In fact, it’s ok for a Catholic to support punishing ANY sinful behavior.
Believe it or not, you just made my case. When two brothers exchange hugs or kisses, it’s to demonstrate familial affection, not homosexuality. It’s not the hug or kiss or hand-holding that is wrong; it’s the relationship that it is demonstrating that may be immoral.
People like me? There is nothing sinful about raising a child alone. There is something sinful about demonstrating homosexual attraction in public.
Yes, and all other things being equal, that’s the ideal.
Of course, being raised by bigots would be bad for a child. I have never personally encountered a person with homophobia but, if I did, his/her suitability to parent should be scrutinized in the same manner as any other disorder, including homosexuality.
Are you trying to paraphrase me? If so, you are not accurately reflecting anything I said. A more accurate paraphrase would be “If you suffer from the disorder of homosexuality, and chose to indulge in immoral behavior related to that disorder, at least don’t do it in public.”
But no one, including the Russians, have advocated for that. Your argument is a red herring
This is just silly. Lots of convenience stores have signs saying “no shirt, no shoes, no service”. For males in this society, there’s nothing wrong with not having a shirt on. It’s not illegal or otherwise forbidden to go barefoot. And yet, we recognize that those stores have a right to exclude people who do not follow the rules they establish in their own domains. In Russia, evidently, they don’t want public displays of homosexuality. Not hard to obey that. It’s only a big deal because homosexuals and those who favor homosexuality want to force Russians and all people to accept homosexual displays in their country. We don’t see the left crying for a worldwide boycott of travel to Saudi Arabia because you can’t carry a beer on the street there. It’s only because the homosexual activists and their leftist supporters demand worldwide acceptance of homosexual displays that we see it in their case.
Interesting points. Here is how I look at it: Russia is having a demographics problem where there’s not enough people being born to replace people dying, moving away, etc. Russia has a right to establish laws against abortion, contraception, gay “marriage,” etc. especially in the face of it’s problem.
I see you’ve been reading up on what goes on at the “Olympic Village”.
Goodwins Law
Applies in the vast majority of discussions, until the similarities are so close to identical that it is reasonable to make the comparison.
Thank you, yes. Nobody has any phobia. Disagreement is not fear or hatred. It’s disagreement. This is the most ridiculous word that has ever been dreamed up and it’s PR, not reality.
Actually, I haven’t. But I think I get your point.
